Djokovic Is 9-0 Against Fritz.

[Better_Call_Raul]

Fritz is the best American player. ATP Top 10. A great player. No doubt about it.
But he is not quite yet in the elite class... And Fritz may never be unless he makes major changes to his game.
Including his awkward court movement. The QF set 2-4 was just very painful to watch.

 

[atatu]

Impressive, he's also 8/0 vs. Shapovalov, 7/0 against Hurkacz, 5/0 against Mannarino, 5/0 against Ruud, 10/2 vs. Isner, 12/1 against Dimitrov, and 21/6 against Stan.
edit: 19-0 vs. Monfils !

 

[Tshooter]

American men have been second/third rate since Pete retired. To compound it, they all have fugly strokes. American women are an entirely different story with many excellent players over the same time period including some great champions and prospects for more.

 

[atatu]

American men have been second/third rate since Pete retired. To compound it, they all have fugly strokes. American women is an entirely different story with many excellent players over the same time period including some great champions and prospects for more.

I don't see how Fritz has ugly strokes at all, especially compared to someone like Medvedev, who does fine. People love to criticize Coco's strokes too but she's doing ok.

 

[Tshooter]

I don't see how Fritz has ugly strokes at all, especially compared to someone like Medvedev, who does fine. People love to criticize Coco's strokes too but she's doing ok.

Well it’s in the eye of the beholder but I find his strokes foul. Not a dig at him personally — just the look of his strokes. Except his serve which i find fluid. Meds are so bizarre I kinda like watching them.

 

[Sport]

Impressive, he's also 8/0 vs. Shapovalov, 7/0 against Hurkacz, 5/0 against Mannarino, 5/0 against Ruud, 10/2 vs. Isner, 12/1 against Dimitrov, and 21/6 against Stan.
edit: 19-0 vs. Monfils !

Shapovalov joke is.

 

[big ted]

based on history, once a quarterfinalist, always a quarterfinalist

 

[Tshooter]

based on history, once a quarterfinalist, always a quarterfinalist

 

[tennis_error]

Shapovalov joke is.

Nadal wasn't laughing when he was playing against Shap

 

[weakera]

Nadal wasn't laughing when he was playing against Shap

Nadal is actually a great example of why shapovalov is a joke. He beat Denis while battling back diarrhea and heat stroke and hobbling around the court like an old man.

 

[tennis_error]

Nadal is actually a great example of why shapovalov is a joke. He beat Denis while battling back diarrhea and heat stroke and hobbling around the court like an old man.

If you ever watched their matches you would know how dangerous opponent Shapovalov was for Nadal, showed by their h2h (4-2 Nadal), including clay.

Diarrhea? Will add that to endless list of poor "never beaten when heathy, no" Nadal troubles, lolol ..

 

[AnOctorokForDinner]

Fritz is a limited player who lacks movement and stamina to be at the top.

 

[big ted]

its hard for any 0 GS champion to compete with a 24 time GS champion

 

[weakera]

If you ever watched their matches you would know how dangerous opponent Shapovalov was for Nadal, showed by their h2h (4-2 Nadal), including clay.

Diarrhea? Will add that to endless list of poor "never beaten when heathy, no" Nadal troubles, lolol ..

I've seen all of their matches and each one in some sense contributed to my awareness of Shapovalov being a joke lol

 

[junior74]

Good, not great. Poor movement by top 10 standards.

 

[djokovic the conqueror]

Djokovic owns Americans whereas Nadal is owned by Americans.

 

[Better_Call_Raul]

Good, not great. Poor movement by top 10 standards.

His height is wonderful for his serve and his volley but it is a movement liability.
Very few 6'6" players move well. Medvedev might be one of the best big guy movers.
Fritz often moves like a bull elephant. QF Match was just not pretty to watch.
Tsitsipas Djokovic QF would have been a lot more interesting.

 

[Crocodile]

I just think that the tour is a very competitive and insanely high standard of professional sport.
There are probably a lot of players that have negative lopsided win/loss record against the big 3 - that’s just the way it is.
If you can imagine - the guys who are in and around the era of the big 3, it’s a tough gig.
It will be interesting to see how the tour balances itself out once Novak stops playing and Rafa plays his last game.
If we are thinking Carlos, Jannick, Hubert, Taylor, Alexander, Ben, Holger, Danil, Casper, Alex, etc ( I have probably missed a few and there could be others rising up) being a core group of players around 2025, it will be interesting to see how their head to heads balance out.

