Djokovic has lost 4 of his last 8 matches

USO

Professional
Not long ago Djokovic fans were gloating about how Djokovic was undefeated but I did say that his level was being overrated because he was not playing the best players and that he was also struggling in many of his matches.

And here he is now struggling to win matches and completely being bullied and exposed despite playing mostly in conditions he likes on indoors hardcourt. I was right after all. For the record it all started with that bagel by Nadal. :love:

French OpenF Rafael Nadal (2)2Loss (1)0–6, 2–6, 5–7
Vienna1R Filip Krajinović30Win7–6(8–6), 6–3
Vienna2R Borna Ćorić24Win7–6(13–11), 6–3
ViennaQF Lorenzo Sonego (LL)42Loss2–6, 1–6
ATP FinalsRR Diego Schwartzman (8)9Win6–3, 6–2
ATP FinalsRR Daniil Medvedev (4)5Loss3–6, 3–6
ATP FinalsRR Alexander Zverev (5)7Win6–3, 7–6(7–4)
ATP FinalsSF Dominic Thiem (3)3Loss5-7, 6-7(10-12), 7-6(7-5)
 

Bamoos

Rookie
Only so long you can make miracle escapes. Wimbledon 2019. Australia, Dubai, Cincinatti, Rome 2020. That kind of luck runs out unless you step it up, can’t win forever with just consistency.

I think he’s feeling huge pressure after his Rg annihilation and default.. he fully expected 19 slams all heading to Australian now he’s 20-20-17, 3 behind. Damage control in full flow bigging up smaller records and year end number 1’s earned during corona year.
 

ND-13

Professional
Won ATP Cup, AO, Dubai, Cincy and Rome. Made finals of FO

I would say it was still a great year, even though he would feel terribly upset from Wimb and USO pulled from his grasp.
 

3loudboys

Hall of Fame
I just watched the Thiem match and credit to both players - fantastic performances and could have gone either way. Thiem made the most unbelievable comeback in the final tie break from 4-0 down and Novak must be gutted after saving match points in the second set breaker. So much for some folks saying the year end is an exo, it mattered to those guys today.
 

Badabing888

Hall of Fame
Ouch, 4-0 up in a tie break. Still, finishing World no.1 for the year, winning AO, and remaining Wimbledon champ. Plus striking a US open lineswoman. Overall, a very eventful year for Novak. Could have been 18 slams, but will need to wait til January if AO goes ahead.
 

PeoplesChamp

Hall of Fame
Only so long you can make miracle escapes. Wimbledon 2019. Australia, Dubai, Cincinatti, Rome 2020. That kind of luck runs out unless you step it up, can’t win forever with just consistency.

I think he’s feeling huge pressure after his Rg annihilation and default.. he fully expected 19 slams all heading to Australian now he’s 20-20-17, 3 behind. Damage control in full flow bigging up smaller records and year end number 1’s earned during corona year.
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NADALalot

Hall of Fame
I was saying earlier in the year that Djokovic could lose to guys that he usually beats, because he was down multiple match points to Monfils, and struggled with Bautista Agut and Raonic, and the AO Final down 2-sets-to-1 which he's never been before in an AO Final.... So despite going undefeated for a while, there were signs he was in decline.
 

zipplock

Hall of Fame
Not long ago Djokovic fans were gloating about how Djokovic was undefeated but I did say that his level was being overrated because he was not playing the best players and that he was also struggling in many of his matches.

And here he is now struggling to win matches and completely being bullied and exposed despite playing mostly in conditions he likes on indoors hardcourt. I was right after all. For the record it all started with that bagel by Nadal. :love:

French OpenFRafael Nadal (2)2Loss (1)0–6, 2–6, 5–7
Vienna1RFilip Krajinović30Win7–6(8–6), 6–3
Vienna2RBorna Ćorić24Win7–6(13–11), 6–3
ViennaQFLorenzo Sonego (LL)42Loss2–6, 1–6
ATP FinalsRRDiego Schwartzman (8)9Win6–3, 6–2
ATP FinalsRRDaniil Medvedev (4)5Loss3–6, 3–6
ATP FinalsRRAlexander Zverev (5)7Win6–3, 7–6(7–4)
ATP FinalsSFDominic Thiem (3)3Loss5-7, 6-7(10-12), 7-6(7-5)
In all fairness, 3 of the loses are to Nadal, Thiem and Med. The other he didn't try in. Context matters.
 

