Djokovic is the only one, who can save men's tennis

Enceladus

Hall of Fame
Federer's chances of keeping a record in the number of GS titles are lost after the 2019 US Open final. Federer is 38 years old, the hopes of expanding his collection of GS titles are small and and Nadal thanks triumph at the US Open approached him on the difference at only one GS title. It is very unlikely that Nadal will no longer add a GS title, and on the contrary what is very likely is that Nadal will make every effort to break the Federer's record.

The only one who can prevent Nadal from setting a record in the number of GS titles for many years ahead is Djokovic. Nole has 16 GS titles, 3 less than Nadal and 4 less than Federer, but is the youngest of the Big 3. Like Rafa, Nole has the ambition to reach the GS record. Now the race about GS record is only in their hands. Who wins this race it will keep the record for many years. I estimate that Medvedev, Tsitsipas or FAA can will reach into the 5-10 GS gained titles range, but no more.

Nadal is a very divisive person on the tennis scene. At the competitive tennis forum MTF Nadal has won many times a poll 'Most Disliked Player'. Djokovic is not more popular than Nadal, but will be more acceptable to the tennis world as a GS all-time leader.
 

Tiki-Taka

Hall of Fame
The biggest rival and threat to the most liked player was voted the most disliked player on a forum poll. Surprise surprise.

Tennis will be fine, whether Djokovic or anyone else denies Nadal the record or not. Just enjoy them while they are here, we won't have players like the Big 3 again in a long time...
 

ChaelAZ

Legend
Fedal has been the reason for tennis in this era, with some other players riding the wave like Djo and Murray, or even Wawrinka. The next gen has some bright stars but the determination and focus has changed and they are as hungry for continued success so I don’t think you will see GS winners hitting the double digits for some time. They bag a GS title or two and fade to rest on their laurels the rest of the time.

Tennis doesn’t need saving, it needs some up and comers to take hold.
 

OhYes

Legend
Federer's chances of keeping a record in the number of GS titles are lost after the 2019 US Open final. Federer is 38 years old, the hopes of expanding his collection of GS titles are small and and Nadal thanks triumph at the US Open approached him on the difference at only one GS title. It is very unlikely that Nadal will no longer add a GS title, and on the contrary what is very likely is that Nadal will make every effort to break the Federer's record.

The only one who can prevent Nadal from setting a record in the number of GS titles for many years ahead is Djokovic. Nole has 16 GS titles, 3 less than Nadal and 4 less than Federer, but is the youngest of the Big 3. Like Rafa, Nole has the ambition to reach the GS record. Now the race about GS record is only in their hands. Who wins this race it will keep the record for many years. I estimate that Medvedev, Tsitsipas or FAA can will reach into the 5-10 GS gained titles range, but no more.

Nadal is a very divisive person on the tennis scene. At the competitive tennis forum MTF Nadal has won many times a poll 'Most Disliked Player'. Djokovic is not more popular than Nadal, but will be more acceptable to the tennis world as a GS all-time leader.
Don't go there Enceladus. Nothing wrong with Nadal braking that slam record, we all knew Djokovic has really really tough job to do and as it seems probably impossible one.
 
Don't go there Enceladus. Nothing wrong with Nadal braking that slam record, we all knew Djokovic has really really tough job to do and as it seems probably impossible one.
I disagree. I think Rafa is the man to bet on, but I am more scared of djoker going on a tear. What if he wins AO and French? Djoker is the one guy that I would never count out even though I would like to.
 

Graham62

New User
I am no Federer groupie but what I do know is that he is respected and admired far more amongst the tennis community than either Nadal or Djokovic.

There are many reasons for this but, for me, the key reason is that he plays to win, even though it has sometimes gone against him when playing Nadal or Djokovic. He is a risk taker, unlike Rafa and Novak, who's mindsets are geared to go out not to lose. They are attritional animals, whereas Federer is a master of his art.

They are all phenomenal athletes but there is absolutely no doubt who is the greatest.

End of.
 
