Djokovic - Interesting All Time Records So Far

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Looking at his records across the different surfaces, you get a good view of how great Djokovic has become and that he is indeed worth mentioning on the greatest of all time players.

Slam Records

- On HC slams, Djokovic has the 2nd highest (sampras just behind) winning percentage after the number one Federer, but it seperates them 0.02%!

- On clay/RG, Djokovic has the 7th highest winning percentage, more than fed for example.

- On grass (wimbledon), he has the fourth highest winning percentage in history.

- He has 15 GS finals, 6th most in history. 25 semi-finals, and 31 quarters, placing him in the 5th position. He has also along with federer the most consecutive quarters and semi finals across the slams.

- In AO, Djokovic is the 2nd with most consecutive wins, with 25, after agassi who has 26.

- He has 187 match wins in Grand Slams, 7th most in history. 4 behind Nadal.

- His match record in percentages in slams is 85%, 5th best in history.

- 4 consecutive GS finals, 4th most in history.

- 5 finals in AO, most in history with Federer and Edberg.

- 5 finals at USO, 5th best in history.

- Nobody has 3 consecutive titles in AO as Djokovic

- 8 GS titles, 5th most in history.

All Tournaments

- 130 wins against top 10, 2nd most in history after TMF.

- 38 titles on HC, 4th best in history.

- 399 match wins on Hard, 7th most in history.

- 3rd best winning percentage on outdoor HC in history.

- 43 Match Wins Streaks, 5th best in history.

- He has most consecutive wins on each type of HC after TMF.

- In 2012, he had 24 top 10 wins, wich is the most in a single season along with Nadal. 24 top ten wins in 2013 aswell.

- 4 WTFs, 5th most. 5 Semi-finals, 9th most. 4 finals, 8th most in history.

Masters

- 20 Masters titles (from 1970-present), 4th most in history. 30 finals, 4th most in history. 43 Semi-Finals, 4th in History.

- 228 match wins in Masters events, 5th most in history. 5th best match record with 80.26%.

- 15 Master Titles on HC, 2nd most in history. 5 Master titles on clay, 9th most in history.

- Most M1000 titles in a single season, shares the first place with Nadal, Connors and Laver.

- 132 weeks at number one, 7th most in history.

- 2nd on the list with most Prize Money earned, behind TMF.

If you don't appriciate my effort of making this list and find it annoying cause it makes djoko look good, then don't bother! I think this is interesting for some. I presented this mostly for the Djokovic Fans.
 
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He is a plexicushion specialist. won 5 of his 8 slams at the AO.

Nadal is a claycourt specialist who won 9 of his 14 slams at RG.
 
Fiji said:
He is a plexicushion specialist. won 5 of his 8 slams at the AO.

Nadal is a claycourt specialist who won 9 of his 14 slams at RG.
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Yes he is, but he is an example of an All-Court Player, a versatile player. These records above shows.
 
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I called this last year and it's gaining steam now but Djokovic might finish with a better resume than Nadal, really "only" needing to win 3 more Slams at the other events.

His semifinal and quarter steaks are Federer-esque.

Theoretically if he just won those 3 Slams:

AO: 5-0
FO: 1-2
WMB: 3-1
USO: 2-4

With over 200 weeks at #1 and possibly 5 year end #1.

That would hold weight over Nadal's 3 year ends and 140 weeks with the following breakdown:

AO: 1-2
FO: 10-0
WMB: 2-3
USO: 2-1
 
BGod said:
I called this last year and it's gaining steam now but Djokovic might finish with a better resume than Nadal, really "only" needing to win 3 more Slams at the other events.

His semifinal and quarter steaks are Federer-esque.

Theoretically if he just won those 3 Slams:

AO: 5-0
FO: 1-2
WMB: 3-1
USO: 2-4

With over 200 weeks at #1 and possibly 5 year end #1.

That would hold weight over Nadal's 3 year ends and 140 weeks with the following breakdown:

AO: 1-2
FO: 10-0
WMB: 2-3
USO: 2-1
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I have been on this too that Djoko can pass Nadal in overall achievements and records. Djokovic is far more versatile.
 