Third Serve

G.O.A.T.
Again, do you guys have this energy for Lew II threads, and his pre-prepared, often insanely obscure stats designed to put down Nole's rivals?

And he's been doing that for years. Sometimes people get fed up, and decide to fight fire with fire.
Your premise is incorrect because I dislike Lew threads as well.
 
In all fairness, 3 of the loses are to Nadal, Thiem and Med. The other he didn't try in. Context matters.
Of course.

We could do this cherry-pickery with Medvedev's results post-Shanghai 2019 too.

"Hey, he lost 4 in a row! What a loser!" Nevermind that he'd played 6-7 consecutive finals beforehand.

Yes, at WTC it isn't uncommon to lose 2 or 3 matches, even for top players.

(Hint: only top players participate... plus Schwartzman.)
 

Imperator

Hall of Fame
I was saying earlier in the year that Djokovic could lose to guys that he usually beats, because he was down multiple match points to Monfils, and struggled with Bautista Agut and Raonic, and the AO Final down 2-sets-to-1 which he's never been before in an AO Final.... So despite going undefeated for a while, there were signs he was in decline.
Thiem beating Djokovic is nothing new, don't compare him to the likes of Raonic, Monfils and RBA.
 

weakera

Legend
I was saying earlier in the year that Djokovic could lose to guys that he usually beats, because he was down multiple match points to Monfils, and struggled with Bautista Agut and Raonic, and the AO Final down 2-sets-to-1 which he's never been before in an AO Final.... So despite going undefeated for a while, there were signs he was in decline.
Agreed, it was a smoke and mirrors run. The fact that he had so much trouble with Thiem in the AO Final was a huge red flag.
 

Phoenix1983

G.O.A.T.
Novak Djokovic fails to equal Federer’s YEC record.

He’ll also never get the slam record.

He’s now relying solely on weeks at No 1 to stake some sort of GOAT claim. But we all know he’s only racking those up due to a very weak young generation.
 

Born_to_slice

Hall of Fame
Novak Djokovic fails to equal Federer’s YEC record.

He’ll also never get the slam record.

He’s now relying solely on weeks at No 1 to stake some sort of GOAT claim. But we all know he’s only racking those up due to a very weak young generation.
Show me a player from the strong era with Thiem's h2h with the big 3.
 

Beckerserve

Hall of Fame
Not long ago Djokovic fans were gloating about how Djokovic was undefeated but I did say that his level was being overrated because he was not playing the best players and that he was also struggling in many of his matches.

And here he is now struggling to win matches and completely being bullied and exposed despite playing mostly in conditions he likes on indoors hardcourt. I was right after all. For the record it all started with that bagel by Nadal. :love:

French OpenF Rafael Nadal (2)2Loss (1)0–6, 2–6, 5–7
Vienna1R Filip Krajinović30Win7–6(8–6), 6–3
Vienna2R Borna Ćorić24Win7–6(13–11), 6–3
ViennaQF Lorenzo Sonego (LL)42Loss2–6, 1–6
ATP FinalsRR Diego Schwartzman (8)9Win6–3, 6–2
ATP FinalsRR Daniil Medvedev (4)5Loss3–6, 3–6
ATP FinalsRR Alexander Zverev (5)7Win6–3, 7–6(7–4)
ATP FinalsSF Dominic Thiem (3)3Loss5-7, 6-7(10-12), 7-6(7-5)
Many of us Nadal fans got accused of being Djokovic haters when we were saying we wanted Nadal to play Djokovic on any surface on current form. Thiem was poor today his FH was a liability yet he still won on djokovics best surface indoors. Medvedev thrashed him. PCB was outclassing him at USO.
I am not sure when the penny will drop for Djokovic fans that his level has dropped massively. He is never going to win 4 more Majors. Nadal is much more likely to win a few more. In fact id back Federer over Djokovic to win a Major now.
 

Phoenix1983

G.O.A.T.
You were talking about weak young generation. IMO, there are plenty of good players right now, young and not so young. It's a pity this enslavement of humanity took precedence over everything, normal tennis season included.
Thiem ain't that young (aged 27).

One slam champion under 30, who won by not quite being as big a choker as his opponent, when 2 of the big 3 were injured and the 3rd got DQ'd, is hardly proof of a good young generation.
 
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