I'm trying to find a catchier acronym for those who deride him.
LAMOPOAT (Luckiest and most opportune player of all-time) isn't quite cutting it. I can cut the P as it's redundant, but LAMOOAT?
Or simply LOAT?
This said, the incessant threads from Junkieballer are a bit much as well
Agreed, both are the different sides of the same coin. One is Fedal copium addicts and the other is Nole simps.
Everyone and their mom knows Nole won the slam race and has all the records worth having and has proven himself over his rivals over his stupendous career and still manages to hang in there with the young guns. Nole simps should just let it go and not get ragebaited by these Fedal copium addicts. It's obvious what those guys are doing and they know it as well, interacting with them is a waste of time.
It's been more than 3 years since Fed retired and more than an year since Nadal retired, and yet these guys still spam here incessantly on the GOAT instead of going to the Former Pro Players' section. Almost every single thread devolves into a d*** measuring contest between the Big 3 with stats and time travel tennis and same old ****ty takes being recycled and shoved over and over.
It's always the usual suspects, I won't point out the names but you know who I'm talking about -
The same old ****:
1) Fed had age disadvantage as he was 5-6 years older than Nadal or Djokovic.
2) Fed had 1HBH which is a disadvantage and needs to be taken into account.
3) Fed dominated so strong that he made it look like weak era, when it was actually not.
4) ATP Finals is an exho because Nadal never won it.
5) Nadal has 11-7 h2h over Djokovic in GS hence he's the big daddy, so what if 10/18 of the matches were at RG? It was Nole's fault to be consistent at RG instead of losing before QF like Nadal at Wimbledon 2012-17.
6) Any achievements after age 27 are inflated.
7) 2018-23 is weak era where Nole vultured and should not be counted as valid.
8) Nole never dominated "mugs" like Murray and Wawrinka during 2011-16, unlike Fed hence it gives illusion of strong era.
9) Money and fame is paramount in Tennis, Federer is GOAT and will be long remembered but Nole will be forgotten as a random guy in public's eyes.
10) Nole is a poor guy in exile from his country and is evading taxes hence can never be GOAT.
11) Nole never beat Federer at Wimbledon till 2014 until he got too old and had a close match in 2019, hence everything from 2014 Wimbledon is weak era.
12) Nole's wins over Nadal at RG are invalid and do not count hence Nole never beat peak Rafa hence can't be GOAT.
13) Nole didn't beat peak Alcaraz on clay and peak Sinner on HC, it was either they were tired or it was luck. Never mind that it was the reigning champions of Roland Garros or the 2 time defending champion of AO, which was between a great run from winner of Paris Masters & ATP Finals and the sunshine double sweep.
14) Nole is weak as 36 is new 26, he's losing to Sincaraz hence he's not GOAT.
15) Nole should get inspired by Fedal and lose to lower ranked players instead of losing to Sincaraz to preserve his already "flimsy" legacy of vulturing.
I mean other than parroting the above points are they capable of critical thinking?
And then we have the Nole simps who pull out random stats from the a**. He has the freaking slam record, most weeks at No. 1, most YE#1, most masters and most YEC and won all big titles. There's no need to pull these other silly stuff.
We should have the mods create a GOAT debate thread and keep these posters siloed in there so that it doesn't make the discourse shallow and repetitive.