RF-18 said:
I have been on this too that Djoko can pass Nadal in overall achievements and records. Djokovic is far more versatile.
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Really in that scenario the only big argument for Nadal would be the 10 French Opens but the clay season just doesn't have the same competition and if we're looking at a 4 Slam difference, surely 100 more weeks as #1 closes that in no?
 
RF-18 said:
Looking at his records across the different surfaces, you get a good view of how great Djokovic has become and that he is indeed worth mentioning on the greatest of all time players.
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Great player, but I was chuckling when I saw:

'Slam Records'
'Greatest of all time players'

and then a huge list of extremely specific achievements where he was like 7th and above...

Ex. 8th best 2HBH player who was right handed, above 6 feet, and had black hair.
 
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Novak is a top five player for me in the open era. However he should not rest on his laurels, more work is needed to be done. He needs 3 - 5 slams more including a career grand slam and he also needs one cincinnati title to claim the career masters. These two and more titles on his WTF resume will lead him to just edge out Sampras in my opinion. He cannot catch Nadal in terms of GS titles but he can add enough to be considered one of three all time great players.
 
BGod said:
if we're looking at a 4 Slam difference, surely 100 more weeks as #1 closes that in no?
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LOL hardly. 100 weeks at #1 might be worth about 1 slam. A good example of that, the best of all in fact, is Caroline Wozniacki. Wozniacki has something like 75 weeks at #1. Her career is viewed as inferior by many to even 1 slam winners like Stosur and Bartoli, who also have 15-20 less tournament wins as well. Her career meanwhile is viewed as light years inferior to Na Li and Petra Kvitova who have 2 slams, but haven't event spent a single week at #1.
 
Zain786 said:
Novak is a top five player for me in the open era. However he should not rest on his laurels, more work is needed to be done. He needs 3 - 5 slams more including a career grand slam and he also needs one cincinnati title to claim the career masters. These two and more titles on his WTF resume will lead him to just edge out Sampras in my opinion. He cannot catch Nadal in terms of GS titles but he can add enough to be considered one of three all time great players.
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I agree completely that he needs that.
 
spencerjudd said:
LOL hardly. 100 weeks at #1 might be worth about 1 slam. A good example of that, the best of all in fact, is Caroline Wozniacki. Wozniacki has something like 75 weeks at #1. Her career is viewed as inferior by many to even 1 slam winners like Stosur and Bartoli, who also have 15-20 less tournament wins as well. Her career meanwhile is viewed as light years inferior to Na Li and Petra Kvitova who have 2 slams, but haven't event spent a single week at #1.
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That's not really a viable argument when viewing 5+ Slam winners though.

Lleyton Hewitt was #1 for a total 80 weeks with 2 Slams, but Jim Courier gets higher ranking due to the 4-2 in Slam Finals despite 22 less weeks at #1. Sure that makes sense and goes with your argument.

However how far does Boris Becker's resume get him with only 12 weeks at #1 and three #2 year ends? He got 6 Slams AND 3 Tour Finals. McEnroe got 3 Tour Finals and 7 Slams, but the comparison isn't anywhere near close because McEnroe spent 170 weeks at #1.

Consequently, Edberg who was actually Boris' main rival, won the same number of Slams and 2 less Tour Finals but with 60 more weeks at #1 tends to get more votes (although I don't quite know how much more, will post poll shortly).


100 weeks=1 Slam is an arbitrary assessment. Typically it doesn't come into play much because the guy with more weeks at #1 usually has more Slams. Recently however, you have a 14-time Slam champion in Nadal who has 141 weeks at #1 and probably going to be stuck there even if he extended that Slam count. Ivan Lendl meanwhile spent 270 weeks at #1. Is Rafael Nadal definitively ahead of Lendl? You're looking at probably 80%+ saying he is, but that is more with the 6 Slam difference than the weeks at #1 not mattering.

When Nadal was sitting at 102 weeks at #1 with 12 Slams before he won the U.S. Open to have 2 at a 3rd venue, the conversation was still split. By your logic the 4 Slams would have been enough to easily surpass Lendl's 168 weeks.



