Djokovic: 'I had some tightness on my elbow, pain is there'

Yugram

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Novak Djokovic defeated Lucas Pouille in a straight-set match in Cincinnati on Friday. The Serbian player prevailed 7-6 6-1

Speaking of his physical condition, the Serb added: "I had some tightness, especially on my serve, and managed to finish the match which is great but the pain is there so hopefully I'll have no pain tomorrow. I'm going to see right now after the match, so hopefully will be fine for tomorrow."

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What you think? Should Djokovic give a w/o today considering how physical his match against Medvedev can be?
 

FRV2

Semi-Pro
Yes he should withdraw from the tournament. That elbow is a serious matter. Play the US Open and then rest up.
 

Yugram

Hall of Fame
Yes he should withdraw from the tournament. That elbow is a serious matter. Play the US Open and then rest up.
I do think he should withdraw. Like what if the match ends up being 2,5h grind-fest? And we know Djokovic is not gonna play Medvedev the way Federer or even Nadal do. The risk is too high for a Masters title.
 

FRV2

Semi-Pro
I do think he should withdraw. Like what if the match ends up being 2,5h grind-fest? And we know Djokovic is not gonna play Medvedev the way Federer or even Nadal do. The risk is too high for a Masters title.
Agreed
 

uscwang

Hall of Fame
Better be safe than sorry.
Might be related to something new that Goran introduced? I have a hard time trying to understand why Novak rocked his boat when everything was going so well. Twice now.
 

UnderratedSlam

Hall of Fame
I am so glad we have so many medical experts here!

And with such profound knowledge of the anatomy that they can make decisions for him without even inspecting his elbow.

Awesome.

On a slightly more serious note, nobody here, not even I, know what kind of pain or injury this is. It could be just temporary, it could be career-ending. Anything is possible.

Either way, I am sure RF fans are opening up champagne bottles, because suddenly RF looks like a shoe-in for the USO title.
 

UnderratedSlam

Hall of Fame
Better be safe than sorry.
Might be related to something new that Goran introduced? I have a hard time trying to understand why Novak rocked his boat when everything was going so well. Twice now.
He wants to improve Serbo-Croatian relations, win slams AND show both sides how to get along. Just a theory.

Not sure that's gonna have much of a result though...
 

Born_to_slice

Professional
I am so glad we have so many medical experts here!
And with such profound knowledge of the anatomy that they can make decisions for him without even inspecting his elbow.
Awesome.
He received triceps massage yesterday. Surgery was to remove microscopic bone fragments from his elbow, same what Nadal had extracted from his foot at the end of last season.
 

UnderratedSlam

Hall of Fame
He received triceps massage yesterday. Surgery was to remove microscopic bone fragments from his elbow, same what Nadal had extracted from his foot at the end of last season.
I won't pretend that I understood half of what you said. I understand these things little.

In Serbia we have a saying... "only God and fools know everything".

But thanks for the info. So it's not the elbow then?
 
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Raiden

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Ah... already laying the groundwork for his excuse when failing to defend title.

Dude is sly.
 

UnderratedSlam

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Ah... already laying the groundwork for his excuse when failing to defend title.

Dude is sly.
The real shyness is not replying to me directly, but hiding below me.

Don't be shy. We are all friends here. Tennis friends discussing facts. Or nonsense.

Ohhhh, you said sly, not shy.

My bad.

Well, you are sly too for hiding from me.

No, wait, were you responding to the OP?

In that case, my bad yet again.
 

FRV2

Semi-Pro
The real shyness is not replying to me directly, but hiding below me.

Don't be shy. We are all friends here. Tennis friends discussing facts. Or nonsense.

Ohhhh, you said sly, not shy.

My bad.

Well, you are sly too for hiding from me.

No, wait, were you responding to the OP?

In that case, my bad yet again.
lol I think he was just talking about Djokovic
 

UnderratedSlam

Hall of Fame
lol I think he was just talking about Djokovic
If a player gets injured and loses due to that injury, then tells the media he has an injury...

