Djokovic Calendar Year Grand Slam: Can anyone stop him?

#1
It looks like he may get a calendar year grand slam some either this year or next year. If Wimbledon speeds up their grass courts again, then all bets are off, though.

  • Nadal and Federer in decline.
  • Younger players not breaking thru in grand slams yet.
  • Murray out.
  • Wawrinka playing at a much lower level since injury.
  • Nostrafedace's favorite Standford players still in school and not playing the tour fulltime yet.
IMO, he should not try to win or go deep at Rome and should instead work on stuff and get rest before the French Open. It looks like he has improved his ability to take the ball closer to the baseline on clay. This is going to make him really tough to beat in a best of 5 match.

If Wimbledon speeds up their grass courts again, then all bets are off, though.
 
#7
Only on TTW do people start threads about a possible CYGS when a player has won exactly 1/4 majors in a calendar year. When Djokovic gets to the semis of the USO while holding 3/4 slams, then talk about it. It's ridiculous to even mention it at this stage. There have been about 200 majors contested since the Open Era began and only one guy was able to do it. Djokovic's chances of doing it are thus statistically nil.
 
#9
Only on TTW do people start threads about a possible CYGS when a player has won exactly 1/4 majors in a calendar year. When Djokovic gets to the semis of the USO while holding 3/4 slams, then talk about it. It's ridiculous to even mention it at this stage. There have been about 200 majors contested since the Open Era began and only one guy was able to do it. Djokovic's chances of doing it are thus statistically nil.

His fans forget that there will be more Cecchinato in the way of Serbian.
it is unavoidable.
 
#10
If he did not achieve the CYGS before, I dont see him doing it now - but of course, with this abysmal tour, I wont be surprised if it happens
At the level he played in Madrid, and assuming he starts to "peak" at the right time. There is only one man that can stop him and that is Nadal at the French.

Of course a lot can happen with Djokovic's level of play so it's definitely not a given, but who other than Nadal at the French could beat him? This tour is in transition right now and I actually believe this is his best chance that he has ever had.
 
#11
If he did not achieve the CYGS before, I dont see him doing it now - but of course, with this abysmal tour, I wont be surprised if it happens
Why? He’s in one of the 3 best phases of his career right now with winning the last 3 Slams. You cannot take Indian Wells, Miami and Monte Carlo seriously. Madrid has shown that he’s back. And the huge factor "Nadal on clay" seems to be smaller this year, so the argument "If he didn’t before he won’t do it now" is invalid IMO.

That said, I don't think he will do it either, because I honestly believe Federer will win a Slam this year.
 
#13
Only on TTW do people start threads about a possible CYGS when a player has won exactly 1/4 majors in a calendar year. When Djokovic gets to the semis of the USO while holding 3/4 slams, then talk about it. It's ridiculous to even mention it at this stage. There have been about 200 majors contested since the Open Era began and only one guy was able to do it. Djokovic's chances of doing it are thus statistically nil.
Its definitely not inconceivable. Nadal is vulnerable on clay now, Next Gen is weak and Nole will be very very motivated for the CYGS if he wins RG.

Not that I want him to do it, I'd rather see Fed win everything or at least Thiem take RG.
 
#15
Only on TTW do people start threads about a possible CYGS when a player has won exactly 1/4 majors in a calendar year. When Djokovic gets to the semis of the USO while holding 3/4 slams, then talk about it. It's ridiculous to even mention it at this stage. There have been about 200 majors contested since the Open Era began and only one guy was able to do it. Djokovic's chances of doing it are thus statistically nil.
Statistically nil, but probabilistically VERY HIGH.

The only reason Fed wasn't able to complete the CYGS was because of Nadal, clay and French Open.
Remove that and Fed would have multiple CYGS. I'd say Fed was desperately unlucky to have to contend with a prime Nadal on clay.

Now that Nadal is NOT a factor, Novak will win the French. And if he does, there is NOT much stopping him at Wimbledon - as he is the best current grass player by a landslide. USOpen is harder, obviously, but history will beckon and he will get that too. There will be no stopping him when he is that close.

2019 will be a watershed year in Tennis history. The biggest achievement in Open Era tennis will happen, and it will put an end to all GOAT debates.
 