I think it's more about the percentages and based on tiers like so:

With 0 Slams
80 Weeks at #1

With 1 Slam
70 Weeks at #1

With 2 Slams
50 Weeks at #1

With 3-4 Slams
40 Weeks at #1

5-7 Slams
30 Weeks at #1

8+ Slams
25 Weeks at #1


Guys like Boris Becker, Wilander, Hewitt and Murray are outliers. So that's why the formula has to change in accordance to how many titles you accumulate. Because when you're looking at a player who has 10 Slams and one who has 8, that a 25% difference, so if the 8 Slam player has 50% more weeks at #1, it matters more than a guy who has 20% Slams of a player who has 100 less weeks than him.

Some examples:

Nadal 14 Slams to Lendl 8=75% difference.
Lendl 270 weeks to Nadal 141=91% difference.

Add in Lendl's 5-0 Tour Finals titles and I still rank Lendl ahead of Nadal. But of course people like yourself will just look at Slam tally.
 
RF-18 said:
I have been on this too that Djoko can pass Nadal in overall achievements and records. Djokovic is far more versatile.
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Are you ever able to use objectivity in your posts or all you can do is praise Djokovic all the time and talk like he is the greatest human being walking God's green Earth?

Not to mention how stupid you look when somebody uses logic and sense against you and you either don't respond or continue to believe in your illogical sayings.

You're a fanboy, mate. Not a fan :)
 
Great list OP.
I can appreciate that some of those records are amazing, especially considering the competition he has faced.

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- On grass (wimbledon), he has the fourth highest winning percentage in history.
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Wow.
I mean, this is a guy who I have never really thought is that great at Wimbledon. :lol: :oops:
One could say this is due to slow grass/homogenized era, but that isn't Novak's fault I have to admit.
I like it.

There you go, not a hater. :)
 
vanioMan said:
Are you ever able to use objectivity in your posts or all you can do is praise Djokovic all the time and talk like he is the greatest human being walking God's green Earth?

Not to mention how stupid you look when somebody uses logic and sense against you and you either don't respond or continue to believe in your illogical sayings.

You're a fanboy, mate. Not a fan :)
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But I do believe he can pass nadal in overall achievements. He has already passed him in weeks at number one and year ends, those are two very important records that determines greatness, along with him also having 4 more WTFs. And there is several other things he has passed him but lets not get into that.

Right now nadal has 6 more slams, and other great records. He is ahead but if Djokovic can close that gap in slams then I dont see what nadal has got to brag with anymore. And slams aren't everything.

Just look at fed. He has 17 slams, 3 ahead of nadal, but that isnt entirely what makes People rate him as the greatest. It's also because of his overall resume wich is just so crushing.
 
Firstservingman said:
Great list OP.
I can appreciate that some of those records are amazing, especially considering the competition he has faced.

Wow.
I mean, this is a guy who I have never really thought is that great at Wimbledon. :lol: :oops:
One could say this is due to slow grass/homogenized era, but that isn't Novak's fault I have to admit.
I like it.

There you go, not a hater. :)
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But he met other players who were suited for these slower conditions: Federer, Murray and Nadal. I do agree that he would have less success on a faster grass.

But likewise, Sampras met players who were suited for the quick conditions (Becker, Ivanisevic) and would have met with less success had he played on the current grass.

The current grass is as legitimate as the old grass, and success on it is as legitimate too.
 
Just a little buffer for these stats:

Winning percentages are useless right now, as they will begin to fall when Djokovic declines and loses more as a result. Winning percentage as a stat only is useful once said player's career is over and even then we need to analyze how long (past and before his prime) he played.
 
RF-18 said:
Looking at his records across the different surfaces, you get a good view of how great Djokovic has become and that he is indeed worth mentioning on the greatest of all time players.

Slam Records

- On HC slams, Djokovic has the 2nd highest (sampras just behind) winning percentage after the number one Federer, but it seperates them 0.02%!

- On clay/RG, Djokovic has the 7th highest winning percentage, more than fed for example.

- On grass (wimbledon), he has the fourth highest winning percentage in history.

- He has 15 GS finals, 6th most in history. 25 semi-finals, and 31 quarters, placing him in the 5th position. He has also along with federer the most consecutive quarters and semi finals across the slams.

- In AO, Djokovic is the 2nd with most consecutive wins, with 25, after agassi who has 26.

- He has 187 match wins in Grand Slams, 7th most in history. 4 behind Nadal.

- His match record in percentages in slams is 85%, 5th best in history.

- 4 consecutive GS finals, 4th most in history.

