Djokovic is the only one, who can save men's tennis

Zara

Hall of Fame
You are confident that Federer will add to his tally of major titles? I'm not. He might. But that Wimbledon defeat was really crushing.
I feel Federer will have the most obstacles and in all honesty, I hope it stays where it is right now - the slam tally as in as it needs to end at some point and that would be the starting point. Nadal most certainly won't give up at this point. He'd at the very least square things off. That's what motivates him the most anyway.

Wimbledon defeat was extremely crushing, no doubt - even I felt bad for him. While he played very well, I never thought Djokovic was at his best. I can't predict the future and don't intend to do but I truly hope it all ends well. If I care about anything, I care about healthy competition - if there's such a thing in sports though.

Sampras ended things really well. We were so satisfied and tennis seemed in a good place too in the sense that it was open for the newcomers to make a commotion.
 
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OhYes

Legend
Yes, that's true. This whole race thing keeps dragging on to no end. I sometimes get really fed up of it and wish Federer ended his career back in 2012. I may want to go away from men's tennis altogether as at times, I don't find it all that healthy.
Oh I so agree on that with you.
 

Imperator

Professional
I am no Federer groupie but what I do know is that he is respected and admired far more amongst the tennis community than either Nadal or Djokovic.

There are many reasons for this but, for me, the key reason is that he plays to win, even though it has sometimes gone against him when playing Nadal or Djokovic. He is a risk taker, unlike Rafa and Novak, who's mindsets are geared to go out not to lose. They are attritional animals, whereas Federer is a master of his art.

They are all phenomenal athletes but there is absolutely no doubt who is the greatest.

End of.
Look, I love Federer but sometimes I just can't understand some things his fans say about him. What you're saying just doesn't make any sense to me. You're talking as if Nadal and Djoko were just mindless brutes while Federer were some kind of divine figure that comes from another dimension with a greater knowledge of the world and life. He's currently the GOAT, yes, but he's just a tennis player like Djokovic or Nadal. He hates to lose, wants to win but happened to have a totally different tennis style because that's what works for him. That's it. No need to pretend he has some kind of superior and unique mindset, that's just not true.
 

Start da Game

Professional
Yes, that's true. This whole race thing keeps dragging on to no end. I sometimes get really fed up of it and wish Federer ended his career back in 2012. I may want to go away from men's tennis altogether as at times, I don't find it all that healthy.
rafa has put an end to that race by first ousting djokovic from it......i just don’t see that djokovic is in it anymore......no matter how you look at it, i just don’t see him winning 4 more slams......he’s not even a favourite next year in australia.......age is finally catching up with him.......

forget fraud, he’s finished winning slams, he may as well call it a day and join sharapova and travel to countries like congo for accounting work of disgraceful UN......

the race is over, this us open was crucial and rafa nailed it......#20 and #21 incoming......
 

Zara

Hall of Fame
rafa has put an end to that race by first ousting djokovic from it......i just don’t see that djokovic is in it anymore......no matter how you look at it, i just don’t see him winning 4 more slams......he’s not even a favourite next year in australia.......age is finally catching up with him.......

forget fraud, he’s finished winning slams, he may as well call it a day and join sharapova and travel to countries like congo for accounting work of disgraceful UN......

the race is over, this us open was crucial and rafa nailed it......#20 and #21 incoming......
Can't possibly write Djokovic off of all people. Age is not catching up with him. He's just tired as he tends to win a lot. It's understandable.

Besides, he was up against the biggest task ever at Wimbledon when he had to play against Federer and the crowd. That takes a lot of energy away. He didn't even bother to celebrate as much as he is used to - perhaps, didn't want to rile up the crowd any further but he was clearly mentally drained far more. It will take some time for him to come back. Champions are not meant to feel weak or get discouraged. In fact, he has already sent a very healthy message to Nadal.
 

Djokodal Fan

Hall of Fame
nobody needs to save anyone. Just enjoy the big 3 wins while it lasts. After fed retires Djokovic and Nadal will also have windows open up for them to win a slam here or there like Fed did in last 2 years.