Hey, Lleyton, did you enjoy the match last night? Who were you supporting in the fifth? :)
It was a tough one. Knowing if he pulls it out it hurts Fed in the long run. However, I am not your usual fan in that I don't care too much for the mythical Goat (slam titles I do, but it won't kill me if Rafa does pass him).

But I kept thinking back to AO17, and I felt for his fans (I had to live through WC19, and wish that on no fans) and Rafa, and felt he was getting that moment here. So I was not sure, but when he won it, and I saw his face after... a smile was on my face.

That being said, if he gets 21, I won't have that smile on my face. ;)
 

Sunny Ali

Hall of Fame
lol He is not even a mahatma .
Basically a Casteist and Racist person .
He was promoted by Indians and sold to Western world as a peacelover , basically bcoz him being a High caste . :D
Giving this man the title of Mahatma was a travesty. The folks in those days should have carefully looked up the purport of 'mahatma' before carelessly giving this title to him.

Top post, Maratha!
 

OhYes

Legend
I disagree. I think Rafa is the man to bet on, but I am more scared of djoker going on a tear. What if he wins AO and French? Djoker is the one guy that I would never count out even though I would like to.
Don't make me laugh :) He is not looking good in any way currently. Injury seems chronic, he is not doing so well against younger generation, Medvedev, Agut, Wawrinka, Thiem, list of potential troublemakers for his records is just getting bigger. Nadal moved 1 Slam further away, even if Novak wins AO, FO will make same difference, and so on...
 

maratha_warrior

Hall of Fame
Giving this man the title of Mahatma was a travesty. The folks in those days should have carefully looked up the purport of 'mahatma' before carelessly giving this title to him.

Top post, Maratha!
he was a con man .
I read his views about untouchables , shudras & Africans and he doesn't even deserve one National honour .
As usual , Indians select Leaders of High caste only and promote them to west ..
We Indians are basically racists to the extreme core .
 
Don't make me laugh :) He is not looking good in any way currently. Injury seems chronic, he is not doing so well against younger generation, Medvedev, Agut, Wawrinka, Thiem, list of potential troublemakers for his records is just getting bigger. Nadal moved 1 Slam further away, even if Novak wins AO, FO will make same difference, and so on...
Is he not going to be more motivated now? A motivated Djoker is scary.
 

TimHenmanATG

Professional
lol He is not even a mahatma .
Basically a Casteist and Racist person .
He was promoted by Indians and sold to Western world as a peacelover , basically bcoz him being a High caste . :D
Yeah, I know about the caste system in India.

It was one of the major reasons why Britain was able to so "easily" colonise India. All the "East Indian Company" - and later British - army had to do was to cut deals with regional higher-caste rulers, who were already subjugating the lower-caste people in their jurisdictions.

I'm obviously not attempting to defend British colonialism in South Asia, as the reason for colonisation was obviously greed and exploitation, rather than any kind of moral reason.

But it is fair to say that the caste-system was already creating misery in India long before the arrival of the "East India Company".
 

The Blond Blur

Hall of Fame
Tennis doesn't need saving. We just had record breaking attendance for the USO :p

https://www.usopen.org/en_US/news/articles/2019-09-08/photos_trevor_noah_michael_douglas_among_celebs_at_mens_us_open_final.html

"The US Open set an all-time attendance record in 2019, with 737,872 fans coming to the USTA Billie Jean King National Tennis Center during the two weeks of the main draw, which saw Arthur Ashe Stadium sell out 23 of 24 sessions.

Combined with the record 115,355 attendance during US Open Fan Week, the US Open's total three-week attendance surpassed 850,000 for the first time at 853,227."
 

OhYes

Legend
Is he not going to be more motivated now? A motivated Djoker is scary.
Depends on injury ofc, and if we look what kind of draw he had at UO, I don't think anyone at top sees Djokovic as a player who should be cut some slack. Personally I think game is rigged.
 

Raiden

Hall of Fame
Djokovic is the only one, who can save men's tennis

Then where the hell is he?

