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Google translate of the article posted on Serbian news portal B92.net

Before the start of Roland Garros, Novak Djokovic talked about the situation with the coronavirus, the conditions at the tournament and the false-positive tests.

Author: Luka Nikolic
Source: B92.net
Saturday, 9/26/2020 | 17:25


Djokovic will start his attack on the Roland Garros title on Monday with a duel against the Swedish player Mikael Imer.

During the media address, one of the most extensive topics was related to testing for coronavirus, which Novak had at one point this year.

The Serbian tennis player revealed that he has already been tested in Paris, how many times he has been tested in Rome, but he also made an interesting comparison with the conditions in Europe and those in the USA.

"Yes, I was tested. I was tested several times in Rome, then before coming to Paris, and then when I came here, where I was quarantined before the results arrived. I will follow the instructions we were all given and they will test me like everyone else, every four or five days, despite having COVID anti-bodies. In New York I was not tested after the first test, when I was negative, because of anti-bodies I had. But in Europe it is different. In Rome I had to be tested every couple of days, and it's the same in Paris. Each country has a different approach to coronavirus testing. I don't even think about whether I still have the virus in me or not, I've been tested many times (negatively) since I got the virus. It is still unknown if the virus can re-infect you after you recover. There are many misunderstandings, some countries claim one thing, some another... We have to follow the rules, and they are quite strict in France, but I think it has to be that way. As a tennis player, I am grateful to be able to play tennis and compete for another Grand Slam. ", said Djokovic.

In the story about the information circulating about the coronavirus, Novak pointed out something that is not talked about enough.

"I think there is a lot of confusion in the world, I'm not a medical expert, but from the standpoint of someone who simply watches what's going on, there are a lot of different opinions around. What is this virus, how virulent it is, is it really that dangerous or not, what are the measures to fight the virus etc. There is a handful of information on both sides of the spectrum, so I think that in general the majority of the world's population is very confused by the amount of information and I don't have a clear opinion on that. I can't talk professionally, but what bothers me is that I don't see the media in the world talk about how immunity can be strengthened. They all talk about precautions, we’ve all learned that by heart, but we don’t hear enough experts explaining how to boost our immune system, through diet, good sleep, breathing exercises and so on. There is a reason why it is not a topic, obviously. I think it would be beneficial to people because they are afraid. So much different information keeps people in fear and that's their natural reaction." Novak told reporters via a virtual conference room.

Unlike New York where he had the option to rent a house to stay in during the tournament, at Roland Garros he has to be accommodated in a certain hotel with all the other participants.

"I'm staying like everyone else, in that official hotel designated for tournament participants. I didn't know you could walk out of the club to the place where we train and go out on the street without an escort. And here we have security that follows you, probably to see where you are moving, etc. I don't know if it's just for the top players or for all the players, I guess it's hard for them to provide the amount of people who will follow so many players which are here. The rules are not clear enough, not just in France but everywhere in the world. I have to abide by all the rules they have set in order to be allowed to play this tournament, and I really want to play the tournament."

Djokovic also touched on the topic of Damir Dzumhur, who was expelled from the tournament because his coach Petar Popovic received a positive test for COVID-19. The Bosnian player, meanwhile, announced a lawsuit, and Popovic received a negative test a day or two later.

"The situation with Dzumhur turned out to be extremely unfair. Not only with him, I also heard that Verdasco was removed from the draw. He was negative in Hamburg, today he was positive... I don't understand why supposedly positive players are not allowed to have another test after 24 hours. They can be quarantined in their room and see if it was a false positive test or confirmed positive test. I think it would be a logical protocol, to allow the players to see if it is a positive test or not. In Cincinnati, two players were expelled from the tournament. They were positive, then negative two days later, and then negative again two days later. There are many false positive tests, they say that the reliability of tests is about 50 percent", Novak said.

"I'm not a medical expert, so I am not in a position to say what's right and what's not. I'm sorry for those players who came, worked hard to prepare and were negative, and then came here and were tested positive because maybe those tests were not reliable and they were expelled, and after a day or two were negative. He returned to Serbia the next day and was tested there and was negative. It is not easy for the organizers either, they have to take care of hundreds, thousands of tests a day, but again ... It's a big deal. If there is time, they should give the player a chance to do another test, and if he is positive again - fine, remove him from the tournament."

