Djokovic gave up $1 million of his prize money to the lower ranked players

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OhYes

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The winner REGARDLESS was going to be giving up money. It wasn't some special Djokovic donation. He just happened to win.
He was complaining all the time before about champions getting so much while lower ranked getting peanuts. And he agreed for this especially to happen.
 
He was complaining all the time before about champions getting so much while lower ranked getting peanuts. And he agreed for this especially to happen.
And if Medvedev had won, he would've done the same thing or Karetsev the guy with the beat up Asics LMAO.
 

Firstservingman

Talk Tennis Guru
wait okay so can someone clarify here please with a source in english

he gave up the money, but did he decide to do it or was this a thing that was instigated by someone else/the tournament/his foundation? what's the deal? cos a conscious donation on his part is very, very different to something else
 

Firstservingman

Talk Tennis Guru
okay it seems like this isn't a donation per se, they reduced the champions' prize money to boost the early round exiters' money and this was ratified by the top guys including djokovic and serena etc

so it's a good thing of course and it seems to have novak's support, but it's not a donation that djokovic was going to do just himself
 

jm1980

G.O.A.T.
What a tool!
Can't believe he's trying to buy public affection with money. Never thought he'd go this far.

You will never be as loved and admired as Fededer and Nadlal! Deal with it!!
Not sure if serious but there are some who think this way. Djokovic haters in a nutshell:

Novak does something nasty: What more proof do you need? That's why he'll never be as loved as Federer and Nadal
Novak does something nice: He is faking it for attention. That's why he'll never be as loved as Federer and Nadal
 
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junior74

G.O.A.T.
Nice move by Novak!
Of course, there's a more general problem in money distribution on the tour.

I've never heard greed as a reason for disliking Novak, though :)
 

Forehanderer

Semi-Pro
This is my appeal to all fans no matter who they are cheering for to have a balanced mind. I like Federer for his tennis skills and to a lesser extent Nadal. I also respect Djokovic for his tennis. But what people do with their money is entirely upto them. I also don't like this nonsense about my player is large hearted while your player is stingy and tries to make money out of his shoes.
There is no english language article about Djokovic donating 1 million of his prize money. I'm sure the OP is not serbian or knows the language. Please don't go by the elation of yesterday's win and think through things with less emotions
 

weakera

G.O.A.T.
This is my appeal to all fans no matter who they are cheering for to have a balanced mind. I like Federer for his tennis skills and to a lesser extent Nadal. I also respect Djokovic for his tennis. But what people do with their money is entirely upto them. I also don't like this nonsense about my player is large hearted while your player is stingy and tries to make money out of his shoes.
There is no english language article about Djokovic donating 1 million of his prize money. I'm sure the OP is not serbian or knows the language. Please don't go by the elation of yesterday's win and think through things with less emotions
True, the article seems to describe the fact that before the tournament the prize changes were already negotiated. More fake news.

This from before the tourney,

In 2021, the total purse will be $61.95 million with the men's and women's singles champ taking home $2.13 million. Last year's winners were awarded $3.12 million.

And this is from the Serb article,


Djokovic won $ 2.13 million to win the first Grand Slam of the year. Great fortune, but far less than he got for the title last year, when he was paid $ 3.12 million.


The seemingly strange situation becomes even more bizarre with the fact that the prize fund of the Australian Open is higher by 7 million dollars this year.

However, as tournament director Craig Tiley revealed, Djokovic agreed to drastically reduce the prize money for winners so that young players and those who drop out in the early stages get more money, to ease the difficult situation in the crown era, but also to help with big the cost of travel to Australia and back.


More fake news and LIES. ALL players agreed to these changes.
 

Aussie Darcy

Bionic Poster
okay it seems like this isn't a donation per se, they reduced the champions' prize money to boost the early round exiters' money and this was ratified by the top guys including djokovic and serena etc

so it's a good thing of course and it seems to have novak's support, but it's not a donation that djokovic was going to do just himself
Ah so the other thread isn't a pisstake it's just the truth. Had Djokovic lost in the 1R this still would've happened to the eventual champion. So this thread title should also include Naomi Osaka, no?
 

Aussie Darcy

Bionic Poster
Hey haters how you gonna spin this
They'll say that 1 million is cheap, Fedal would have given more lmao
What a monster
Wow, that's a generous move!

You could spin it another way though - give the younger guys money, so they have less motivation to perform well, thus providing an easier path for Djokovic to win more slams.
Not sure if serious but there are some who think this way. Djokovic haters in a nutshell:

Novak does something nasty: What more proof do you need? That's why he'll never be as loved as Federer and Nadal
Novak does something nice: He is faking it for attention. That's why he'll never be as loved as Federer and Nadal
Just a response to these.

Whoever won the Australian Open, male or female would have given up the prize money. This isn't a donation by Novak, it was an agreement of both tours to lower prize money at the later stages as to benefit those who lose earlier. If by some fluke, Karatsev had won the title, he still would've given up the $1 million. This isn't special to Djokovic. I mean it's nice he's sticking to the agreement. Would've been any player on ATP or WTA giving it up.