#16
Its definitely not inconceivable. Nadal is vulnerable on clay now, Next Gen is weak and Nole will be very very motivated for the CYGS if he wins RG.

Not that I want him to do it, I'd rather see Fed win everything or at least Thiem take RG.
Fed is Finish at least in a best of 5 sets, a.k.a, Grand Slams.
 
#17
Absolutely ridiculous, even for this forum. Just look at this:
“You cannot take Indian Wells, Miami and Monte Carlo seriously. Madrid has shown that he’s back.”

So you can’t take serious the fact he has lost in early stages of 3 tournaments, and looked completely off form in all the losses, but a tournament in which he had an easy run and probably should have lost to Thiem anyway is the sign he’ll win the CYGS?

Stay off the juice, kids, and come back to this end of August at the earliest.
 
#18
Statistically nil, but probabilistically VERY HIGH.

The only reason Fed wasn't able to complete the CYGS was because of Nadal, clay and French Open.
Remove that and Fed would have multiple CYGS. I'd say Fed was desperately unlucky to have to contend with a prime Nadal on clay.

Now that Nadal is NOT a factor, Novak will win the French. And if he does, there is NOT much stopping him at Wimbledon - as he is the best current grass player by a landslide. USOpen is harder, obviously, but history will beckon and he will get that too. There will be no stopping him when he is that close.

2019 will be a watershed year in Tennis history. The biggest achievement in Open Era tennis will happen, and it will put an end to all GOAT debates.
I agree - He will do it, and I hope he does.

I hate the "if not for Nadal at the French Federer would have 5 calendar slams." argument that gets thrown around and referenced - like it was 100% going to happen.

People also forget that Nadal has beaten Djokovic at the French more times than he's beaten Federer - a lot of those times just before he beat Federer in those finals. If you remove Nadal, Djokovic would get through to the final, and you'd have Federer vs Djokovic

There's no reason to think that Djokovic would absolutely lose a match to Federer, even if it was 2007 or 2008. Djokovic pushed Federer plenty of times and beaten him in finals and in slam semis back then, and was only getting better.

Yes - Federer could have won against Novak in a RG final, but he would have had to beat Novak on clay, which is not easy in 2008 or 2019
 
#20
It looks like he may get a calendar year grand slam some either this year or next year. If Wimbledon speeds up their grass courts again, then all bets are off, though.

  • Nadal and Federer in decline.
  • Younger players not breaking thru in grand slams yet.
  • Murray out.
  • Wawrinka playing at a much lower level since injury.
  • Nostrafedace's favorite Standford players still in school and not playing the tour fulltime yet.
IMO, he should not try to win or go deep at Rome and should instead work on stuff and get rest before the French Open. It looks like he has improved his ability to take the ball closer to the baseline on clay. This is going to make him really tough to beat in a best of 5 match.

If Wimbledon speeds up their grass courts again, then all bets are off, though.
He was more dominant in 2016, yet he only completed the first two of four (the closest he's ever been to the CYGS). He is less dominant now, and he'd only won AO so far. Ask this question again IF he wins RG and WB.
 
#21
Absolutely ridiculous, even for this forum. Just look at this:
“You cannot take Indian Wells, Miami and Monte Carlo seriously. Madrid has shown that he’s back.”

So you can’t take serious the fact he has lost in early stages of 3 tournaments, and looked completely off form in all the losses, but a tournament in which he had an easy run and probably should have lost to Thiem anyway is the sign he’ll win the CYGS?

Stay off the juice, kids, and come back to this end of August at the earliest.
Nothing is too ridiculous for this forum
 
#23
Statistically nil, but probabilistically VERY HIGH.

The only reason Fed wasn't able to complete the CYGS was because of Nadal, clay and French Open.
Remove that and Fed would have multiple CYGS. I'd say Fed was desperately unlucky to have to contend with a prime Nadal on clay.

Now that Nadal is NOT a factor, Novak will win the French. And if he does, there is NOT much stopping him at Wimbledon - as he is the best current grass player by a landslide. USOpen is harder, obviously, but history will beckon and he will get that too. There will be no stopping him when he is that close.

2019 will be a watershed year in Tennis history. The biggest achievement in Open Era tennis will happen, and it will put an end to all GOAT debates.
Would love to see how he would handle the pressure going into NY 3/3.