Why did he fail to sort out Wawrinka for so long... even women have sorted out Wawrinka (ex wife, Vekic, Mirka...) yet Djoker keeps failing
 

Robin3381

Rookie
Tennis doesn't need saving. We just had record breaking attendance for the USO :p

https://www.usopen.org/en_US/news/articles/2019-09-08/photos_trevor_noah_michael_douglas_among_celebs_at_mens_us_open_final.html

"The US Open set an all-time attendance record in 2019, with 737,872 fans coming to the USTA Billie Jean King National Tennis Center during the two weeks of the main draw, which saw Arthur Ashe Stadium sell out 23 of 24 sessions.

Combined with the record 115,355 attendance during US Open Fan Week, the US Open's total three-week attendance surpassed 850,000 for the first time at 853,227."
Wow, that is surprising! Maybe lots of people bought the tickets, expecting a Fedal final after Novak is out. Nonetheless, these people got their money's worth for this final.
 

Yugram

Hall of Fame
Depends on injury ofc, and if we look what kind of draw he had at UO, I don't think anyone at top sees Djokovic as a player who should be cut some slack. Personally I think game is rigged.
The draws are def rigged at Slams, except for maybe RG where they do public and supposedly randomized draw ceremony. Like lol AO is ruled by Federer’s business partner Craig Tiley, how is this not a conflict of interest? :rolleyes:
 

The Blond Blur

Hall of Fame
Wow, that is surprising! Maybe lots of people bought the tickets, expecting a Fedal final after Novak is out. Nonetheless, these people got their money's worth for this final.
Best final levelwise for both finalists in at least a decade (2009 is the only one that comes close imo) We've had 4, 5 set finals since 1999 and I think this one was the best so you could even say the best final in 20 years :whistle:
 

Zara

Legend
Federer's chances of keeping a record in the number of GS titles are lost after the 2019 US Open final. Federer is 38 years old, the hopes of expanding his collection of GS titles are small and and Nadal thanks triumph at the US Open approached him on the difference at only one GS title. It is very unlikely that Nadal will no longer add a GS title, and on the contrary what is very likely is that Nadal will make every effort to break the Federer's record.

The only one who can prevent Nadal from setting a record in the number of GS titles for many years ahead is Djokovic. Nole has 16 GS titles, 3 less than Nadal and 4 less than Federer, but is the youngest of the Big 3. Like Rafa, Nole has the ambition to reach the GS record. Now the race about GS record is only in their hands. Who wins this race it will keep the record for many years. I estimate that Medvedev, Tsitsipas or FAA can will reach into the 5-10 GS gained titles range, but no more.

Nadal is a very divisive person on the tennis scene. At the competitive tennis forum MTF Nadal has won many times a poll 'Most Disliked Player'. Djokovic is not more popular than Nadal, but will be more acceptable to the tennis world as a GS all-time leader.
Now that's just utter rubbish. Who really cares who's most disliked or even liked. Do you honestly think Nadal will be less acceptable even when he wins 21 slams?

Accepting him or not is a secondary element to the actual thing. If he gets there then it will be him - like it or not.

And tennis doesn't need to be saved (and save from what, really?). It's open for anyone to take. If you have a problem with it then it's strictly yours. It's a personal thing in other words.

Nole is a very determined person and will eventually get there too.
 

Zara

Legend
Don't go there Enceladus. Nothing wrong with Nadal braking that slam record, we all knew Djokovic has really really tough job to do and as it seems probably impossible one.
Things change in tennis fairly quickly. Djokovic can win the next 2 slams and suddenly we'll be too close to both. This would only motivate him because 16 is not too far away but more importantly, he has great holds on most slams unlike Nadal who has to rely on RG first followed by USO (25%).
 

Sunny Ali

Hall of Fame
he was a con man .
I read his views about untouchables , shudras & Africans and he doesn't even deserve one National honour .
As usual , Indians select Leaders of High caste only and promote them to west ..
We Indians are basically racists to the extreme core .
Agreed. I'm from the South where it was quite bad. The caste system has been playing havoc. To make it worse, we have these worthless missionaries running amok with conversions.
 

Zara

Legend
The draws are def rigged at Slams, except for maybe RG where they do public and supposedly randomized draw ceremony. Like lol AO is ruled by Federer’s business partner Craig Tiley, how is this not a conflict of interest? :rolleyes:
Oh I did not know that. RG is probably rigged too. Has to be. Perhaps more cleverly done.
 