Basically, this would be me posting saying Serena Williams gave up $190,000 of her prize money to lower ranked players. Because last year SF prize money was $1,040,000 and this year it's $850,000.

It would have been anyone.
 

Arak

Professional
Djokovic is really so adorable. When they gave him the check, he said thank you but that’s too much. Please deduct one million and give it to the needy lower ranking players. And so they did. What an amazing gesture. He’s a true gentleman.
 

Tennis_Freak99

Hall of Fame
Just a response to these.

Whoever won the Australian Open, male or female would have given up the prize money. This isn't a donation by Novak, it was an agreement of both tours to lower prize money at the later stages as to benefit those who lose earlier. If by some fluke, Karatsev had won the title, he still would've given up the $1 million. This isn't special to Djokovic. I mean it's nice he's sticking to the agreement. Would've been any player on ATP or WTA giving it up.


Basically, this would be me posting saying Serena Williams gave up $190,000 of her prize money to lower ranked players. Because last year SF prize money was $1,040,000 and this year it's $850,000.

It would have been anyone.
It wouldn't have happened without the PTPA. They struck a deal with ATP to ease the pyramid structure of prize money

Both Novak and Vasek deserve full praise! :love:
 

RaulRamirez

Hall of Fame
Not sure what the full story is - if not a true donation, then it sounds like it certainly had his blessing. But here would be the anti-Novak spin:

"Typical Novak - trying desperately to be liked."
(But he didn't say a word about it.)
"That's even worse - Novak sucks at PR."
 

ichaseballs

Rookie
1st round exit is $100k. I hope the money went to players who did not make the main draw.
Novak and other players created their own players association. Perhaps this is in part to advertise for the players and shine the light on the ATP not taking care of their players.
(separating the ATP from the interest of players seems more important now more than ever.)
 

Devtennis01

Hall of Fame
That is very cool. It makes sense, too. It's pretty dire that the champs get so much and the lower ranked guys so little. Too much like the real world!
 

Bender

G.O.A.T.
I saw the thread and tweet and thought oh wow mad respect for Djokovic there's no criticism just respect. But yeah as @Firstservingman said, this is just an agreement they all had. Like I could post this thread about Naomi Osaka. Or post it about Serena and all the other SFists etc.
Please do, I want an excuse to get the popcorn out
 

N01E

Professional
I know it's TTW, so the title naturally has to be misleading, but it's not exactly a donation. All top players agreed on it before the tournament, though it was mostly encouraged by Serena and Novak. Good idea nevertheless.
 

NonP

Hall of Fame
U toddlers know what would be even better? To make this bottom-heavier arrangement permanent. Now if Novak could get the players to sign off on that we'd know the PTPA is legit.

Oh yeah, and maybe to get the tourneys to fork up more $$$ after this pandemic has passed. Somewhat long-term, I know.
 

Karma Tennis

Hall of Fame
The players should have donated it to Tennis Australia.

Running the AO in 2021 has essentially made Tennis Australia financially broken. It is going to have to put its hand out to State and Federer Governments for money to run next year's AO. An absolute disgrace really given TA and its State based affiliates do little to fund the sport at grass roots and junior levels in Australia.
 

octobrina10

G.O.A.T.
And they obviously won't show this on the news lol

In the OP's article, I could't find anything confirming that Djoko "gave up $1 million of his prize money."
Translated via Google:
Index Sport: "...Djokovic won $ 2.13 million to win the first Grand Slam of the year. Great fortune, but far less than he got for the title last year, when he was paid $ 3.12 million.
The seemingly strange situation becomes even more bizarre with the fact that the prize fund of the Australian Open is higher by 7 million dollars this year.
However, as tournament director Craig Tiley revealed, Djokovic agreed to drastically reduce the winners' prizes so that more money would be given to young players and those who drop out in the early stages, to ease the difficult situation in the crown era, but also help with big the cost of travel to Australia and back. "

Reducing the prize money has been a usual thing for tournaments during the pandemic, and the tournaments officials haven't asked for permission from the participants to do so. I don't think it depended on Djoko how much the AO reduced the prize money.

Prize money at the 2020 AO:
EventWFSFQFRound of 16Round of 32Round of 64Round of 1281Q3Q2Q1
SinglesA$4,120,000A$2,065,000A$1,040,000A$525,000A$300,000A$180,000A$128,000A$90,000A$50,000A$32,500A$20,000
Doubles *A$760,000A$380,000A$200,000A$110,000A$62,000A$38,000A$25,000N/AN/AN/AN/A
Mixed Doubles *A$190,000A$100,000A$50,000A$24,000A$12,000A$6,250N/AN/AN/AN/AN/A

Prize money at the 2021 AO:
EventWFSFQFRound of 16Round of 32Round of 64Round of 1281Q3Q2Q1
SinglesA$2,750,000A$1,500,000A$850,000A$525,000A$320,000A$215,000A$150,000A$100,000A$52,500A$35,000A$25,000
Doubles *A$600,000A$340,000A$200,000A$110,000A$65,000A$45,000A$30,000N/AN/AN/AN/A
Mixed Doubles *A$150,000A$85,000A$45,000A$24,000A$12,000A$6,250N/AN/AN/AN/AN/A
 

SonnyT

Hall of Fame
TA will be back making money before long, as soon as the pandemic is over. After all, they have a monopoly of one of only 4 grand slams.