It would not end the debate though, since "He didn't have to compete with peak Rafa at RG" would be an objectively valid argument.
 
#24
Noone can. It is literally in the bag.

Why don't the tennis authorities acknowledge the accomplishment already?

Why are the fans of the other players still arguing over that?

Why are his little fans still going around making threads like crazy?

Why do we ever have to endure the ******* ****** again?

Why?

:cool:
 
#27
Well, to win the CYGS this year, Novak will have to win 42 consecutive major matches.
21 down, 21 to go. Yes, I'm counting.
If he eventually wins, I'm afraid it would be the end of CYGS as a tennis institution.
 
#30
It is too early for this. I'm not sure why the OP started this thread. Yeah, it's possible but it's going to be hard. It is the biggest challenge in tennis. Novak won one major this year, there are 3 more to go.

He could do it ... if he does it somehow ... I don't know we should give him a goat 8-B. How much does a goat cost nowadays in Monte Carlo :unsure:?
 
#32
At the level he played in Madrid, and assuming he starts to "peak" at the right time. There is only one man that can stop him and that is Nadal at the French.

Of course a lot can happen with Djokovic's level of play so it's definitely not a given, but who other than Nadal at the French could beat him? This tour is in transition right now and I actually believe this is his best chance that he has ever had.
He barely won against a below par Thiem, so I dont see this form going all the way at all. Thiem defeated him convincingly in the past and can do it again. Nadal is not the only one who can beat him. And to assume he will peak at the right time is another thing I am not sure

Why? He’s in one of the 3 best phases of his career right now with winning the last 3 Slams. You cannot take Indian Wells, Miami and Monte Carlo seriously. Madrid has shown that he’s back. And the huge factor "Nadal on clay" seems to be smaller this year, so the argument "If he didn’t before he won’t do it now" is invalid IMO.

That said, I don't think he will do it either, because I honestly believe Federer will win a Slam this year.
Yes, but this phase looks anything but unbeatable. I dont take IW, Miami and MC lightly, but at the same time I know Slams is what matter. And age is not a myth, specially in a surface that taxes your stamina, which for me is not at the top or even close to that. Honestly, I dont see Djokovic winning CYGS, heck I dont see him winning Roland Garros, but I know this Slam is really open this year so yes, he is one of the challengers there
 
#33
Well, to win the CYGS this year, Novak will have to win 42 consecutive major matches.
21 down, 21 to go. Yes, I'm counting.
If he eventually wins, I'm afraid it would be the end of CYGS as a tennis institution.
Exactly, he has to win next 21 matches on slams... That's hard, but... He won last 21 matches on slams, so... Not impossible...
That would put every tennis fan to sleep besides Mummekians.
No, it wouldn't put every tennis fan to sleep, It would put every "tennis fan" to sleep...
 
#34
Yes, but this phase looks anything but unbeatable. I dont take IW, Miami and MC lightly, but at the same time I know Slams is what matter. And age is not a myth, specially in a surface that taxes your stamina, which for me is not at the top or even close to that. Honestly, I dont see Djokovic winning CYGS, heck I dont see him winning Roland Garros, but I know this Slam is really open this year so yes, he is one of the challengers there
Age is not a myth, but I don’t think it will be a factor in the decision if Djokovic wins the CYGS this year. His last Slam results show that he isn’t too old right now and just 4 months from now the Slam season is over. Also he only becomes 32 in a few days, which really isn’t old in today’s sport.

I would rather say that Best of 5 is POSITIVE for him against someone like Thiem.
 
#36
The CYGS will still be way below 20% chance of occurring even if Djokovic already has RG. And RG is by no means secure already- in my eyes, he's still not the favorite. He's got at best a 30% chance of winning that.

At best:
RG 30% chance
WIM 35% chance
USO 30% chance.

That means a CYGS is still about 3% likely in my eyes. Plus, that's at best. He may lose his mentality like last time. He may lose early at USO because of sickness. He could lose the RG final to Nadal. He could lose in the Wimbledon final to Federer. There's plenty that could happen, but one thing's for sure.

His chances get much better if he wins RG.
 
#37
Age is not a myth, but I don’t think it will be a factor in the decision if Djokovic wins the CYGS this year. His last Slam results show that he isn’t too old right now and just 4 months from now the Slam season is over. Also he only becomes 32 in a few days, which really isn’t old in today’s sport.