... how is that making excuses?

Making excuses is saying aliens abducted him so he couldn't practice.
 

FRV2

Semi-Pro
If a player gets injured and loses due to that injury, then tells the media he has an injury...

... how is that making excuses?

Making excuses is saying aliens abducted him so he couldn't practice.
I didn't say I agree with him

Either way, I am sure RF fans are opening up champagne bottles, because suddenly RF looks like a shoe-in for the USO title.
The thing about Federer is he can be taken out by anybody at the US Open. His body is probably feeling the effects of a lot of matches, as some other poster pointed out previously, and the US Open is probably his worst tournament conditions-wise (high heat/humidity with poor ventilation when the roof is closed, which likely contributed to his loss agains Millman last year). Though this year, it feels like the temperatures are much cooler than this time of last year.
 

TheGhostOfAgassi

Talk Tennis Guru
Novak Djokovic defeated Lucas Pouille in a straight-set match in Cincinnati on Friday. The Serbian player prevailed 7-6 6-1

Speaking of his physical condition, the Serb added: "I had some tightness, especially on my serve, and managed to finish the match which is great but the pain is there so hopefully I'll have no pain tomorrow. I'm going to see right now after the match, so hopefully will be fine for tomorrow."

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What you think? Should Djokovic give a w/o today considering how physical his match against Medvedev can be?
Is that everything we know about the injury?
 

UnderratedSlam

Hall of Fame
The thing about Federer is he can be taken out by anybody at the US Open. His body is probably feeling the effects of a lot of matches, as some other poster pointed out previously, and the US Open is probably his worst tournament conditions-wise (high heat/humidity with poor ventilation when the roof is closed, which likely contributed to his loss agains Millman last year). Though this year, it feels like the temperatures are much cooler than this time of last year.
I agree, sort of...

BUT. 2004-2008.

Huh? Right?

It's a mystery to me why he tends to play his worst slam at the USO in this decade. (Not counting FO which he stopped playing for a while, but where he nearly always goes far.) Maybe it is what you say, but he's had only two matches between Wimby and USO this year.
 

The Fedfather

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Djokovic needs to figure out what's causing the pain which I'm sure his medical team will do. It can be a minor injury and if dealt with properly he can play (although it's better to rest his limb) or it could be the issue he had previously recurring in which case he's definitely better off withdrawing. I'm not sure how Djokovic's camp deals with these things though, since he was allowed to play with an elbow issue until it required surgery.
 

Born_to_slice

Professional
I won't pretend that I understood half of what you said. I understand these things little.

In Serbia we have a saying... "only God and fools know everything".

But thanks for the info.
Yeah, we have a lot of sayings in Serbia. It's just what I gather from information that is available though, pretty straightforward really. Article on B92 said he received muscle (above the elbow, thus triceps) massage and Novak himself didn't sound overly worried after the match.
Ah... already laying the groundwork for his excuse when failing to defend title.

Dude is sly.
Ah, Raiden. Some of you Fed fans lately are like good wine...left open, getting more and more sour. :)
 
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UnderratedSlam

Hall of Fame
Yeah, we have a lot of sayings in Serbia. It's just what I gather from information that is available though, pretty straightforward really. Article on B92 said he received muscle (above the elbow, thus triceps) massage and Novak himself didn't sound overly worried after the match.
Yes, he didn't seem too worried, he seemed relaxed. But anything arm-wise just before the USO is a bit worrying. It would be nice if we could finally have a USO in which all three were injury-free.
 
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If Djokovic plays the semi then it means he is fine. I am pretty certain he will have been advised to what extent the issue is and what a potential 2 plus hour match can do to it, both here and at the USO. I wouldn't be worried either way, he should be fine for the defense of his USO title.
 
I am so glad we have so many medical experts here!

And with such profound knowledge of the anatomy that they can make decisions for him without even inspecting his elbow.

Awesome.