That's why they are the greatest trio. I'm glad nadal held his ground and denied a slam to next gen. Let them work for it :). It just shows how good 32+ veterans are even when young blood is around.
 

scotus

G.O.A.T.
Djokovic is graciously allowing Nadal to break Federer's slam record. He knows he can break both of their records soon.
 
Tennis doesn't need saving, certainly not from Nadal, who everyone loves. What people don't like is either 1) his ass picking pre-point routine, or 2) that he is better than Roger. Those aren't legit, and those people will change their tune once Nadal does eclipse Fed.
 

Incognito

Legend
he was a con man .
I read his views about untouchables , shudras & Africans and he doesn't even deserve one National honour .
As usual , Indians select Leaders of High caste only and promote them to west ..
We Indians are basically racists to the extreme core .

Who is it indians do not like?
 
I feel Federer will have the most obstacles and in all honesty, I hope it stays where it is right now - the slam tally as in as it needs to end at some point and that would be the starting point. Nadal most certainly won't give up at this point. He'd at the very least square things off. That's what motivates him the most anyway.

Wimbledon defeat was extremely crushing, no doubt - even I felt bad for him. While he played very well, I never thought Djokovic was at his best. I can't predict the future and don't intend to do but I truly hope it all ends well. If I care about anything, I care about healthy competition - if there's such a thing in sports though.

Sampras ended things really well. We were so satisfied and tennis seemed in a good place too in the sense that it was open for the newcomers to make a commotion.
It would be nice for Federer to get a happy ending but I don't think it will happen. Perhaps I'll be proven wrong. I think that in terms of career arc, he and Nadal will end up more comparable to McEnroe and Lendl than to Sampras and Agassi. McEnroe was far more talented than Lendl but Lendl ended up with one more Slam title, more weeks at #1, more overall titles, and generally a better career. And McEnroe was well ahead until they were in their mid-20s. McEnroe was a year older, but, still, on the morning of the 1985 US Open final, I don't think many people would have thought that Lendl could have much hope of catching McEnroe. McEnroe went in with seven Slam titles and four year-end positions as #1, while Lendl had just a solitary Slam title and had never finished the year #1. While some would have thought Lendl would win the final, McEnroe had beaten Lendl easily in Canada a few weeks before. Yet Lendl beat McEnroe in straight sets, McEnroe never won another major, and Lendl won a further six (not counting the 1985 US Open itself). I think Nadal will now most likely end up ahead of Federer in Slam titles and tying him for year-ends at #1, possibly even bettering him in that regard.

It would be nice if some new guard would break through next year. But I think that Nadal and Djokovic both have another good year in them, and that's going to make them hard for anyone to budge. I agree that Djokovic wasn't at his best in the Wimbledon final - in fact, he hasn't really been at his best all year, other than in the final two rounds in Australia. However, Nadal's success will likely light a fire up his backside and motivate him to knuckle down again.
 

Zara

Hall of Fame
It would be nice for Federer to get a happy ending but I don't think it will happen. Perhaps I'll be proven wrong. I think that in terms of career arc, he and Nadal will end up more comparable to McEnroe and Lendl than to Sampras and Agassi. McEnroe was far more talented than Lendl but Lendl ended up with one more Slam title, more weeks at #1, more overall titles, and generally a better career. And McEnroe was well ahead until they were in their mid-20s. McEnroe was a year older, but, still, on the morning of the 1985 US Open final, I don't think many people would have thought that Lendl could have much hope of catching McEnroe. McEnroe went in with seven Slam titles and four year-end positions as #1, while Lendl had just a solitary Slam title and had never finished the year #1. While some would have thought Lendl would win the final, McEnroe had beaten Lendl easily in Canada a few weeks before. Yet Lendl beat McEnroe in straight sets, McEnroe never won another major, and Lendl won a further six (not counting the 1985 US Open itself). I think Nadal will now most likely end up ahead of Federer in Slam titles and tying him for year-ends at #1, possibly even bettering him in that regard.

