Djokovic breathing problems?

Kenny022593

Professional
Does he just get these at The French, or is it just all the time? During the Dent match it looked like he was having a hard time breathing, but that just might be what he looks like normally as I do not watch him enough to know.
 

Rockitdog

Banned
He's not known to be the fittest guy on tour. His conditioning has been a constant issue- not sure why his team hasn't made this a priority when it comes to his training.
 

Chadwixx

Banned
He has asthma and the atp wont allow him to take the medicine because they classify it as a steroid. The same thing they busted puerta for.

Oddly enough agassi taking 15 cortizone shots at the us open is legal.
 

pmerk34

Legend
He's not known to be the fittest guy on tour. His conditioning has been a constant issue- not sure why his team hasn't made this a priority when it comes to his training.
HE has a congenital breathing problem and had nasal surgery to try and correct it. The guy is about nothing % bodyfat.
 

Kenny022593

Professional
He has asthma and the atp wont allow him to take the medicine because they classify it as a steroid. The same thing they busted puerta for.

Oddly enough agassi taking 15 cortizone shots at the us open is legal.
Jeez, I wish i got into Tennis earlier than 2007... Maybe I should just read about the past more.

HE has a congenital breathing problem and had nasal surgery to try and correct it. The guy is about nothing % bodyfat.
Yeah, but fit could mean many things. For instance, he may have almost no body fat, but he retired due to heat a few times. It was probably a smart move with the on court temperatures blazing over 100 but still, fit can mean being able to withstand those conditions better than the next guy.

He had surgery though? When?
 

mikeler

Moderator
^ When he retired at the Australian Open to Roddick, he decided to train in Serbia. Winter conditions in Serbia certainly do not equal summer conditions in Melbourne. He probably was not acclimated to the heat yet.
 

TimHenmanATG

Hall of Fame
I've never been able to find any source which confirms this, but about 10 years ago, I distinctly remember hearing a commentator mentioning that Novak had some kind of a corrective operation on his sinus because he had a condition which constricted the airway through his nose.

It might have been one of those "half-truths" which commentators unintentionally further, but he did start to take those really deep nasal inhalations around this time.
 

Aabye5

Hall of Fame
I've never been able to find any source which confirms this, but about 10 years ago, I distinctly remember hearing a commentator mentioning that Novak had some kind of a corrective operation on his sinus because he had a condition which constricted the airway through his nose.

It might have been one of those "half-truths" which commentators unintentionally further, but he did start to take those really deep nasal inhalations around this time.
Source, although like you said, it could a half-truth unintentionally repeated:

 

RelentlessAttack

Hall of Fame
I've never been able to find any source which confirms this, but about 10 years ago, I distinctly remember hearing a commentator mentioning that Novak had some kind of a corrective operation on his sinus because he had a condition which constricted the airway through his nose.

It might have been one of those "half-truths" which commentators unintentionally further, but he did start to take those really deep nasal inhalations around this time.
Simple deviated septum procedure if I recall right but I think that was earlier like for his 07 breakthrough.

After 2010 the only thing was the gluten free diet. Which recall he states explicitly that he doesn’t have celiac disease and that he was diagnosed by touching bread by a doctor who made the preliminary guess by watching him on TV. Not a coherent explanation for suddenly becoming the fittest guy on tour by a long margin
 

weakera

G.O.A.T.
It amazes me that anyone with a brain thinks that going gluten free or having a sinus procedure can turn someone from a relatively inferior athlete in terms of stamina into the most fit athlete in the entire sport in terms of endurance, and possibly the world, at the age of 34.

People really see what they want to see.
 

mwym

Semi-Pro
People really see what they want to see.
Exactly what your post proves about your grasp without you being aware of the fact.

Djokovic surpassing both Federer and Nadal decreased total profit generated just like it caused members to leave TTW. For less than 1% of the loss they suffered - profit grabbing parasites would fabricate proofs about Djokovic doing anything illegal if there was any chance of it being remotely true or even just suspicious. And that would stop Djokovic before he causes 'their money' to vanish. And they had more than TEN years to do it. You should be able to ask hoe come they did not do it.

That is what you fail to grasp because people also do not see/grasp what they do not want to see/grasp..
 

weakera

G.O.A.T.
Exactly what your post proves about your grasp without you being aware of the fact.

Djokovic surpassing both Federer and Nadal decreased total profit generated just like it caused members to leave TTW. For less than 1% of the loss they suffered - profit grabbing parasites would fabricate proofs about Djokovic doing anything illegal if there was any chance of it being remotely true or even just suspicious. And that would stop Djokovic before he causes 'their money' to vanish. And they had more than TEN years to do it. You should be able to ask hoe come they did not do it.

