Take away a 3 slam stretch from 2011W to 2012 AO, and he's won 3 AO's in his career in which his main rival was injured/sick (fed mono in 08, rafa hamstring in 11, nadal out in 2013). So pitiful that in the past 8 slams he's won 1 of them in the middle of his prime, in comparison, Murray has won 2 of the past 8 slams and even old man federer has managed to win 1 of the past 8 slams. Pitiful player, who essentially had 1 legendary season and a couple fluke years in his career. Where did he go after 2011?
Djokovic is a 1-year wonder
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Fed881981
Hall of Fame
That's an exaggeration, of course.
But, you got to think that something is wrong. He lost too many important matches to Nadal, Fed and Murray since January 2011.
He will win few more slams, but I now started to think that getting to 12 or so will be very difficult. He needs a great run for that to happen.
But, you got to think that something is wrong. He lost too many important matches to Nadal, Fed and Murray since January 2011.
He will win few more slams, but I now started to think that getting to 12 or so will be very difficult. He needs a great run for that to happen.
5555
Hall of Fame
Is Andre Agassi a 1-year wonder?
FrontHeadlock
Hall of Fame
He's had a nice career, but it's true that his cache rides on that one 7 month stretch from July 2011 to January 2012.
monfed
Banned
Laver, Federer, Sampras, Djokovic are all transitional champs who won their Slams only cause Nadal wasn't there.
Take away Fred's and Laver's RG cause they didn't play Ralph. :lol:
Mike Sams
G.O.A.T.
True but Nadal was always the favourite to win RG. Plus I'm sure Djokovic will maintain his high level of play for the next 3 years and be a prime candidate to win every Slam he enters. He'll probably retire with under 10 Slams. AO is still his best bet. It took god-mode Wawrinka to stop him. The same Wawrinka who made in-form Nadal say "Uncle" in the first set before the back injury. :neutral:
Antonio Puente
Hall of Fame
I see the Nadal posse are out in full force with their smear campaign.
Regardless of what is motivating it, it's true. Without 2011, Djoker would have the reputation of early Murray - racking up points in Masters and whatnot, failing in slams. Let's say Djoker doesn't win one of the next two slams. If Murray went through a nearly two year period where he won every Masters in sight, but choked in countless slam finals, what would be said about him?
Mike Sams
G.O.A.T.
Djokovic can still retire as the Masters record-holder. He can bag 2-3 more Masters this year. :lol:
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Nathaniel_Near
Guest
1 of the last 9, actually.
Antonio Puente
Hall of Fame
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Nathaniel_Near
Guest
It's not pointless, it's a legitimate concern that he needs to address. If he does address it then good for him, he can prove that there was nothing be to concerned about. Meanwhile, we'll discuss it, seeing as there are days to burn between tournaments etc.
I'll be supporting Nole at Wimbledon after Fed.
I'll be supporting Nole at Wimbledon after Fed.
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Nathaniel_Near
Guest
monfed
Banned
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Nathaniel_Near
Guest
What is your prescription, Dr Koora?
Sorry but that flew over my head, I'm afraid.
Bdarb
Hall of Fame
Unfortunately for you, the year 2011, did in fact occur.
What if Nadal lost his left arm to a gorrilla in a visit to a zoo.. Then I guess Borg would be the roland garros king and Fed would have 25 slams. See, I can do it too..
Antonio Puente
Hall of Fame
Yes, it did. Hence, the title "1 year wonder." No one is denying it happened.
Bdarb
Hall of Fame
Yes, and my point is there is no reason posing hypotheticals as to if that happened.. because it did. Having it happen in one year doesn't diminish his accomplishment, on the contrary I think it makes it more impressive.
Antonio Puente
Hall of Fame
On the other hand it propelled him into a league where he's now being compared to other all-time greats, and to be compared favorably he can't have a losing record in slam finals. The second he entered that league he then proceeded to win only one of the next 9 slams, even though he is winning everything else on tour and is making slam finals left and right.
dr325i
G.O.A.T.
Are you going to post the same nonsense in every thread about him??
How many times did the GOAT try to beat Nadal at the FO??? And how many times he succeeded?
You are a biased fool.
Bdarb
Hall of Fame
I agree, I just don't agree the stardom isn't warranted. One of people's main argument for Nadal as GOAT or why Fed isn't is because of their H2H. There H2H is pretty impressive (for Djok) I would say and is pretty telling imo as to the caliber player he is.
Again, I think they compared him to the likes of Aggassi etc because he deserves to be. He still has some things to do before he is imo, but he is certainly in the conversation and well on his way to doing what he has to to be there.
Dedans Penthouse
Legend
Or is he a 1 year wonder ?
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Nathaniel_Near
Guest
Djokovic has won Slams in four separate years, so I guess he's a four-year wonder.
I see the Nadal posse are out in full force with their smear campaign.