It would be nice if some new guard would break through next year. But I think that Nadal and Djokovic both have another good year in them, and that's going to make them hard for anyone to budge. I agree that Djokovic wasn't at his best in the Wimbledon final - in fact, he hasn't really been at his best all year, other than in the final two rounds in Australia. However, Nadal's success will likely light a fire up his backside and motivate him to knuckle down again.
The race is actually between Nadal and Djokovic. I don't think many people realize that. Federer is only trying to stay in the race. And I think both Nadal and Djokovic have not one but two years in them. Possibly three. The Next Gen is too humbled by the big 3 at the moment and may poke through here and there, but that's all there will be until all is said and done.

What kind of happy ending would you like to see for Federer? Sampras, for example, was fairly happy with the fact that he was the best in his era. Similarly, Federer has his own era too and he does have 20 slams. I feel happiness is within. You do your best and (we all know he did. Never gave a half-hearted effort and was always there 100%) and you acknowledge your own effort. If it was anything less then I could see why he should be unhappy. Another thing is, Federer basically asked for it - just like Sampras did. You set a precedent and not expect others to follow through if you know what I mean. Aren't records meant to be broken anyway? What would be the point otherwise?

I am amazed you remember all those details from the 80s. You're only a little kid back then but anyway. Wasn't McEnroe on six months sabbatical though and wasn't the same upon return? I read it somewhere but I forget where. So it's not the same as Federer & Nadal as Federer is still active and playing very well for a 38-year-old. I get that you meant talent-wise however and some similarities in events.
 

Mike Sams

Legend
LOL @ Djokovic saving tennis.
The Federer fans and Nadal fans all hate Djokovic because of how many Slam titles and Masters titles he took away from their heroes. LOL
The Slam race is still on....
 

NoleFam

G.O.A.T.
The race is actually between Nadal and Djokovic. I don't think many people realize that. Federer is only trying to stay in the race. And I think both Nadal and Djokovic have not one but two years in them. Possibly three. The Next Gen is too humbled by the big 3 at the moment and may poke through here and there, but that's all there will be until all is said and done.

What kind of happy ending would you like to see for Federer? Sampras, for example, was fairly happy with the fact that he was the best in his era. Similarly, Federer has his own era too and he does have 20 slams. I feel happiness is within. You do your best and (we all know he did. Never gave a half-hearted effort and was always there 100%) and you acknowledge your own effort. If it was anything less then I could see why he should be unhappy. Another thing is, Federer basically asked for it - just like Sampras did. You set a precedent and not expect others to follow through if you know what I mean. Aren't records meant to be broken anyway? What would be the point otherwise?

I am amazed you remember all those details from the 80s. You're only a little kid back then but anyway. Wasn't McEnroe on six months sabbatical though and wasn't the same upon return? I read it somewhere but I forget where. So it's not the same as Federer & Nadal as Federer is still active and playing very well for a 38-year-old. I get that you meant talent-wise however and some similarities in events.
This is something that people on here are not saying or just afraid to say. Federer is 38 years old now and needs a miracle to win another Slam. His last chance was right there this year and it got away from him and he missed his chance. Honestly, everything was working for him this Wimbledon and he even got a subpar Djokovic in the final. The chances of everything working out in his favor like that again are kind of slim, and Wimbledon is really the one Slam where his game is the most effective. With Nadal and Djokovic still lurking and these newer guys getting better everyday, it's going to be really tough to go through that field at a Slam outside Wimbledon and win it again unless he gets another draw like 2018. It's really down to Nadal and Djokovic battling it out and trying to hold off the newer generation a little while longer while they add more glory.

Nadal winning yesterday was great for him and his chase, but it also was great for Djokovic and Federer to be honest because if Medvedev had won, that could have opened the flood gates on the Big 3 with a number of players seeing this and believing they can do it too. Rafa kept that threat at bay for the time being although the possibility of that threat is still very much alive. However, he was able to maintain the fear factor the Big 3 have over the field.