That is what you fail to grasp because people also do not see/grasp what they do not want to see/grasp..

This post makes zero sense.
 

tex123

Professional
It amazes me that anyone with a brain thinks that going gluten free or having a sinus procedure can turn someone from a relatively inferior athlete in terms of stamina into the most fit athlete in the entire sport in terms of endurance, and possibly the world, at the age of 34.

People really see what they want to see.
I'm no Djokovic fan and I don't know if going gluten free alone made him the athlete he's today.
However, normal people cannot even begin to imagine what it is like to suffer 24x7 from food intolerances. I'm the living proof. It is only when you give up the foods that cause inflammation you realise what normal life is.
For some people despite not being a celiac, gluten causes severe issues.
 

rUDin 21

Professional
It amazes me that anyone with a brain thinks that going gluten free or having a sinus procedure can turn someone from a relatively inferior athlete in terms of stamina into the most fit athlete in the entire sport in terms of endurance, and possibly the world, at the age of 34.

People really see what they want to see.
Oh, @weakera what became of you?
 

RelentlessAttack

Hall of Fame
I'm no Djokovic fan and I don't know if going gluten free alone made him the athlete he's today.
However, normal people cannot even begin to imagine what it is like to suffer 24x7 from food intolerances. I'm the living proof. It is only when you give up the foods that cause inflammation you realise what normal life is.
For some people despite not being a celiac, gluten causes severe issues.
Find us some quality studies showing anything close to the effect seen here - going from inferior fitness to possibly GOAT fitness in one off season. I’ll be waiting
 

tex123

Professional
Find us some quality studies showing anything close to the effect seen here - going from inferior fitness to possibly GOAT fitness in one off season. I’ll be waiting
I've already said I don't know if going gluten free solved his problems. Generally, you suffer for years not knowing what you have with a random array of symptoms. It happens slowly over years and abnormal becomes normal until you realise you can't take it anymore. I'm skeptical if gluten was his only problem if he has suffered for years. It causes inflammation and manifests into other problems i.e. there's a storm brewing.

Just as it takes years to develop this storm, it takes quite a bit of time to repair and heal. Gluten alone takes 3 months to leave your system.

You are asking for medical studies but when you suffer from chronic issues like this going from one doctor to another, an alternative medicine practitioner is most likely to treat you better. I have tremendous respect for doctors but these problems are not well understood by them.

I don't know when Djokovic gave up gluten and when his problems went away. All I said was don't dismiss his gluten sensitivities. I know because I've been there with multiple sensitivities.
 

Bubcay

Professional
Find us some quality studies showing anything close to the effect seen here - going from inferior fitness to possibly GOAT fitness in one off season. I’ll be waiting
I don't think it was just a change of diet, but also the fitness regime. Change of diet helped with his breathing problems.
 

Bartelby

Bionic Poster
Maybe the good old deviated septum issue?

I've never been able to find any source which confirms this, but about 10 years ago, I distinctly remember hearing a commentator mentioning that Novak had some kind of a corrective operation on his sinus because he had a condition which constricted the airway through his nose.

It might have been one of those "half-truths" which commentators unintentionally further, but he did start to take those really deep nasal inhalations around this time.
 

Bartelby

Bionic Poster
These are the "legends" that the Djokovic camp itself spreads for the most part to explain the transformation from sickly boy to adult powerhouse.

It amazes me that anyone with a brain thinks that going gluten free or having a sinus procedure can turn someone from a relatively inferior athlete in terms of stamina into the most fit athlete in the entire sport in terms of endurance, and possibly the world, at the age of 34.

People really see what they want to see.
 

RelentlessAttack

Hall of Fame
I've already said I don't know if going gluten free solved his problems. Generally, you suffer for years not knowing what you have with a random array of symptoms. It happens slowly over years and abnormal becomes normal until you realise you can't take it anymore. I'm skeptical if gluten was his only problem if he has suffered for years. It causes inflammation and manifests into other problems i.e. there's a storm brewing.

Just as it takes years to develop this storm, it takes quite a bit of time to repair and heal. Gluten alone takes 3 months to leave your system.

You are asking for medical studies but when you suffer from chronic issues like this going from one doctor to another, an alternative medicine practitioner is most likely to treat you better. I have tremendous respect for doctors but these problems are not well understood by them.