At the tournament in Hamburg, which is being played this week, an extremely interesting situation was seen when the Frenchman Benoit Perr revealed that he received a positive test for COVID-19, and despite that, he was allowed to go out on the field.

"It's different for ATP tournaments. In Hamburg, Benoit Perr was positive and was able to participate in the tournament, because the chief doctor estimated that although he had traces of the virus in his body, he is not contagious anymore. I don't know what to say. ATP tournaments have one rules, Grand Slam tournaments another rules, and they go one after the other. It's a little confusing, but we have to deal with it", underlined Novak.
 
The organizational skill (using the term loosely when it comes to FFT) of RG will be on full display over the next 2 weeks.
 
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Man if they are so strict despite relying on such unreliable testing where one day you can be positive and next be negative it makes it all so unpredictable.
 
I understand Novak's standpoint, but I also understand Roland Garros organizers. In case an outbreak that would be traced back to the hotel where all players stay, it would be a huge issue and embarrassment, so better safe than sorry.
 
Talk about pseudoscience. Despite all of his breathing exercises, sleeping routines, and special diet, did Nole get the virus or not? Hmmm :unsure:;)

I assume you are sarcastic. Immunity is not a binary system (0 or 1), so strengthening your immune system is all about decreasing the probability of developing the disease, not absolute protection (even inoculation does not guarantee absolute, 100% protection).

And by the way, he had an asymptomatic infection, which means that his immune system is superb ;) You get invaded every day with thousands of bacteria and viruses, which get instantly neutralized without you even being aware of it. Only if your immune system fails to combat the invader, you will develop symptoms of a disease.
 
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Talk about pseudoscience. Despite all of his breathing exercises, sleeping routines, and special diet, did Nole get the virus or not? Hmmm :unsure:;)

He's saying that health experts should be discussing these things in conjunction with discussions about, say, social distancing protocols. Which is fair enough. Not once did he say "you'll be OK no matter what if you breathe from the diaphragm more."
 
He is not a happy chap at all.
I agree with every word he says. I also think he is sceptical about how bad this virus is. Wish he would let rip and just say ********* as that seems his viewpoint.
 
Talk about pseudoscience. Despite all of his breathing exercises, sleeping routines, and special diet, did Nole get the virus or not? Hmmm :unsure:;)
Good question. He says he's got antibodies so he believes that he got COVID on the other hand he sounds as if he doesn't have confidence in the tests.
 
I assume you are sarcastic. Immunity is not a binary system (0 or 1), so strengthening your immune system is all about decreasing the probability of developing the disease, not absolute protection (even inoculation does not guarantee absolute, 100% protection).

And by the way, he had an asymptomatic infection, which means that his immune system is superb ;) You get invaded every day with thousands of bacteria and viruses, which get instantly neutralized without you even being aware of it. Only if your immune system fails to combat the invader, you will develop symptoms of a disease.


Being asymptomatic hardly means you have a superb immune system. It's estimated that 40% of people with it (from the *general population*) are asymptomatic, maybe more. I don't think Nole's vegan diet and meditation gave him superpowers like he believes.
 
The PTSA is supposed to do what the ATP Council has failed to do.

Indeed.

At any rate, the PTPA is very much in its infancy; I'm not sure it presently has the capacity to address orders of business in a formal way. But Djokovic himself seems to be, at the very least, in conversation with the tournament officials about their testing protocols.
 
I just saw the US Open tournament officials give him a full 10 minutes to plead his case about an incident that clearly did not warrant any discussion.

If Novak wants to talk, they'll listen.
But the umpire didn't listen, he still did what he had to do. Novak has no powers to call the shots. They didn't listen to him as president of the council why would they listen to him now?
 
That's not what happened. The officials were just waiting for the call from upstairs.

So if the "call" came immediately, you think Novak wouldn't have gotten the same chance to plead his case? I disagree.


But the umpire didn't listen, he still did what he had to do. Novak has no powers to call the shots. They didn't listen to him as president of the council why would they listen to him now?

Whether he's listened to and whether a decision is made in his favor are two different things.
 
So if the "call" came immediately, you think Novak wouldn't have gotten the same chance to plead his case? I disagree.