Whether Federer never wins another Slam and gets passed by either or both, it is still a phenomenal career and like you I believe all records are meant to be broken anyway, and it still won't take away the shine of reaching 20 Slams which is beyond a great achievement.
 
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The race is actually between Nadal and Djokovic. I don't think many people realize that. Federer is only trying to stay in the race. And I think both Nadal and Djokovic have not one but two years in them. Possibly three. The Next Gen is too humbled by the big 3 at the moment and may poke through here and there, but that's all there will be until all is said and done.

What kind of happy ending would you like to see for Federer? Sampras, for example, was fairly happy with the fact that he was the best in his era. Similarly, Federer has his own era too and he does have 20 slams. I feel happiness is within. You do your best and (we all know he did. Never gave a half-hearted effort and was always there 100%) and you acknowledge your own effort. If it was anything less then I could see why he should be unhappy. Another thing is, Federer basically asked for it - just like Sampras did. You set a precedent and not expect others to follow through if you know what I mean. Aren't records meant to be broken anyway? What would be the point otherwise?

I am amazed you remember all those details from the 80s. You're only a little kid back then but anyway. Wasn't McEnroe on six months sabbatical though and wasn't the same upon return? I read it somewhere but I forget where. So it's not the same as Federer & Nadal as Federer is still active and playing very well for a 38-year-old. I get that you meant talent-wise however and some similarities in events.
I would regard a happy ending for Federer as winning one more Slam (and probably retiring immediately afterwards). I think Federer is pretty happy as a person, but I also think he wanted the record to last until the next group of players, rather than have it broken by a rival of his, even if a much younger one. Yes, I agree that Nadal and Djokovic could have several years left. I think they might be competitive at the top for as much as another five or six years, but I think it's unlikely that they will still be the top two at that point, just perhaps two of the top five or six. We'll see whether a younger player can really challenge them sooner.

I don't remember the details from McEnroe and Lendl - I didn't follow tennis until later. I know them from reading about them. McEnroe took his six month sabbatical a few months after the 1985 US Open. It was only a rough analogy in that the more talented player was initially much more successful but couldn't keep it up, and the more indefatigable player eventually tracked him down. I know Federer fans like to say he was old when he first lost the #1 ranking to Nadal in 2008, but that was obviously not the case. He did lose form a bit but not because of age.
 

Tenez101

Hall of Fame
Interesting to see the Djokovic fan base pivot from their unceasing hate for Fed to now embrace vitriol for Rafa. What a startling coincidence that the hate flares up the day after after Nadal pulls further away from Nole in the slam race.
Nole fans love Rafa. Don’t project your own hatred.
 

Spider

Hall of Fame
I dont think tennis needs to be saved. And the fan reaction last night post Nadals win proved otherwise.

It will come down to motivation, fitness and the ability to still want to do it year after year.

I dont think Federers done tio. He was a point away from winning Wimbledon against his biggest rival after beating another rival in the semis.

I think the next few years will be real fun and something that will be sorely missed once these three absolute legends retire for good.

The race is on between three guys. Let's see who tops it at the end of it all.
 

Tenez101

Hall of Fame
Fred could’ve gone quietly years ago on a high like Sampras and retained his mystique. But he didn’t and fought on. There is a lot to be admired there. Records are meant to be broken, players are meant to be surpassed, the next generation pushes forward.
 

BeatlesFan

Talk Tennis Guru
You must surely be worried by now, though. I mean, Federer is really old. And Nadal is only one behind.
Nope, I'm a tennis fan and then far after that a Fed fan. I was a Lendl and Agassi fan before Roger, so tennis survives it all. I will love another player after Fed as well. I don't hate the rivals of my guy, unlike many here. I worry about the stock market and my portfolio, I rarely worry about the GOAT race. My happiness isn't coupled with Fed's success. Life will go on for decades after he's retired and by then, I'm rooting for Med or Dennis or Felix.
 

sliceroni

Professional
The majority of fans, and non tennis fans love Rafa and Roger more than Nole, and they care about them more so they'd like to see those two race for the top. But records are meant to be broken. Pete didn't think his record would last, but I'm sure he sleeps well at night.
 