- 5 finals in AO, most in history with Federer and Edberg.

- 5 finals at USO, 5th best in history.

- Nobody has 3 consecutive titles in AO as Djokovic

- 8 GS titles, 5th most in history.

All Tournaments

- 130 wins against top 10, 2nd most in history after TMF.

- 38 titles on HC, 4th best in history.

- 399 match wins on Hard, 7th most in history.

- 3rd best winning percentage on outdoor HC in history.

- 43 Match Wins Streaks, 5th best in history.

- He has most consecutive wins on each type of HC after TMF.

- In 2012, he had 24 top 10 wins, wich is the most in a single season along with Nadal. 24 top ten wins in 2013 aswell.

- 4 WTFs, 5th most. 5 Semi-finals, 9th most. 4 finals, 8th most in history.

Masters

- 20 Masters titles (from 1970-present), 4th most in history. 30 finals, 4th most in history. 43 Semi-Finals, 4th in History.

- 228 match wins in Masters events, 5th most in history. 5th best match record with 80.26%.

- 15 Master Titles on HC, 2nd most in history. 5 Master titles on clay, 9th most in history.

- Most M1000 titles in a single season, shares the first place with Nadal, Connors and Laver.

- 132 weeks at number one, 7th most in history.

- 2nd on the list with most Prize Money earned, behind TMF.

If you don't appriciate my effort of making this list and find it annoying cause it makes djoko look good, then don't bother! I think this is interesting for some. I presented this mostly for the Djokovic Fans.
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I appreciate the effort you took to make Novak look good, but let's get serious here.

Slam percentages on hard court? Some difference in matches played, I'd say.

100-15 and 147-22 for Djokovic and Federer respectively.

Better winning percentage than Federer at the FO?

Well yeah having won 42 out of 52 matches in contrast to Federer's 61 out of 76, I am sure Djokovic is happy to have almost 3 RG titles worth fewer wins.

Match record percentage in Slams? Not really important when the grand total of Slam matches played is less than the number won by others.

Percentages in Masters is really irrelevant in this context because, and we need to keep reminding you youngsters, Masters weren't this hip back in the day.

So in closing, I am sorry for being at work and too lazy to disembowel this list completely.
 
Russeljones said:
I appreciate the effort you took to make Novak look good, but let's get serious here.

Slam percentages on hard court? Some difference in matches played, I'd say.

100-15 and 147-22 for Djokovic and Federer respectively.

Better winning percentage than Federer at the FO?

Well yeah having won 42 out of 52 matches in contrast to Federer's 61 out of 76, I am sure Djokovic is happy to have almost 3 RG titles worth fewer wins.

Match record percentage in Slams? Not really important when the grand total of Slam matches played is less than the number won by others.

Percentages in Masters is really irrelevant in this context because, and we need to keep reminding you youngsters, Masters weren't this hip back in the day.

So in closing, I am sorry for being at work and too lazy to disembowel this list completely.
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Up until now, his stats/records are like this. Some heavy numbers in that list wich I don't think many expected.

All of those stats are important.
 
RF-18 said:
Up until now, his stats/records are like this. Some heavy numbers in that list wich I don't think many expected.

All of those stats are important.
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The caveat here is that you want to show what someone has achieved but use ambiguous metrics (win %). This says you have an agenda. If you want to list achievements and let people make their mind up, then list the achievements as they are, matches won, lost etc.
 
Russeljones said:
The caveat here is that you want to show what someone has achieved but use ambiguous metrics (win %). This says you have an agenda. If you want to list achievements and let people make their mind up, then list the achievements as they are, matches won, lost etc.
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Oh stop being so pedantic Russel. Just because you dislike Djokovic doesn't mean you can't be impressed with some of the stats he's compiled over the years. :rolleyes:
 
Russeljones said:
The caveat here is that you want to show what someone has achieved but use ambiguous metrics (win %). This says you have an agenda. If you want to list achievements and let people make their mind up, then list the achievements as they are, matches won, lost etc.
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As I said, stats are there. Win percentage reflects on amount of matches won. And you know how long Djokovic has been on the tour and how much he has played.
 
Noleberic123 said:
Do people actually believe all of the sudden he could become greater than nadal? :lol:
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It's not just because of one Slam but every Slam closer to Nadal makes the argument more viable.