I don't know when Djokovic gave up gluten and when his problems went away. All I said was don't dismiss his gluten sensitivities. I know because I've been there with multiple sensitivities.
So long story short you admit that there’s no actual evidence for these claims. Alternative medicine is alternative for a reason, it’s not evidence based
 

tex123

Professional
So long story short you admit that there’s no actual evidence for these claims. Alternative medicine is alternative for a reason, it’s not evidence based
I'm not an alternative medicine practitioner and I'm not a doctor or a medical researcher either. There may be plenty. A patient suffering from debilitating symptoms like sensitivities is not looking for "evidence-based throw a drug" at the problem. He/she just wants to get to the root of the problem and get better. Mainstream medicine does not have answers to these problems. That's why I said normal people don't know what it is like to suffer 24x7 going from doctor to doctor and they tell you nothing can be done. Then you explore alternative medicine and you realise something can indeed be done (like in the case of Djokovic according to him). Alternative medicine practitioners exist for a reason - because mainstream has no answer.

I'm not here to win an argument. You can choose to believe what you believe. That's your choice.
 

RelentlessAttack

Hall of Fame
I'm not an alternative medicine practitioner and I'm not a doctor or a medical researcher either. There may be plenty. A patient suffering from debilitating symptoms like sensitivities is not looking for "evidence-based throw a drug" at the problem. He/she just wants to get to the root of the problem and get better. Mainstream medicine does not have answers to these problems. That's why I said normal people don't know what it is like to suffer 24x7 going from doctor to doctor and they tell you nothing can be done. Then you explore alternative medicine and you realise something can indeed be done (like in the case of Djokovic according to him). Alternative medicine practitioners exist for a reason - because mainstream has no answer.

I'm not here to win an argument. You can choose to believe what you believe. That's your choice.
I’ve seen lots of patients feel a little bit better by cutting out foods they’re intolerant to. A little more energy, a little less indigestion, a little better sleep. Nobody miraculously turns their biggest weakness into a GOAT level characteristic by cutting out gluten. I have a bridge to sell to anyone that believes that nonsense
 

-snake-

Hall of Fame
It amazes me that anyone with a brain thinks that going gluten free or having a sinus procedure can turn someone from a relatively inferior athlete in terms of stamina into the most fit athlete in the entire sport in terms of endurance, and possibly the world, at the age of 34.

People really see what they want to see.

So fit that he was a zombie after just one tough match :sneaky:
 

Raul_SJ

G.O.A.T.
It happened in the summer of 2010.

Dr. Cetojevic persuaded the tennis star to give up gluten by administering a simple test:

Dr Cetojevic told Djokovic to stretch out his right arm while placing his left hand on his stomach. The doctor then pushed down on Djokovic’s right arm and told him to resist the pressure. The strength Djokovic would feel in holding firm, the doctor said, was exactly what he should experience.

Next Cetojevic gave Djokovic a slice of bread. He told the bemused player not to eat it but to hold it against his stomach with his left hand while he again pushed down on his outstretched right arm. To Djokovic’s astonishment, the arm felt appreciably weaker.

It was what Cetojevic had expected. His crude test had been to discover whether Djokovic was sensitive to gluten, a protein found in wheat and other bread grains. Looking back, it was the moment when Djokovic discovered why he had suffered so many mid-match collapses in his career – and the starting point for a lifestyle change which led to his becoming world No 1 just 12 months later.

 

celito

Semi-Pro
It amazes me that anyone with a brain thinks that going gluten free or having a sinus procedure can turn someone from a relatively inferior athlete in terms of stamina into the most fit athlete in the entire sport in terms of endurance, and possibly the world, at the age of 34.

People really see what they want to see.
Diet
-Gluten free
-Blood doping rich
 

celito

Semi-Pro
It happened in the summer of 2010.

Dr. Cetojevic persuaded the tennis star to give up gluten by administering a simple test:

Dr Cetojevic told Djokovic to stretch out his right arm while placing his left hand on his stomach. The doctor then pushed down on Djokovic’s right arm and told him to resist the pressure. The strength Djokovic would feel in holding firm, the doctor said, was exactly what he should experience.

Next Cetojevic gave Djokovic a slice of bread. He told the bemused player not to eat it but to hold it against his stomach with his left hand while he again pushed down on his outstretched right arm. To Djokovic’s astonishment, the arm felt appreciably weaker.

It was what Cetojevic had expected. His crude test had been to discover whether Djokovic was sensitive to gluten, a protein found in wheat and other bread grains. Looking back, it was the moment when Djokovic discovered why he had suffered so many mid-match collapses in his career – and the starting point for a lifestyle change which led to his becoming world No 1 just 12 months later.

Who would have known he could still be eating bread if he was only wearing a power band ...
 
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