Zara

Hall of Fame
I would regard a happy ending for Federer as winning one more Slam (and probably retiring immediately afterwards). I think Federer is pretty happy as a person, but I also think he wanted the record to last until the next group of players, rather than have it broken by a rival of his, even if a much younger one. Yes, I agree that Nadal and Djokovic could have several years left. I think they might be competitive at the top for as much as another five or six years, but I think it's unlikely that they will still be the top two at that point, just perhaps two of the top five or six. We'll see whether a younger player can really challenge them sooner.

I don't remember the details from McEnroe and Lendl - I didn't follow tennis until later. I know them from reading about them. McEnroe took his six month sabbatical a few months after the 1985 US Open. It was only a rough analogy in that the more talented player was initially much more successful but couldn't keep it up, and the more indefatigable player eventually tracked him down. I know Federer fans like to say he was old when he first lost the #1 ranking to Nadal in 2008, but that was obviously not the case. He did lose form a bit but not because of age.
But this won't make Federer happy if both Nadal and Djokovic continue to chase his record because they feel they can and have the ability to do so. It's only a matter of time now. And Federer won't retire if he wins another slam because he will continue to believe he can sneak in one more here or there just like what we saw in 2017. He too isn't giving up in my opinion or as I see it. This is a vicious circle and they are all caught up in that loop. So are the fans.

But what Federer is experiencing is his own doing when he comfortably broke Sampras' record. I don't think he was thinking about Sampras' feelings or his fans even remotely.

This always beats me though. Why would a less talented player accomplish more when the more talented player was given the same opportunity? You could say Federer was 5 years older but I could also say Nadal was 5 years younger.
 
Nope, I'm a tennis fan and then far after that a Fed fan. I was a Lendl and Agassi fan before Roger, so tennis survives it all. I will love another player after Fed as well. I don't hate the rivals of my guy, unlike many here. I worry about the stock market and my portfolio, I rarely worry about the GOAT race. My happiness isn't coupled with Fed's success. Life will go on for decades after he's retired and by then, I'm rooting for Med or Dennis or Felix.
Okay, that's a positive attitude. Nonetheless, it seems that you do accept that Federer's quite likely to lose his lead in the Slam title race, which is really what I was asking about. Life will indeed go on, come what may.
 
Saving men's tennis has zero to do with slam count.
No one gives a **** about slam count except the media.
Fans do not. Mac had 8. Sampras, the personality of cardboard, has 14, and killed tennis
 
But this won't make Federer happy if both Nadal and Djokovic continue to chase his record because they feel they can and have the ability to do so. It's only a matter of time now. And Federer won't retire if he wins another slam because he will continue to believe he can sneak in one more here or there just like what we saw in 2017. He too isn't giving up and in my opinion or as I see it. This is a vicious circle and they are all caught up in that loop. So are the fans.

But what Federer is experiencing is his own doing when he comfortably broke Sampras' record. I don't think he was thinking about Sampras' feelings or his fans even remotely.

This always beats me though. Why would a less talented player accomplish more when the more talented player was given the same opportunity? You could say Federer was 5 years older but I could also say Nadal was 5 years younger.
Because "talent" is a word that, as we normally use it, only encapsulates some of the skills needed for success in tennis - in particular, the racket-based ones. Federer has much, much higher tennis-specific skills than does Nadal. But Nadal is much more mentally strong, much more focused, much more disciplined, much fitter, and much stronger. His overall athletic skills are much better than Federer's. And the skills at which Nadal surpasses Federer are ones that are just as difficult to change as are tennis-specific ones, so it's not really the case that Federer should have just knuckled down and tried harder. He did try hard. He just wasn't as "talented" at the less flashy and less obvious skills. Same with McEnroe and Lendl.