I would rather say that Best of 5 is POSITIVE for him against someone like Thiem.
Best of 5 positive against Thiem, one of the fittest guys in the tour?
OK, nothing to discuss here...
 
#38
Best of 5 positive against Thiem, one of the fittest guys in the tour?
OK, nothing to discuss here...
One of the fittest guys on tour? He wants to be and seems to practice for hours and hours in the gym, but is he really? Remember he lost to Nadal in 5 after winning the 1st set 6-0. He also didn’t convert from a 2-0 lead against Del Potro in 2017 despite Del Potro being sick.

Also Djokovic himself is one of the fittest guys on tour (if not the fittest outright). You are extremely underrating him now because he is 32. You think this is already too old, but it is far from it in modern sports. He will outlast Thiem when it matters at RG.
 
#39
One of the fittest guys on tour? He wants to be and seems to practice for hours and hours in the gym, but is he really? Remember he lost to Nadal in 5 after winning the 1st set 6-0. He also didn’t convert from a 2-0 lead against Del Potro in 2017 despite Del Potro being sick.

Also Djokovic himself is one of the fittest guys on tour (if not the fittest outright). You are extremely underrating him now because he is 32. You think this is already too old, but it is far from it in modern sports. He will outlast Thiem when it matters at RG.
None of those matches deny my point of the guy being one of the fittest guys in the tour. Against Nadal he choked badly (nobody denies he is a choker) and against Del Potro more or less the same, adding that he, being a ball basher, a lot of the times has no answers to what is happening in the court, specially in hard ones. None of those points have something related to fitness and stamina
 
#40
None of those matches deny my point of the guy being one of the fittest guys in the tour. Against Nadal he choked badly (nobody denies he is a choker) and against Del Potro more or less the same, adding that he, being a ball basher, a lot of the times has no answers to what is happening in the court, specially in hard ones. None of those points have something related to fitness and stamina
That’s fine, but do really exclude Djokovic from this group now only because he is 32 soon? I wouldn’t, and combine this with the mentality of Thiem and he won’t beat a decent Djokovic in a Slam match, especially if it’s a final (which I don’t think Thiem will reach this year anyway).
 
#41
That’s fine, but do really exclude Djokovic from this group now only because he is 32 soon? I wouldn’t, and combine this with the mentality of Thiem and he won’t beat a decent Djokovic in a Slam match, especially if it’s a final (which I don’t think Thiem will reach this year anyway).
Where did I say that? You mentioned the BO5 detail in Djokovic's favour, and for me it is a disadvantage if he faces Thiem at clay. Djokovic is still a really fit guy, but lets face the reality here: he has not faced a long match in a Slam after Wimbledon 2018, and that was splitted in two days. I wont fancy his chances in a grueling match against a decent Thiem in RG, at least in the physical aspect. If both are playing decent and goes to a 5th set, Thiem has the upper hand for me - now if he chokes and wastes his chances, that is another story
 
#42
Nobody's getting the Calendar Slam ffs. Laver only managed because 3/4 were grass and he had seriously weakened competition even for the time.

Yeah Novak's playing great, but isn't it still perhaps a little early for this thread when he's still only won one of the four so far?
 
#45
Djokovic himself is in decline. He has only won 1 slam this year. I would never mention CYGS until he sweeps through to Wimbledon. However, there is a big possibility for him do do another non-calendar year GS. That should be mentioned, not CYGS at this point. I'd say his chance at CYGS this year is around 10% as of now.
 
#46
Djokovic himself is in decline. He has only won 1 slam this year. I would never mention CYGS until he sweeps through to Wimbledon. However, there is a big possibility for him do do another non-calendar year GS. That should be mentioned, not CYGS at this point. I'd say his chance at CYGS this year is around 10% as of now.
Well seen as only one slam has actually happened, I'd say he has a 100% strike rate so far.
 
#47
The media circus that would result by the time of the beginning of the USO would be an awful lot for one guy to handle. I think that and his age makes it likely that someone else wins at least one of the remaining three majors. I think I would pick the field in all three majors at this point, in other words, it's likely Djokovic doesn't win another major this season, but the remaining three are won by three different players. That's the way this season has thus far progressed -- no dominant player, a different winner in almost every tournament.
 
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