Whether he's listened to and whether a decision is made in his favor are two different things.
From what I saw, the umpire needed the referee to explain exactly what happened so they asked Novak to go his seat. He was then called and told that the decision to DQ him stood. Whilst he was making his case to the umpire, Busta asked the referee what was going on that's when they told Novak it was over.
 
They all talk about precautions, we’ve all learned that by heart, but we don’t hear enough experts explaining how to boost our immune system, through diet, good sleep, breathing exercises and so on. There is a reason why it is not a topic, obviously.

This bloke is still a complete and utter fruit-loop.
 
Google translate of the article posted on Serbian news portal B92.net

Before the start of Roland Garros, Novak Djokovic talked about the situation with the coronavirus, the conditions at the tournament and the false-positive tests.

Author: Luka Nikolic
Source: B92.net
Saturday, 9/26/2020 | 17:25


Djokovic will start his attack on the Roland Garros title on Monday with a duel against the Swedish player Mikael Imer.

During the media address, one of the most extensive topics was related to testing for coronavirus, which Novak had at one point this year.

The Serbian tennis player revealed that he has already been tested in Paris, how many times he has been tested in Rome, but he also made an interesting comparison with the conditions in Europe and those in the USA.

"Yes, I was tested. I was tested several times in Rome, then before coming to Paris, and then when I came here, where I was quarantined before the results arrived. I will follow the instructions we were all given and they will test me like everyone else, every four or five days, despite having COVID anti-bodies. In New York I was not tested after the first test, when I was negative, because of anti-bodies I had. But in Europe it is different. In Rome I had to be tested every couple of days, and it's the same in Paris. Each country has a different approach to coronavirus testing. I don't even think about whether I still have the virus in me or not, I've been tested many times (negatively) since I got the virus. It is still unknown if the virus can re-infect you after you recover. There are many misunderstandings, some countries claim one thing, some another... We have to follow the rules, and they are quite strict in France, but I think it has to be that way. As a tennis player, I am grateful to be able to play tennis and compete for another Grand Slam. ", said Djokovic.

In the story about the information circulating about the coronavirus, Novak pointed out something that is not talked about enough.

"I think there is a lot of confusion in the world, I'm not a medical expert, but from the standpoint of someone who simply watches what's going on, there are a lot of different opinions around. What is this virus, how virulent it is, is it really that dangerous or not, what are the measures to fight the virus etc. There is a handful of information on both sides of the spectrum, so I think that in general the majority of the world's population is very confused by the amount of information and I don't have a clear opinion on that. I can't talk professionally, but what bothers me is that I don't see the media in the world talk about how immunity can be strengthened. They all talk about precautions, we’ve all learned that by heart, but we don’t hear enough experts explaining how to boost our immune system, through diet, good sleep, breathing exercises and so on. There is a reason why it is not a topic, obviously. I think it would be beneficial to people because they are afraid. So much different information keeps people in fear and that's their natural reaction." Novak told reporters via a virtual conference room.

Unlike New York where he had the option to rent a house to stay in during the tournament, at Roland Garros he has to be accommodated in a certain hotel with all the other participants.

"I'm staying like everyone else, in that official hotel designated for tournament participants. I didn't know you could walk out of the club to the place where we train and go out on the street without an escort. And here we have security that follows you, probably to see where you are moving, etc. I don't know if it's just for the top players or for all the players, I guess it's hard for them to provide the amount of people who will follow so many players which are here. The rules are not clear enough, not just in France but everywhere in the world. I have to abide by all the rules they have set in order to be allowed to play this tournament, and I really want to play the tournament."

Djokovic also touched on the topic of Damir Dzumhur, who was expelled from the tournament because his coach Petar Popovic received a positive test for COVID-19. The Bosnian player, meanwhile, announced a lawsuit, and Popovic received a negative test a day or two later.

"The situation with Dzumhur turned out to be extremely unfair. Not only with him, I also heard that Verdasco was removed from the draw. He was negative in Hamburg, today he was positive... I don't understand why supposedly positive players are not allowed to have another test after 24 hours. They can be quarantined in their room and see if it was a false positive test or confirmed positive test. I think it would be a logical protocol, to allow the players to see if it is a positive test or not. In Cincinnati, two players were expelled from the tournament. They were positive, then negative two days later, and then negative again two days later. There are many false positive tests, they say that the reliability of tests is about 50 percent", Novak said.