I agree that they are all caught in a negative loop. They must be very obsessed with it.
 

tonylg

Semi-Pro
I am no Federer groupie but what I do know is that he is respected and admired far more amongst the tennis community than either Nadal or Djokovic.

There are many reasons for this but, for me, the key reason is that he plays to win, even though it has sometimes gone against him when playing Nadal or Djokovic. He is a risk taker, unlike Rafa and Novak, who's mindsets are geared to go out not to lose. They are attritional animals, whereas Federer is a master of his art.

They are all phenomenal athletes but there is absolutely no doubt who is the greatest.

End of.
Look, I love Federer but sometimes I just can't understand some things his fans say about him. What you're saying just doesn't make any sense to me. You're talking as if Nadal and Djoko were just mindless brutes while Federer were some kind of divine figure that comes from another dimension with a greater knowledge of the world and life. He's currently the GOAT, yes, but he's just a tennis player like Djokovic or Nadal. He hates to lose, wants to win but happened to have a totally different tennis style because that's what works for him. That's it. No need to pretend he has some kind of superior and unique mindset, that's just not true.
I'll take this one step further and say Federer now plays like a "mindless brute" (grinder) 99% of the time.

That's what you have to do to win professional tennis in the age of 100 square inch racquets with poly strings. I enjoy the way Federer used to play can play far more than how he does now. I respect the skill of Rafa and Novak and can appreciate the competition (though the GOAT race isn't important to me), but I don't enjoy watching that style of tennis.

I think the ITF and ATP need to show some courage and save tennis by stopping it's devolution into a contest of mindless brutism .. and that can only happen by reversing the ridiculous reliance on equipment that has emerged over the last decade and a half.
 

Zara

Hall of Fame
Because "talent" is a word that, as we normally use it, only encapsulates some of the skills needed for success in tennis - in particular, the racket-based ones. Federer has much, much higher tennis-specific skills than does Nadal. But Nadal is much more mentally strong, much more focused, much more disciplined, much fitter, and much stronger. His overall athletic skills are much better than Federer's. And the skills at which Nadal surpasses Federer are ones that are just as difficult to change as are tennis-specific ones, so it's not really the case that Federer should have just knuckled down and tried harder. He did try hard. He just wasn't as "talented" at the less flashy and less obvious skills. Same with McEnroe and Lendl.

I agree that they are all caught in a negative loop. They must be very obsessed with it.
Nadal hasn't surpassed Federer yet but let's just assume for a minute that he did. Then this would mean all those skills of Nadal were greater than Federer as he was more accomplished. And tennis should be a game of the whole and not in parts, would you not agree? Just having tennis-specific skills do not seem to be enough quite apparently. And if they are both great in different categories then clearly Nadal executes his skills better. I am assuming however he's broken the record.

Anyway, I see things a little differently. I see Federer as refined talent whereas in Nadal I see raw talent.

They won't admit it but I can see very unhealthy obsession in all of them which then transcends to their respective fans. A lot of negative feelings have surfaced as a result and that's why this needs to be resolved. And it won't be achieved until one of them equals it.
 

Midaso240

Hall of Fame
Nadal is now well ahead on slams by age,Federer won his 19th shortly before turning 36,with Nadal still at 33. Djokovic may be the best placed of all,as long as he's fully fit he's the favourite at 3/4 slams,but how long that remains to be the case is anyone's guess...
 

Tenez101

Hall of Fame
Nadal hasn't surpassed Federer yet but let's just assume for a minute that he did. Then this would mean all those skills of Nadal were greater than Federer as he was more accomplished. And tennis should be a game of the whole and not in parts, would you not agree? Just having tennis-specific skills do not seem to be enough quite apparently. And if they are both great in different categories then clearly Nadal executes his skills better. I am assuming however he's broken the record.

Anyway, I see things a little differently. I see Federer as refined talent whereas in Nadal I see raw talent.

