Djokovic has grown on me

True Fanerer

G.O.A.T.
These Djokovic fans are unbearable. How anyone can dare to say that Federer is not the GOAT. There is one particular guy who is the worst of those lot. He writes 9+4+1 all the time and posts this official ATP video.


It is so irritating.
I've accepted your delusion. I hope you can do the same in time.
 

Edgecrusher

Professional
What I like about this thread is that some of you are just reflecting about the fanbases and yourselves. I really hate (whatever fanbase we´re talking about) when people come out of their holes claiming their fave is the GOAT after the guy just won 3 matches in a row or succeeded in going to toilet without any help. WTF ... I´m not the smartest poster and surely not always fair but these kind of posts and threads just make me puke.

When Novak, Roger, Rafa, Andy, Stan, Delpo and some others will finally leave the scene most of us will realize which golden tennis era we were witnessing.
 

MajesticMoose

Hall of Fame
I used to really hate him a few years ago. Probably one of my least liked players but now he's one of my favorites and I don't want to miss any of his matches. It may have been his comeback from injury that got me going.
 

ABCD

Hall of Fame
I've accepted your delusion. I hope you can do the same in time.

Djokovic is slowly but surly, becoming accepted as the GOAT by the tennis establishment/decision makers. Like in 2006 when Federer still did not have double digits they were discussing that Federer is the GOAT. This is now going on with Djokovic and could happen to Nadal as well if he starts increasing his tally. Can you imagine this place after Federer is overtaken in GS numbers.
 

True Fanerer

G.O.A.T.
Djokovic is slowly but surly, becoming accepted as the GOAT by the tennis establishment/decision makers. Like in 2006 when Federer still did not have double digits they were discussing that Federer is the GOAT. This is now going on with Djokovic and could happen to Nadal as well if he starts increasing his tally. Can you imagine this place after Federer is overtaken in GS numbers.
I hear ya.
 
These Djokovic fans are unbearable. How anyone can dare to say that Federer is not the GOAT. There is one particular guy who is the worst of those lot. He writes 9+4+1 all the time and posts this official ATP video.


It is so irritating.
Self awareness is good.
 

RaulRamirez

Legend
These Djokovic fans are unbearable. How anyone can dare to say that Federer is not the GOAT. There is one particular guy who is the worst of those lot. He writes 9+4+1 all the time and posts this official ATP video.


It is so irritating.

Well, it is a nice feather in his cap! But yes, that alone doesn't make him the GOAT.

But, I think it's only fair for the Federer loyalists to realize how close both Rafa (age 32) and Novak (31) are to Fed (37), achievements-wise, and that Djokovic has (almost inarguably) achieved more per time on tour than Roger has. A greater winning percentage overall, and an even higher percentage of "slams" and Masters entered and won (along with the NCYGS and winning all 14 big titles...putting Olympic singles gold aside) all point to him certainly being on the same level as Fed and Rafa. And for (many) Fed fans not to acknowledge this, is ___________. (choose your word: dishonest, ignorant, closed-minded).

To Fed's huge credit, his winning 3 more majors and getting back to #1 for a spell or two in 2017-18 is an awesome achievement; his longevity at the top is remarkable, and we'll see if either Rafa or Novak can match that OR achieve more in less time. Fed is amazing; I love the game, and really like all these guys. But, he doesn't have a monopoly on being the "GOAT" - mythical title though it is.
 

ABCD

Hall of Fame
Well, it is a nice feather in his cap! But yes, that alone doesn't make him the GOAT.

You phrased it carelessly. You should have said "But yes, that alone doesn't make him the GOAT for me". I allow you to have your GOAT criteria and I expect that you allow me to have my GOAT criteria. What is wrong with many Federer fans is that they intolerant to different opinions.
 

TheFifthSet

Legend
True. However, he was not typical TTW Fed fan. He was always measured, polite and rational. He said to me that I am "Old Yugoslav Communist" and that I "chickened out when war was around" although he doesn't know anything about me (never had any contact with me or anything etc.), i.e. he knows about me as much as other members of TTW do. I provoked this reaction by saying that "Djokovic's victory is also his victory" assuming that someone from Belgrade would be happy for Djokovic to win.

Bolded is much the same re: the passive-aggressive fanbase bickering. Maybe the few Fedkovic fans that are here should take those oft-mentioned sabbaticals until things calm down. ;)

And Martin is a good egg. It is unfortunate that things unfolded the way they did, but I know enough about him outside of here to know that whatever was said, it was wholly uncharacteristic. Wish he'd come back.
 

RaulRamirez

Legend
You phrased it carelessly. You should have said "But yes, that alone doesn't make him the GOAT for me". I allow you to have your GOAT criteria and I expect that you allow me to have my GOAT criteria. What is wrong with many Federer fans is that they intolerant to different opinions.

Okay - yes, in my opinion. It is obvious that I'm expressing my personal opinions, so I don't always include that phrase. At the same time, I think I'm consistently respectful of others here and not dismissive of other points points of view.

I think that intolerance isn't exclusive to Fed fans, although among many of them there is a certain arrogance on (supposedly) Fed's behalf.

Since this kind of came up, would you (as of now) rank Noak's career above both Rafa's and Fed's?
 

NoleFam

Bionic Poster
True. However, he was not typical TTW Fed fan. He was always measured, polite and rational. He said to me that I am "Old Yugoslav Communist" and that I "chickened out when war was around" although he doesn't know anything about me (never had any contact with me or anything etc.), i.e. he knows about me as much as other members of TTW do. I provoked this reaction by saying that "Djokovic's victory is also his victory" assuming that someone from Belgrade would be happy for Djokovic to win.

Don't hold it against him. I think he just had a bad day and for some reason had an uncharacteristic episode that day. He actually reached out and apologized for what happened, and he's a good guy.
 

GoldenSwing

Rookie
Djokovic is far more likeable than he was back then (pre 2015). I found him too cocky for my liking. The celebrations, the imitations, the "I can beat nadal on clay" (holy, how this has turned around)

But I have grown to be a big fan of him.
He's been through it all as a tennis player:

-Played tennis in war torn Serbia. Hid from missiles and bombs
-Went through a long period of injuries early in his career
-Sat as the defacto third wheel behind Fed and Nadal. He was Nadal's pigeon at that point.
-Had a year where he switched raquets and couldn't adjust at all. His serve was in particular, the weakest point of his game.
-Found out he had a gluten allergy
-Fixed his fitness and serve and stopped eating gluten in the 2011 off season
-Created one of the greatest seasons ever in 2011, against the hardest competition in a while
-Turned Nadal into his own pigeon
-Played in the longest GS final of all time

-Mental lapses and chokes between 2012-2014
-Achieved the greatest statistical season in 2015, perhaps of all time. Improved his serve, volley, and slice.
-After RG, lost motivation and love for the sport.
-Comes back in 2018 to win two slams.

Now considered a tennis god, by a lot of fans and pros.
He would have a great biography movie

He has my respect for maturing, finding happiness in his personal life, and being extremely humble/respectful.
Good role model too
 
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