On a slightly more serious note, nobody here, not even I, know what kind of pain or injury this is. It could be just temporary, it could be career-ending. Anything is possible.

Either way, I am sure RF fans are opening up champagne bottles, because suddenly RF looks like a shoe-in for the USO title.
Why does every Fed fan have to have this thought? Stop lumping an entire fan base together, that is why we are so negative to each other on this site.

I truly dislike Djoker, but I would not be happy in the least, I do NOT want Djoker to get injured, because even though I do not like him and know he is on his way to pass Fed in many things, I love tennis first. If Djoker got injured right now, it would be about the worst thing in our sport. As a tennis fan, I want the best players playing their best.

So try to realize that not everyone is all about this GOATist crap. Plus, Fed in his form wont even see Djoker at the USO.
 

UnderratedSlam

Hall of Fame
Why does every Fed fan have to have this thought? Stop lumping an entire fan base together, that is why we are so negative to each other on this site.

I truly dislike Djoker, but I would not be happy in the least, I do NOT want Djoker to get injured, because even though I do not like him and know he is on his way to pass Fed in many things, I love tennis first. If Djoker got injured right now, it would be about the worst thing in our sport. As a tennis fan, I want the best players playing their best.

So try to realize that not everyone is all about this GOATist crap. Plus, Fed in his form wont even see Djoker at the USO.
It was a JOKE.

Relax.
 

uscwang

Hall of Fame
He received triceps massage yesterday. Surgery was to remove microscopic bone fragments from his elbow, same what Nadal had extracted from his foot at the end of last season.
Thanks!
I thought Novak was still relaxing on the beach a couple days before Cincy started. Maybe he wasn't well conditioned for a tough fight like the 1st set yesterday.
 

UnderratedSlam

Hall of Fame
When Djokovic beats his guy 6-4, 6-2, then let's revisit this topic.
Won't be nearly that easy. Medvedev is like a full-grown version of Santoro, just born to annoy his opponents.

I know... they have different styles. I mean the way they play, the unorthodox dumb shots that have players wanting to pull their hair out.

OK, not nearly as bad as Siemerink, Woodforde, Gilbert or other junkmeisters...
 

Born_to_slice

Professional
Won't be nearly that easy. Medvedev is like a full-grown version of Santoro, just born to annoy his opponents.

I know... they have different styles. I mean the way they play, the unorthodox dumb shots that have players wanting to pull their hair out.

OK, not nearly as bad as Siemerink, Woodforde, Gilbert or other junkmeisters...
Medvedev's game is depth and patience. He can absorb a lot of pace and make it hurt you in a long run. Most unorthodox is his technique + some funky slice dropper here and there. Novak needs to dictate and break his rhythm. If he gets in a lot of neutral rallies with him it can be a tough match, like in AO. Novak won attrition battle then, but I think he has tools to make it easier.
 

UnderratedSlam

Hall of Fame
Medvedev's game is depth and patience. He can absorb a lot of pace and make it hurt you in a long run. Most unorthodox is his technique + some funky slice dropper here and there. Novak needs to dictate and break his rhythm. If he gets in a lot of neutral rallies with him it can be a tough match, like in AO. Novak won attrition battle then, but I think he has tools to make it easier.
So is Medvedev the new Simon?
 

Born_to_slice

Professional
So is Medvedev the new Simon?
Simon has beautiful technique and less pace, more angle but there are some similarities like flat-ish shots and tendency to play long rallies. Medvedev's serve "technique" looks pretty similar to that Otte guy who played Federer in RG R2. Nothing about him is textbook stuff.
 

Third Serve

Hall of Fame
He needs to be fully prepped up for the US Open so he might choose to take it easy and focus on defending his Major title.
 
If Djokovic plays the semi then it means he is fine. I am pretty certain he will have been advised to what extent the issue is and what a potential 2 plus hour match can do to it, both here and at the USO. I wouldn't be worried either way, he should be fine for the defense of his USO title.
Do you really think that a grinding long metal with that Russian is not risky ??
 
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