Djokovic giving up when it gets too tough

Cortana

Hall of Fame
We first saw this in RG and now in Vienna. I think this is highly unusual for him, he didn't do it in the past. He played his best eventhough he was losing. Where is his winner mentality? Gone? He clearly gives up the whole match if the 1st set is getting too tough. Either he wins it easily or he loses interest in winning.

Thoughts? Is this a new pattern? Will this affect the rest of his career?
 

daphne

Hall of Fame
Give it a rest and wait to see what happens. Did he play bad? Yes, he did. Is that an indication for the next match? No. We do not know the reasons behind it apart from what we have seen and heard in the press. That is it. Can an outstanding player lose the will for winning or form just like that? Think about it. Let's enjoy Paris.
 

socallefty

Legend
We first saw this in RG and now in Vienna. I think this is highly unusual for him, he didn't do it in the past.

Thoughts? Is this a new pattern? Will this affect the rest of his career?
How long have you been watching Djokovic? This was very common for him in many matches between 2004-2010 when he was famous for not finishing tough matches well especially in high heat and humidity. Somehow, he became a Superman for a few years in terms of his indomitable fighting spirit from 2011-1H2016. Then he reverted back to his weak-minded semi-tanking ways in 2H2016-1H2018 when he had Pepe Imaz in his box. He was strong mentally for a couple of years after that and now, it looks like he is having focus issues again. So, I would say it is a recurring pattern in his career and one hopes that history doesn’t repeat again in terms of another mental slump that lasts a few years.
 

octogon

Hall of Fame
We first saw this in RG and now in Vienna. I think this is highly unusual for him, he didn't do it in the past. He played his best eventhough he was losing. Where is his winner mentality? Gone? He clearly gives up the whole match if the 1st set is getting too tough. Either he wins it easily or he loses interest in winning.

Thoughts? Is this a new pattern? Will this affect the rest of his career?

Djokovic giving up when things are going against him was very common early in his career. He may just be more reverting to type as he's losing more weapons in his game and finding it harder to overwhelm players.

This is why I can never advocate Djokovic being the mentally strongest player. He has had periods like that in his career, where he shows no mental fortitude.
 

Cortana

Hall of Fame
I started watching Djokovic from US Open 2010, so I don't know how he was before that. It looks like I missed the worst part lol.
 

Backspin1183

G.O.A.T.
Nole fans don't need to worry too much. He's gonna be back to his usual self soon.

He went to play in Vienna to clinch the year end #1. He got the job done and doesn't want to play more.

Even though he doesn't say or show it, the RG final beatdown has shaken his confidence and he will need some time alone to process it all.
He's gonna be fine and will be motivated like before again.
 

blablavla

G.O.A.T.
Djokovic giving up when things are going against him was very common early in his career. He may just be more reverting to type as he's losing more weapons in his game and finding it harder to overwhelm players.

This is why I can never advocate Djokovic being the mentally strongest player. He has had periods like that in his career, where he shows no mental fortitude.
many Djokovic fanboiz truly believe that the ATP Tour started in 2011, so whatever happened before simply doesn't count :cool:
 

Beckerserve

Legend
We first saw this in RG and now in Vienna. I think this is highly unusual for him, he didn't do it in the past. He played his best eventhough he was losing. Where is his winner mentality? Gone? He clearly gives up the whole match if the 1st set is getting too tough. Either he wins it easily or he loses interest in winning.

Thoughts? Is this a new pattern? Will this affect the rest of his career?
Problem is he puts too much pressure on himself saying he is going to win this and that. Like he expects to roll over players. Then when guys give it to him he gets angry as if how dare they not bow down.
The rot set in after Nadal won USO 2019. His behaviour has become erratic since then. I got feeling he thought he would end 2019 YE1 and be one Major behind. To end YE2 and three behind seemed to frustrate him and even in Australia he looked super tense.
Once he won Dubai he started with the he wanted to go undefeated all season. That just displayed growing insecurity in his mind and i could see a mental implosion was on the cards.
If he takes rest of the year off and forgets tennis for a bit it will do wonders for him. Keep playing and making daft statements that he then has to back up will lead to eventually an early exit at his pet slam .
Ivanisevic the worse coach for him.
 
We first saw this in RG and now in Vienna. I think this is highly unusual for him, he didn't do it in the past. He played his best eventhough he was losing. Where is his winner mentality? Gone? He clearly gives up the whole match if the 1st set is getting too tough. Either he wins it easily or he loses interest in winning.

Thoughts? Is this a new pattern? Will this affect the rest of his career?
Yes, it's the end of his career.

The defeat to SoneGOAT will crush him, and SoneGOAT will win the next 22 slams and beat everyone's records.
 
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NADALalot

Hall of Fame
Problem is he puts too much pressure on himself saying he is going to win this and that. Like he expects to roll over players. Then when guys give it to him he gets angry as if how dare they not bow down.
The rot set in after Nadal won USO 2019. His behaviour has become erratic since then. I got feeling he thought he would end 2019 YE1 and be one Major behind. To end YE2 and three behind seemed to frustrate him and even in Australia he looked super tense.
Once he won Dubai he started with the he wanted to go undefeated all season. That just displayed growing insecurity in his mind and i could see a mental implosion was on the cards.
If he takes rest of the year off and forgets tennis for a bit it will do wonders for him. Keep playing and making daft statements that he then has to back up will lead to eventually an early exit at his pet slam .
Ivanisevic the worse coach for him.
I agree, Djokovic should have a 6 month break.
 

BackhandDTL

Hall of Fame
Djokovic was getting steamrolled at RG. He could fight like David Ferrer on adderall and he’d still get destroyed.
 

Tony48

Legend
2020 seems like it was a mentally taxing year for him. Coronavirus, CATCHING coronavirus, the flack he got from hosting that exho, the players’ council, etc. He just needs to reset in 2021.
 
Watched the match on TC, didn't see or hear anything that unususal--didn't appear to be tanking ala' kwazy knicky. He lost--at least he showed up and went a couple of rounds--where were Rafa & Roger?
 

JadeC

Hall of Fame
2020 seems like it was a mentally taxing year for him. Coronavirus, CATCHING coronavirus, the flack he got from hosting that exho, the players’ council, etc. He just needs to reset in 2021.
Yea, hope he can rest his body and mind after the WTF and come back strong to defend the AO. The time off will do him some good. 2020 has not been kind to him.
 

GabeT

G.O.A.T.
Novak is number 1 in the world

just clinched his 6th YE1

has most points won in 2020 and is 70% above the second best

Has won 42 of his last 45 matches

so of course TTW decides to write over and over how he’s a has been


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