Yugram

Hall of Fame
Things change in tennis fairly quickly. Djokovic can win the next 2 slams and suddenly we'll be too close to both. This would only motivate him because 16 is not too far away but more importantly, he has great holds on most slams unlike Nadal who has to rely on RG first followed by USO (25%).
Nadal doesn’t have to rely on RG. He’s the most consistent Slam performer not only this year, but ever since 2017. If Djokovic blinks at any of the 3 non clay Slams, Nadal will take them.
 

OhYes

Legend
Things change in tennis fairly quickly. Djokovic can win the next 2 slams and suddenly we'll be too close to both. This would only motivate him because 16 is not too far away but more importantly, he has great holds on most slams unlike Nadal who has to rely on RG first followed by USO (25%).
The more things change the more they stay the same... :)
 

BeatlesFan

Talk Tennis Guru
Nadal is a very divisive person on the tennis scene. At the competitive tennis forum MTF Nadal has won many times a poll 'Most Disliked Player'. Djokovic is not more popular than Nadal, but will be more acceptable to the tennis world as a GS all-time leader.
Interesting to see the Djokovic fan base pivot from their unceasing hate for Fed to now embrace vitriol for Rafa. What a startling coincidence that the hate flares up the day after after Nadal pulls further away from Nole in the slam race.
 
Thanks for letting us know. I would have thought Roger Federer's retirement from tennis would have been front page news world-wide. Can you post a link announcing his retirement, we must have missed it. :unsure::)
You must surely be worried by now, though. I mean, Federer is really old. And Nadal is only one behind. And Nadal hasn't even been pushed to five sets in any of the last three Roland Garroses. Surely, at the bare minimum, there's a good chance that Nadal will tie Federer's tally of 20 Slam titles and that Federer will not win any more Slams. Okay, Federer would in that eventuality share the lead, but he'd like it all to himself, no doubt.
 

Zara

Legend
You must surely be worried by now, though. I mean, Federer is really old. And Nadal is only one behind. And Nadal hasn't even been pushed to five sets in any of the last three Roland Garroses. Surely, at the bare minimum, there's a good chance that Nadal will tie Federer's tally of 20 Slam titles and that Federer will not win any more Slams. Okay, Federer would in that eventuality share the lead, but he'd like it all to himself, no doubt.
Lmho! Oh come now.
 

Start da Game

Professional
Federer's chances of keeping a record in the number of GS titles are lost after the 2019 US Open final. Federer is 38 years old, the hopes of expanding his collection of GS titles are small and and Nadal thanks triumph at the US Open approached him on the difference at only one GS title. It is very unlikely that Nadal will no longer add a GS title, and on the contrary what is very likely is that Nadal will make every effort to break the Federer's record.

The only one who can prevent Nadal from setting a record in the number of GS titles for many years ahead is Djokovic. Nole has 16 GS titles, 3 less than Nadal and 4 less than Federer, but is the youngest of the Big 3. Like Rafa, Nole has the ambition to reach the GS record. Now the race about GS record is only in their hands. Who wins this race it will keep the record for many years. I estimate that Medvedev, Tsitsipas or FAA can will reach into the 5-10 GS gained titles range, but no more.

Nadal is a very divisive person on the tennis scene. At the competitive tennis forum MTF Nadal has won many times a poll 'Most Disliked Player'. Djokovic is not more popular than Nadal, but will be more acceptable to the tennis world as a GS all-time leader.
bitter tears everywhere......i am laughing my arse off at all these threads......
 

Start da Game

Professional
ultron has to win another 4 slams in rising competition and with an ageing body just to get to 20......huge huge task, chances are very slim......you cannot win 4 slams just like that, it will get very difficult for him......

rafa needs just one more and pundits will declare him GOAT then and there......
 

Zara

Legend
The more things change the more they stay the same... :)
Yes, that's true. This whole race thing keeps dragging on to no end. I sometimes get really fed up of it and wish Federer ended his career back in 2012. I may want to go away from men's tennis altogether as at times, I don't find it all that healthy.
 
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