"I'm not a medical expert, so I am not in a position to say what's right and what's not. I'm sorry for those players who came, worked hard to prepare and were negative, and then came here and were tested positive because maybe those tests were not reliable and they were expelled, and after a day or two were negative. He returned to Serbia the next day and was tested there and was negative. It is not easy for the organizers either, they have to take care of hundreds, thousands of tests a day, but again ... It's a big deal. If there is time, they should give the player a chance to do another test, and if he is positive again - fine, remove him from the tournament."

At the tournament in Hamburg, which is being played this week, an extremely interesting situation was seen when the Frenchman Benoit Perr revealed that he received a positive test for COVID-19, and despite that, he was allowed to go out on the field.

"It's different for ATP tournaments. In Hamburg, Benoit Perr was positive and was able to participate in the tournament, because the chief doctor estimated that although he had traces of the virus in his body, he is not contagious anymore. I don't know what to say. ATP tournaments have one rules, Grand Slam tournaments another rules, and they go one after the other. It's a little confusing, but we have to deal with it", underlined Novak.
The problem is that it’s covid which has no rules.
 
Djokovic had the same attitude during the Adria Tour, believing that his immune system would see off COVID because of his diet, breathing exercises, and plenty of sleep. Look where that got him.
 
The irony should be pointed out, because it *is* funny.
OK. Djokovic talked about strengthening the immune system in order to deal with virus in the best way possible. Djokovic also touched upon a question what is this particle at all, which imo is the biggest question of all.

Immune system can't help you with PCR test if it detects a particle from your genetic sample or gives you a false positive. But that's up to differentiating between a particle S-C-2 and disease COVID. Though, I would really love if someone can define this covid disease precisely. Is there anything at all that's new that would justify calling it a "new" disease? Obviously not, except for the media coverage it gets. Though that is a disease on its own.

I couldn't tell if you were ironic or what so here.
Djokovic had the same attitude during the Adria Tour, believing that his immune system would see off COVID because of his diet, breathing exercises, and plenty of sleep. Look where that got him.
Literally biggest nothingburger of all time. Some positive tests and one guy got a little sick. All blown out of proportion by the hysteric spreading media.
 
Djokovic had the same attitude during the Adria Tour, believing that his immune system would see off COVID because of his diet, breathing exercises, and plenty of sleep. Look where that got him.

And where that got him?
 
Literally biggest nothingburger of all time. Some positive tests and one guy got a little sick. All blown out of proportion by the hysteric spreading media.

Cringe.

An ESL speaker trying to drop in casual Americanisms like ''nothingburger", but failing to even formulate basic English sentences.
 
Being asymptomatic hardly means you have a superb immune system. It's estimated that 40% of people with it (from the *general population*) are asymptomatic, maybe more. I don't think Nole's vegan diet and meditation gave him superpowers like he believes.

Well, I guess it means that 40% of people have their immune system in balance/good shape, or they were infected with a small number of virus particles, so their immune system fought a "small scale war" with the virus, instead of going nuclear.

How can you possibly better neutralize a pathogen than developing antibodies while being completely asymptomatic?
 
There are some absolute crazies out there.

Thankfully, these people are very small in number.

I don't agree with this group of people either, my wife is a doctor who's been actively fighting COVID for the last 6-7 months and even have friends who died of COVID-19. However, I believe that in a democratic society you should not call people who don't share your opinion on a specific topic - crazy.

Social engineering and AI via mass media these days reached unprecedented levels, and I never write off a possibility that in the future I may be naive and manipulated by official information channels.
 
Good question. He says he's got antibodies so he believes that he got COVID on the other hand he sounds as if he doesn't have confidence in the tests.
He has a confused mind.
He is an Awesome tennis player but NO clue on this..
The constant 'im no expert but...' is a boring disclaimer of lots of blah blah blah stuff imo.
 
"..but we don’t hear enough experts explaining how to boost our immune system, through diet, good sleep, breathing exercises and so on. There is a reason why it is not a topic, obviously."

So, why didn't Djokovic tell everyone, why, since it is so obvious to him?

8-)
 
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