 

[kevin qmto]

Well it’s in the eye of the beholder but I find his strokes foul. Not a dig at him personally — just the look of his strokes. Except his serve which i find fluid. Meds are so bizarre I kinda like watching them.

I’m allergic to whatever meds strokes are.

 

[Jonesy]

Impressive, he's also 8/0 vs. Shapovalov, 7/0 against Hurkacz, 5/0 against Mannarino, 5/0 against Ruud, 10/2 vs. Isner, 12/1 against Dimitrov, and 21/6 against Stan.
edit: 19-0 vs. Monfils !

12-0 vs Raonic, 13-1 vs Gasquet, 19-2 vs Cilic, 25-3 vs Berdych.

 

[tennis24x7]

His height is wonderful for his serve and his volley but it is a movement liability.
Very few 6'6" players move well. Medvedev might be one of the best big guy movers.
Fritz often moves like a bull elephant. QF Match was just not pretty to watch.
Tsitsipas Djokovic QF would have been a lot more interesting.

Zvevrev is right up with Medvedev. Fritz is pretty bad at movement

 

[Lauren_Girl']

Impressive, he's also 8/0 vs. Shapovalov, 7/0 against Hurkacz, 5/0 against Mannarino, 5/0 against Ruud, 10/2 vs. Isner, 12/1 against Dimitrov, and 21/6 against Stan.
edit: 19-0 vs. Monfils !

33 sets to 0 against Chardy... another all-time record. No one ever won the 33 opening (consecutive) sets in any other H2H...

You forgot a lot of players... Raonic, Nishikori, Dimitrov, Cilic... and so many others have a disastrous H2H against him. This assertion is true for Federer and Nadal as well, though. Nadal is 18-0 against Gasquet, Federer is 18-0 against Ferrer and Youzhny,...

 

[kevaninho]

Fritz is the best American player. ATP Top 10. A great player. No doubt about it.
But he is not quite yet in the elite class... And Fritz may never be unless he makes major changes to his game.
Including his awkward court movement. The QF set 2-4 was just very painful to watch.

So tell us, what major changes can a player , who will be 27 this year, make to his game ?

 

[tennis_pro]

21/6 against Stan.

But like 5-5 in the Slams or something.

 

[mike danny]

I just think that the tour is a very competitive and insanely high standard of professional sport.

Are we watching the same sport?

 

[atatu]

33 sets to 0 against Chardy... another all-time record. No one ever won the 33 opening (consecutive) sets in any other H2H...

You forgot a lot of players... Raonic, Nishikori, Dimitrov, Cilic... and so many others have a disastrous H2H against him. This assertion is true for Federer and Nadal as well, though. Nadal is 18-0 against Gasquet, Federer is 18-0 against Ferrer and Youzhny,...

Yeah, I didn't have the energy to research every player so I just focused on whoever popped into mind.

 

[Better_Call_Raul]

So tell us, what major changes can a player , who will be 27 this year, make to his game ?

"Major changes" is all relative. Fritz is already Top 10 in the world.
But he cannot hang with Djoker in the rallies. Must improve footwork, movement, fitness and shot selection to stand a better chance against Djoker .
Regardless of whether he ever beats Djoker or not, Fritz is still relatively young and has room to improve against NextGen still; he has not yet peaked.

 

[naylor73]

Taylor does not recover fast enough when being moved around and he lacks true balance in this situation. He has the weapons to win majors, just needs to get his fitness to the next level.

 

[toth]

And 24 times GS champion against 0..

 

[Mainad]

American men have been second/third rate since Pete retired. To compound it, they all have fugly strokes. American women are an entirely different story with many excellent players over the same time period including some great champions and prospects for more.

Some respect for Roddick who won the home Slam and became world #1!

 

[Crocodile]

Are we watching the same sport?

I don’t know - are you suggesting that pro
Tennis is not at a high standard ?

 

[Break To Win]

Fritz = Brainless Ballbasher

 

[Ray Mercer]

Fritz has below average movement for a professional. With slowed down conditions and modern technology tennis is a pushers paradise and has become a game of who can keep the ball in play the longest. Movement is arguably the most important aspect of the game.

 

[mike danny]

I don’t know - are you suggesting that pro
Tennis is not at a high standard ?

It depends what you mean. In terms of professionalism and ways to take care of your body, yes, tennis has improved massively.

