Djokovic and Rafa need to thank Federer for setting lofty goals

ND-13

Hall of Fame
As a Novak and Rafa admirer , I have no illusions that Novak and Rafa achieved whatever they did and the player they became is not their sheer talent alone but in large part due to Federer

If Federer did not show them the path , they would have probably achieved half as much as what they did

Federer unfortunately did not have the same luck. He had surpassed all his targets more than 9 years ago and left with no targets to reach.

Thus comparing absolute slam counts and other records are meaningless when a player is setting targets and another is trying hard to reach them .

Thanks to Fed for producing 2 ATG !!
 
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Doctor/Lawyer Red Devil

Talk Tennis Guru
I am left with no targets to reach so I will just keep winning more Slams, see where that takes my unlucky soul...

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Sasuke

New User
lol - they all pushed each other to greater heights that they would have reached on their own. If Rafa & Djoker were good but not great Fed would have probably hit 16 slams and retired comfortably in 2010.

The OP has a point. But what you wrote is also true :D

Oh, btw.. interesting that RF-18 has an admirer in ND-13 :cool:
 

ND-13

Hall of Fame
lol - they all pushed each other to greater heights that they would have reached on their own. If Rafa & Djoker were good but not great Fed would have probably hit 16 slams and retired comfortably in 2010.

Let us be fair .

Roger , like Usain Bolt, set a 100m WR @9:58

If Djokovic and Rafa are steadily climbing up from 11.0 secs to 10.5 to 10 now, does it help Fed ?

Fed is looking at himself to see whether he can do a 9.4 now
 

Plamen1234

Hall of Fame
Fed has more than one Goalpost:
1. To win a slam 10 times
2. Is to have a positive h2h against Rafa and Djoker.
3. To be good on clay
4. To be better on h/c than Djoko
5. To win as many M1000s as Rafa and Djoker

He is good on clay and better on HC than Djokovic.So only 3 goalpost remain.The first one could happen if he wins Wimbledon this year.The last one is not important and the second one could happen but unfortunately Djokovic dont want to meet him
 
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Deleted member 756486

Guest
Fed has more than one Goalpost:
1. To win a slam 10 times
2. Is to have a positive h2h against Rafa and Djoker.
3. To be good on clay
4. To be better on h/c than Djoko
5. To win as many M1000s as Rafa and Djoker
He is good on clay and he’s better on HC than Djokovic.

Only Zverev fans care about M1000s. :D:D
 

zagor

Bionic Poster
As a Novak and Rafa admirer , I have no illusions that Novak and Rafa achieved whatever they did and the player they became is not their sheer talent alone but in large part due to Federer

If Federer did not show them the path , they would have probably achieved half as much as what they did

Federer unfortunately did not have the same luck. He had surpassed all his targets more than 9 years ago and left with no targets to reach.

Thus comparing absolute slam counts and other records are meaningless when a player is setting targets and another is trying hard to reach them .

Thanks to Fed for producing 2 ATG !!

Thank you for bringing much needed balance to the forum, new user.
 

SLD76

G.O.A.T.
Wake me when
Rafa has 5 or more titles at 9 different tournaments across two surfaces


Hell, wake me when he has a WTF title


Federer was stopped on clay more often than not by Nadal


Meanwhile Nadal has never played Fed at USO
 

clayqueen

Talk Tennis Guru
Never seen a more unfulfilled bunch of fans as Federer's fans. They claim that he is the ultimate but deep down they don't believe it so they spend sleepless nights thinking of their strategy to rubbish his opponents. I really feel for them. Rafa fans are so content.
 

Clay lover

Legend
What???? If they're as motivated by Federer as you claim why haven't they surpassed Federer? How is it not fair to Federer if as the motivator he is still ahead in slam count?
 

clayqueen

Talk Tennis Guru
Federer was stopped on clay more often than not by Nadal



It's a myth that many people blindly believe without checking the facts. Federer has lost to more people on clay that you could count on both hands. At RG alone, aside from the 5 times he's lost to Nadal, he has lost to:


1999 Rnd 1- Rafter
2000 Rnd 4 - Corretja
2001 QF - Corretja
2002 - Rnd 1 Arazi
2003 - Rnd 1 - Horna
2004 - Rnd 3 - Kuerten
2010 - QF Soderling
2012 - SF - Djokovic
2013 - QF Tsonga
2014 - Rnd 4 - Gulbis
2015 - QF - Wawrinka
 
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SLD76

G.O.A.T.
This is fake. It's a myth that many people blindly believe without checking the facts. Federer has lost to more people on clay that you could count on both hands. At RG alone, he has lost to:


1999 Rnd 1- Rafter
2000 Rnd 4 - Corretja
2001 QF - Corretja
2002 - Rnd 1 Arazi
2003 - Rnd 1 - Horna
2004 - Rnd 3 - Kuerten
2008 - QF Soderling
2012 - SF - Djokovic
2013 - QF Tsonga
2014 - Rnd 4 - Gulbis
2015 - QF - Wawrinka





Lmaooooo



So you gonna cherry pick the very start of his career and the latter stages of it




Shameless :D :D :D
 
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Deleted member 756486

Guest
This is fake. It's a myth that many people blindly believe without checking the facts. Federer has lost to more people on clay that you could count on both hands. At RG alone, he has lost to:


1999 Rnd 1- Rafter
2000 Rnd 4 - Corretja
2001 QF - Corretja
2002 - Rnd 1 Arazi
2003 - Rnd 1 - Horna
2004 - Rnd 3 - Kuerten
2008 - QF Soderling
2012 - SF - Djokovic
2013 - QF Tsonga
2014 - Rnd 4 - Gulbis
2015 - QF - Wawrinka

Fed made it to the final in 2008.

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Jonas78

Legend
I am not tortured by Rafa's losses like Fedfans are in denial about his dismal record at RG.
Im perfectly fine with the fact that the only one who could beat Roger on clay In his best years was Rafa. Roger would have 5-6 FO's if not for the King of Clay. Nothing else to expect really; Federer played the best clay-player to ever live In Rafas peak years on Feds worst surface.
 

Tennisgods

Hall of Fame
Never seen a more unfulfilled bunch of fans as Federer's fans. They claim that he is the ultimate but deep down they don't believe it so they spend sleepless nights thinking of their strategy to rubbish his opponents. I really feel for them. Rafa fans are so content.

If you’re so content, why do you always poke at Fed fans?

I actually like Rafa. It’s you I find insufferable.
 

clayqueen

Talk Tennis Guru
Im perfectly fine with the fact that the only one who could beat Roger on clay In his best years was Rafa. Roger would have 5-6 FO's if not for the King of Clay. Nothing else to expect really; Federer played the best clay-player to ever live In Rafas peak years on Feds worst surface.
Shakes head.
 

Zhilady

Professional
Fed has more than one Goalpost:
1. To win a slam 10 times
2. Is to have a positive h2h against Rafa and Djoker.
3. To be good on clay
4. To be better on h/c than Djoko
5. To win as many M1000s as Rafa and Djoker
Nadal has bigger goalposts:

1. To win 20 Slams
2. To have a positive H2H against Djokovic and Davydenko
3. To be good on grass
4. To be better on hardcourts than Federer AND Djokovic
5. To win as many WTF titles as Nalbandian and Davydenko.
 

cc0509

Talk Tennis Guru
Never seen a more unfulfilled bunch of fans as Federer's fans. They claim that he is the ultimate but deep down they don't believe it so they spend sleepless nights thinking of their strategy to rubbish his opponents. I really feel for them. Rafa fans are so content.

Oh, stop your complete tripe. It's way beyond nauseating already.

Why on earth would a Federer fan be unfulfilled or losing sleep? He's the most accomplished player of all time. YOU are the one in denial. YOU are the delusional one. You are some beyond middle-aged woman obsessed with a tennis player who could be your son and you're preoccupied with trying to prove Federer is a piece of garbage who doesn't deserve to be in the same room as Nadal. Don't you comprehend how wrong and more importantly, how sad that is? :oops:

In all seriousness, Federer, Nadal, and Djokovic are all great players for different reasons. Can't you live with that?
 

True Fanerer

G.O.A.T.


It's a myth that many people blindly believe without checking the facts. Federer has lost to more people on clay that you could count on both hands. At RG alone, he has lost to:


1999 Rnd 1- Rafter
2000 Rnd 4 - Corretja
2001 QF - Corretja
2002 - Rnd 1 Arazi
2003 - Rnd 1 - Horna
2004 - Rnd 3 - Kuerten
2010 - QF Soderling
2012 - SF - Djokovic
2013 - QF Tsonga
2014 - Rnd 4 - Gulbis
2015 - QF - Wawrinka
Nadal's list on HC and grass.

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kevaninho

Hall of Fame


It's a myth that many people blindly believe without checking the facts. Federer has lost to more people on clay that you could count on both hands. At RG alone, he has lost to:


1999 Rnd 1- Rafter
2000 Rnd 4 - Corretja
2001 QF - Corretja
2002 - Rnd 1 Arazi
2003 - Rnd 1 - Horna
2004 - Rnd 3 - Kuerten
2010 - QF Soderling
2012 - SF - Djokovic
2013 - QF Tsonga
2014 - Rnd 4 - Gulbis
2015 - QF - Wawrinka

Yep its funny how all Fed fans say he would've had 5 FO if not for Nadal LOL :rolleyes::rolleyes:
 
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