Banks will be eager to help them thru this difficult period! How do you think they managed to finance 3 roofed stadiums in the first place?
 

Aussie Darcy

Bionic Poster
Here
Tiley has now admitted the event has wiped out Tennis Australia’s $80 million in cash reserves and will force the event to seek concessional loans.

This is what sport looks like in the middle of a pandemic. Despite the heavy hits, Tiley is declaring the event a success after it showcased Melbourne to the world.

Behind the scenes, there were times when it felt anything but a success.
 

weakera

G.O.A.T.
Here


How is it possible to only have $80m in reserves when slams generate tens of millions in profit yearly? The organization must be run horribly. And are they really claiming that the tournament operated at a loss this year? I call BS.
 

Aussie Darcy

Bionic Poster
How is it possible to only have $80m in reserves when slams generate tens of millions in profit yearly? The organization must be run horribly. And are they really claiming that the tournament operated at a loss this year? I call BS.
Remembering there was the lockdown with no ticket sales and refunds needed to be given etc.

This from the same article.

With crowds also hesitant to attend in the middle of a pandemic the total attendance was just 130,374 spectators — down from 812,174 last year.
Also, didn't Wimbledon cancel cause they had pandemic insurance of $100 million. I think people underestimate the savings of these tournaments.
 
wait okay so can someone clarify here please with a source in english

he gave up the money, but did he decide to do it or was this a thing that was instigated by someone else/the tournament/his foundation? what's the deal? cos a conscious donation on his part is very, very different to something else
The facts are that
- the prize money was adjusted well before the tournament.
- as a result there was more money for the players going out in the earlier rounds and less for the last 4 or last 8 (one can look that up)
- it would apply to whomever won the tournament
- Djokovic is one of the people pushing for it

Djokovic should get massive credit for this.

Framing it as if Djokovic took 1 million out of his received prize money and distributed it to other players is not correct.
Just as suggesting that he was the only one pushing for it.
Saying that “the news probably won’t report on this” is false. Because it was a big story when it happened.

bottom line: great thing for Djokovic to support players that are less off than he is.
 

Bartelby

Bionic Poster
You forgot the main fact and that is that Tiley skewed the prize money to lower-ranked players in all probability to better sell the tournament to the public.

The facts are that
- the prize money was adjusted well before the tournament.
- as a result there was more money for the players going out in the earlier rounds and less for the last 4 or last 8 (one can look that up)
- it would apply to whomever won the tournament
- Djokovic is one of the people pushing for it

Djokovic should get massive credit for this.

Framing it as if Djokovic took 1 million out of his received prize money and distributed it to other players is not correct.
Just as suggesting that he was the only one pushing for it.
Saying that “the news probably won’t report on this” is false. Because it was a big story when it happened.

bottom line: great thing for Djokovic to support players that are less off than he is.
 
You forgot the main fact and that is that Tiley skewed the prize money to lower-ranked players in all probability to better sell the tournament to the public.
The first is a fact, the second is guess towards his motive.

It makes just as little sense as saying Djokovic did it to increase his popularity. If we stick to the facts for Djokovic and assume it was done in good faith, we should do the same for Tiley. It’s silly to think one did it in the role of Messiah and the other one just for personal gain.
 

Bartelby

Bionic Poster
Tiley decided this matter. Djokovic did not. The rest is speculation both by you and by me. Normally they up prize money at every level, so this was cost cutting with a purpose.

The first is a fact, the second is guess towards his motive.

It makes just as little sense as saying Djokovic did it to increase his popularity. If we stick to the facts for Djokovic and assume it was done in good faith, we should do the same for Tiley. It’s silly to think one did it in the role of Messiah and the other one just for personal gain.
 

Boom-Boom

Hall of Fame
True, the article seems to describe the fact that before the tournament the prize changes were already negotiated. More fake news.

This from before the tourney,

In 2021, the total purse will be $61.95 million with the men's and women's singles champ taking home $2.13 million. Last year's winners were awarded $3.12 million.

And this is from the Serb article,


Djokovic won $ 2.13 million to win the first Grand Slam of the year. Great fortune, but far less than he got for the title last year, when he was paid $ 3.12 million.


The seemingly strange situation becomes even more bizarre with the fact that the prize fund of the Australian Open is higher by 7 million dollars this year.

However, as tournament director Craig Tiley revealed, Djokovic agreed to drastically reduce the prize money for winners so that young players and those who drop out in the early stages get more money, to ease the difficult situation in the crown era, but also to help with big the cost of travel to Australia and back.


More fake news and LIES. ALL players agreed to these changes.
Exactly it’s just a change in prize money distribution, agreed by all players.
 
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