He will certainly finish with more weeks ranked #1 as well as his consistency with more semifinals+
 
BGod said:
It's not just because of one Slam but every Slam closer to Nadal makes the argument more viable.

He will certainly finish with more weeks ranked #1 as well as his consistency with more semifinals+
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I just realized djokovic isn't as far away from nadal as I thought he was. Maybe its just because im starting to pay attention to it now that djokovic has sort of conquered his mental demons in slams.
 
That record of winning at least 3 Masters 1000 titles in 4 consecutive seasons that he shares with Nadal is something I've really got my eye on him breaking this year. And if he stays healthy there's no reason why he shouldn't be able to achieve it.
 
Djokovic2011 said:
That record of winning at least 3 Masters 1000 titles in 4 consecutive seasons that he shares with Nadal is something I've really got my eye on him breaking this year. And if he stays healthy there's no reason why he shouldn't be able to achieve it.
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He can definetly do it. He is great in Masters!
 
Andre Agassi considers that Federer, Nadal and Djokovic "may very well be the greatest three players to ever play tennis". Rod Laver chose Djokovic as number 6 in his top ten male players of the Open Era. International Business Times puts him in the seventh place in the men's greatest players of all time list. He is "probably a top eight player in tennis history" according to Tim Henman.

http://m.thepostgame.com/blog/men-action/201209/andre-agassi-us-open-court-champions
(Agassi in mid 2012)

http://m.heraldsun.com.au/archive/old-sport-pages/photos-fn77kxzt-1226250654969?page=17
(This was lavers list back when Djokovic had 4 majors! Wonder what he thinks now.)

http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/ten...y-murray-wont-worry-over-critics-7876173.html
(This was also said by henman back in 2012)

Djokovic, storming for Greatness.
 
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Other records

2009 - Longest best-of-three tiebreak sets singles match (by duration) vs. Rafael Nadal[f][284] Rafael Nadal
2007 Youngest player to defeat the top 3 players in succession - Stands alone
2011 - 5 consecutive match wins against world No. 1 player in finals (Rafael Nadal)[g][285] - Stands alone
2007–2010 4 years ended at No. 3 - Players Matched Jimmy Connors
2007–2010 4 consecutive years ended at No. 3 - Stands alone
2012–2013 Won 24 matches vs. top 10 opponents in 1 season - Players Matched Rafael Nadal
2011–2013 3 consecutive years winning 20+ matches vs. top 10 opponents - Stands Alone
 
Grand Slam tournaments

2010 US Open — 2013 US Open 7 consecutive hard court finals - Stands alone
2007 French Open — 2008 Australian Open Youngest player to reach the semi-finals of all 4 Majors (20 years, 250 days old) - Stands alone
2007 French Open — 2008 Australian Open Youngest player to reach all 4 Majors semi-finals consecutively -Stands alone
2012 Australian Open Longest final (by duration) vs. Rafael Nadal[281][282] Rafael Nadal
Australian Open 2008–2015 5 titles overall - Stands alone
Australian Open 2011–2013 3 consecutive titles - Stands alone
Australian Open 2008–2015 5 finals overall Players Matched - Stefan Edberg, Roger Federer

Australian Open 2011–2013 3 consecutive finals - Players Matched Mats Wilander Ivan Lendl
US Open 2012 Longest final (by duration) vs. Andy Murray[c][283] Players matched - Andy Murray
US Open 2012 Longest tiebreak (by points – 22) vs. Andy Murray[283] Players matched - Andy Murray

Year-End Championship records

2011 Qualified the earliest – 18 weeks, 6 days - Stands alone
2012–2014 3 consecutive titles - Players Matched Ilie Năstase Ivan Lendl
2012–2014 14 consecutive match wins - Players matched Ivan Lendl Roger Federer