In terms of stars at the top of the game? Not really.

 

[TMF]

American men have been second/third rate since Pete retired. To compound it, they all have fugly strokes. American women are an entirely different story with many excellent players over the same time period including some great champions and prospects for more.

That's because the top American athletes chose to play other sport rather than tennis. Having a choice, they rather be a baseball, NFL, basketball, hockey, soccer player because the sport is more rewarding.

 

[TMF]

Djokovic owns Americans whereas Nadal is owned by Americans.

Roddick who's the last great American owns Djokovic

 

[Aestheticsaboveallelse]

Fritz has below average movement for a professional. With slowed down conditions and modern technology tennis is a pushers paradise and has become a game of who can keep the ball in play the longest. Movement is arguably the most important aspect of the game.

Sums up Djokovics success so well lol... I know he's not purely a pusher but hes the best pusher

 

[Better_Call_Raul]

Sums up Djokovics success so well lol... I know he's not purely a pusher but hes the best pusher

It is called counterpunching, not pushing.
Our Djoker can play all styles. He can be a counterpuncher. And he also can rip the greatest forehand in the world.
Just sit back, relax and enjoy the GOAT. We will not see his likes ever again.

 

[Fintft]

It is called counterpunching, not pushing.
Our Djoker can play all styles. He can be a counterpuncher. And he also can rip the greatest forehand in the world.
Just sit back, relax and enjoy the GOAT. We will not see his likes ever again.

Nah, he can't really rip his FH, at least not like Fritz who won all their FH exchanges and most of the long points.

 

[Better_Call_Raul]

Nah, he can't really rip his FH, at least not like Fritz who won all their FH exchanges and most of the long points.

Anyone can rip a forehand. It means nothing if the forehand is not consistent over an entire match.
This is why Fritz could only win one set off Djoker.
Nobody on the planet would choose to have a Fritz forehand over the Djoker's FH.
Djoker's FH is widely considered to be the best ever. Better than Fed. Better than Rafa.

 

[a10best]

Fritz wants to avoid playing him again so he's not in the double digits like Monfis.

 

[Mustard]

But like 5-5 in the Slams or something.

21-6 to Djokovic overall and 5-4 to Djokovic in the majors. In the majors, Djokovic won their matches at the 2012 US Open, 2013 Australian Open, 2013 US Open, 2015 Australian Open and 2023 Wimbledon, while Wawrinka won their matches at the 2014 Australian Open, 2015 French Open, 2016 US Open and 2019 US Open.

 

[mavsman149]

based on history, once a quarterfinalist, always a quarterfinalist

Rublev??!!

 

[atatu]

Rublev??!!

See post #8 above

 

[mavsman149]

See post #8 above

Lol I missed the Rublev hair cat

 

[Fintft]

Anyone can rip a forehand. It means nothing if the forehand is not consistent over an entire match.
This is why Fritz could only win one set off Djoker.
Nobody on the planet would choose to have a Fritz forehand over the Djoker's FH.
Djoker's FH is widely considered to be the best ever. Better than Fed. Better than Rafa.

Lol you are such a fanboy.
Again Fritz won ALL FH exchanges and most of the long rallies.
Juker didn't beat him by having a better FH, imo.

 

[vokazu]

But Fritz beat Nadal in Indian Wells Final while carrying foot injury. Djokovic must be a much tougher opponent then.

 

[Aestheticsaboveallelse]

Anyone can rip a forehand. It means nothing if the forehand is not consistent over an entire match.
This is why Fritz could only win one set off Djoker.
Nobody on the planet would choose to have a Fritz forehand over the Djoker's FH.
Djoker's FH is widely considered to be the best ever. Better than Fed. Better than Rafa.

Even most Djokovic fans don't think he has a better forehand than Federer lmao... its all about backhand

 

[I Am Finnish]

Fritz is the best American player. ATP Top 10. A great player. No doubt about it.
But he is not quite yet in the elite class... And Fritz may never be unless he makes major changes to his game.
Including his awkward court movement. The QF set 2-4 was just very painful to watch.

What it tell us?

 

[NeutralFan]

Anyone can rip a forehand. It means nothing if the forehand is not consistent over an entire match.
This is why Fritz could only win one set off Djoker.
Nobody on the planet would choose to have a Fritz forehand over the Djoker's FH.
Djoker's FH is widely considered to be the best ever. Better than Fed. Better than Rafa.

Lmao