Next stop - Fed is a 17 times 1 slam wonder. :lol:
Nope, your posting is a one trick pony.
veroniquem
Bionic Poster
What on earth?
Djoko has 101 weeks at #1 (2 year ends), 44 titles, 6 slam titles (13 slam finals), 19 master titles, 3 WTF titles, 1 Olympic medal, 1 DC title.
Geez how did he fit all that in 1 season? :shock::-?
Djoko has 101 weeks at #1 (2 year ends), 44 titles, 6 slam titles (13 slam finals), 19 master titles, 3 WTF titles, 1 Olympic medal, 1 DC title.
Geez how did he fit all that in 1 season? :shock::-?
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Nathaniel_Near
Guest
It fits into 4 great seasons and a few other good ones.
veroniquem
Bionic Poster
That was an ironical question
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Nathaniel_Near
Guest
That was an ironical question
I know that, the answer wasn't for you but for the posterity of the thread. Come on now!
Djokovic2011
Bionic Poster
So Djokovic is a "pitiful player". Bit harsh don't you think? And seeing as you dislike him so much, what's the problem anyway?
Bdarb
Hall of Fame
Pitiful with arguably one of the best backhands there has been ever.
uncooling
Semi-Pro
since 2011, Djokovic didn't win any slam outside of AO.
Djokovic has won only 1 slam from FO+Wimbledon, the two most respected and important slams in tennis.
Djokovic has won only 2 slams from FO+Wimbledon+USOpen, the three most respected and important slams in tennis.
Same number as Murray.
Nadal has 11 slams from FO+Wimbledon and 13 slams from FO+Wimbledon+USOpen.
Need I say more??
Djokovic has won only 1 slam from FO+Wimbledon, the two most respected and important slams in tennis.
Djokovic has won only 2 slams from FO+Wimbledon+USOpen, the three most respected and important slams in tennis.
Same number as Murray.
Nadal has 11 slams from FO+Wimbledon and 13 slams from FO+Wimbledon+USOpen.
Need I say more??
The Green Mile
Bionic Poster
Yes, please go ahead.
veroniquem
Bionic Poster
Nadal has had plenty of seasons winning only RG. So what? Winning a slam in a season is a +, it's a positive regardless of which slam.
monfed
Banned
True on both counts!
The Green Mile
Bionic Poster
I have to admit, this is kind of a strange thread topic.
CUT THE CRAP DESHAUN!!! :lol:
DeShaun
Banned
Lol, I feel like a celebrity here, everyone seems to hate me.
On topic: I think it would be silly to expect Novak's 2011 to be repeated any time soon but hey, you never know.
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all I'm saying is that djokovic pulled one of the greatest sesasons of all time in 2011 and other than that season really hasn't replicated the form of an all time great, jesus christ, soon to be 33 year old federer has won as many slams in the past 2 years as novak in the middle of his prime has. It's really befuddling.
Noleberic123
G.O.A.T.
hes not a 1-year wonder this is ********. No one in the world could repeat 2011 again
The Green Mile
Bionic Poster
It was already bettered in 1984... not to mention several years after
Noleberic123
G.O.A.T.
but did the same player repeat that?
The Green Mile
Bionic Poster
I don't really get what you mean... No McEnroe didn't repeat it, but are implying that Djokovic did?
Noleberic123
G.O.A.T.
ok im not implying djokovic did repeat 2011 again. im saying no player has ever been able to repeat that kind of year. Djokovic will never do a 2011 again, no chance of that happening
winstonlim8
Professional
I wonder if Novak is suffering a massive letdown after 2011. Some people win ONE Slam and then go through a pretty miserable period before they learn to deal with it (think Li Na, Stan and even Federer mentioned something like that after winning his first Wimbledon, I believe.) Novak won THREE, so it might just be a humongous case of mental and emotional indigestion.
I have no doubts that Djokovic still has another 4 or 5 Slams left in him once he gets over his current troubles and learns to balance his new attacking game with his natural defensive one. Let's face it, he is not a natural volleyer or net rusher (not necessarily the same thing) nor has he been the aggressive baseliner until recently only, so I believe it's only a matter of time and getting used to working outside his comfort zone, before he starts winning again.
If anything, the way he lost the FO this year must have reinforced the lesson that he needs to be able to end points quicker, especially when he considers his age and the toll playing a grinding, retrieving style is taking on his body.
I have no doubts that Djokovic still has another 4 or 5 Slams left in him once he gets over his current troubles and learns to balance his new attacking game with his natural defensive one. Let's face it, he is not a natural volleyer or net rusher (not necessarily the same thing) nor has he been the aggressive baseliner until recently only, so I believe it's only a matter of time and getting used to working outside his comfort zone, before he starts winning again.
If anything, the way he lost the FO this year must have reinforced the lesson that he needs to be able to end points quicker, especially when he considers his age and the toll playing a grinding, retrieving style is taking on his body.
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