ATP Masters 1000 records

2009 Longest best-of-three sets singles match (by duration) vs. Rafael Nadal[e][284] Rafael Nadal
2011 5 titles in 1 season - Players Matched -Rafael Nadal
2011, 2012 6 finals in 1 season - Players matched Roger Federer Rafael Nadal
2007–2012 9 different finals reached - Players matched Roger Federer Rafael Nadal
2007–2013 8 different titles Stands alone
2011 31 consecutive match wins Stands alone
2013–2014 4 consecutive Masters 1000 titles - Players Matched Rafael Nadal
2012–2013 2 Shanghai Masters titles overall Players Matched - Andy Murray
2012–2013 2 consecutive Shanghai Masters titles - Players matched Andy Murray
2011–2014 4 consecutive years winning 3+ titles Players matched - Rafael Nadal
2011, 2013–2014 2 streaks of 3 consecutive Masters 1000 titles - Players matched Rafael Nadal
2013–2014 2 consecutive Paris Masters titles Stands alone
2009, 2013–2014 3 Paris Masters titles overall Players matched - Boris Becker Marat Safin

Other records

2009 - Longest best-of-three tiebreak sets singles match (by duration) vs. Rafael Nadal[f][284] Rafael Nadal
2007 Youngest player to defeat the top 3 players in succession - Stands alone
2011 - 5 consecutive match wins against world No. 1 player in finals (Rafael Nadal)[g][285] - Stands alone
2007–2010 4 years ended at No. 3 - Players Matched Jimmy Connors
2007–2010 4 consecutive years ended at No. 3 - Stands alone
2012–2013 Won 24 matches vs. top 10 opponents in 1 season - Players Matched Rafael Nadal
2011–2013 3 consecutive years winning 20+ matches vs. top 10 opponents - Stands Alone

Just amazing what this guy has done. For me its impossible to not admire the guy considering the top players he has been matched with. Amazing Djoko!
 
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Nole is a top five player, for him to overtake sampras and join Nadal and Federer he needs to win at least 3/4 more slams including RG and a 6th Aussie open. Along with the slams he will need to win Cincinnati masters to win all masters series, this will give him a versatile list as the only player to win all grand slams and masters 1000 titles. Addition to this, winning two more WTF titles will add his final tally to 6 and he is all set. However, easier said than done and lets take one day at a time. You never know in sport. Wawrinka, Nishikori, Murray, Nadal they will make it tougher for Nole that is for sure.
 
Zain786 said:
Nole is a top five player, for him to overtake sampras and join Nadal and Federer he needs to win at least 3/4 more slams including RG and a 6th Aussie open. Along with the slams he will need to win Cincinnati masters to win all masters series, this will give him a versatile list as the only player to win all grand slams and masters 1000 titles. Addition to this, winning two more WTF titles will add his final tally to 6 and he is all set. However, easier said than done and lets take one day at a time. You never know in sport. Wawrinka, Nishikori, Murray, Nadal they will make it tougher for Nole that is for sure.
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Thats the part that gets me. Its so versatile and all round.
 
RF-18 said:
Andre Agassi considers that Federer, Nadal and Djokovic "may very well be the greatest three players to ever play tennis". Rod Laver chose Djokovic as number 6 in his top ten male players of the Open Era. International Business Times puts him in the seventh place in the men's greatest players of all time list. He is "probably a top eight player in tennis history" according to Tim Henman.

http://m.thepostgame.com/blog/men-action/201209/andre-agassi-us-open-court-champions
(Agassi in mid 2012)

http://m.heraldsun.com.au/archive/old-sport-pages/photos-fn77kxzt-1226250654969?page=17
(This was lavers list back when Djokovic had 4 majors! Wonder what he thinks now.)

http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/ten...y-murray-wont-worry-over-critics-7876173.html
(This was also said by henman back in 2012)

Djokovic, storming for Greatness.
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Most of the statements like that are said or written just to stir things up and increase the popularity of the game.
Mcenroe was screaming that Federer is the GOAT as early as US open 2004 :lol:
 
Zain786 said:
Nole is a top five player, for him to overtake sampras and join Nadal and Federer he needs to win at least 3/4 more slams including RG and a 6th Aussie open. Along with the slams he will need to win Cincinnati masters to win all masters series, this will give him a versatile list as the only player to win all grand slams and masters 1000 titles. Addition to this, winning two more WTF titles will add his final tally to 6 and he is all set. However, easier said than done and lets take one day at a time. You never know in sport. Wawrinka, Nishikori, Murray, Nadal they will make it tougher for Nole that is for sure.
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Winning 3 or 4 more slams certainly wouldn't put him on the same level as Federer :lol:. Nadal is debatable (He'll need 12 or 13 slams to be in ghe conversation with him)
 
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