They won't admit it but I can see very unhealthy obsession in all of them which then transcends to their respective fans. A lot of negative feelings have surfaced as a result and that's why this needs to be resolved. And it won't be achieved until one of them equals it.
What unhealthy feelings exactly, can you elaborate? I find your posts very insightful.
 

King No1e

Legend
Nole: A hero for Djokovic fans, a respectable rival for Nadal fans, and the SAVIOR OF TENNIS for Federer fans.
 

serbiavic

Rookie
Nadal doesn’t have to rely on RG. He’s the most consistent Slam performer not only this year, but ever since 2017. If Djokovic blinks at any of the 3 non clay Slams, Nadal will take them.
Fed at Wimbledon is also very likely without Nole. AO morr 50/50. USO favors Nadal for sure.
 
Nadal hasn't surpassed Federer yet but let's just assume for a minute that he did. Then this would mean all those skills of Nadal were greater than Federer as he was more accomplished. And tennis should be a game of the whole and not in parts, would you not agree? Just having tennis-specific skills do not seem to be enough quite apparently. And if they are both great in different categories then clearly Nadal executes his skills better. I am assuming however he's broken the record.

Anyway, I see things a little differently. I see Federer as refined talent whereas in Nadal I see raw talent.

They won't admit it but I can see very unhealthy obsession in all of them which then transcends to their respective fans. A lot of negative feelings have surfaced as a result and that's why this needs to be resolved. And it won't be achieved until one of them equals it.
You make a good point, and probably we ought to use the word "talent" more holistically. But plenty of users (and commentators) do in fact use it to refer to racket skills. Personally, I have a preference for players whose skills are mostly racket-based, and a strong negative preference against players whose success relies heavily on general athletic prowess. I'm somewhere in the middle for players whose success relies significantly on mental strength, whether that be in the form of tactics or nervelessness. If we used a broader definition of talent, it would still be the case that there is some luck involved in success, so it doesn't necessarily follow that the person who has better results is by definition more talented.

Certainly, the fans are often unhealthily obsessed. And probably the players are, too.
 

Raiden

Hall of Fame
Saving men's tennis has zero to do with slam count.
No one gives a **** about slam count except the media.
Fans do not. Mac had 8. Sampras, the personality of cardboard, has 14, and killed tennis
True.

Media invented the slam count obsession during Sampras peak because there was nothing else to talk about him/talk with him on any subject, tennis or otherwise.
 

Shaj

New User
lol He is not even a mahatma .
Basically a Casteist and Racist person .
He was promoted by Indians and sold to Western world as a peacelover , basically bcoz him being a High caste . :D
I am not a fan of Gandhi by any means. But what is written above is utter rubbish.Sorry to say that mate.
 

Gary Duane

G.O.A.T.
Djokovic is not more popular than Nadal, but will be more acceptable to the tennis world as a GS all-time leader.
Nah. One of these guys will end up with more titles and more bragging points, and the world will just slowly get used to whatever turns out to be the final tally.
 

maratha_warrior

Hall of Fame
I am not a fan of Gandhi by any means. But what is written above is utter rubbish.Sorry to say that mate.
why shud u be sorry for flatly lying ?? that is Ur choice .
-Go and read Gandhi's views about Caste /Varna system
-Go and read abt his views on black Africans .
-Go and read his views about cow /beef topic .

He is no intellectual but a con man .
Just bcoz he is high caste , he was promoted to western world ..
A Casteist / Racist can never be humanist no matter how much we fool foreigners. :D
 

Tennis_Hands

Talk Tennis Guru
If it wasn't for Federer himself, the Majors record would have long been in the hands of the Nadal. Djokovic was going on mental walks for long periods of time, when Nadal was doing his thing, instead of battling him out, so this thread hardly reflects the reality. The one that can still put his record in his own hands is Federer himself. Djokovic would be advised to try to bridge the gap, which has increased again. That is not saving the record, he is in no position to do that.

:cool:
 

Firstservingman

Talk Tennis Guru
Save tennis from what? Nads? So what if he wins the slam record - it will be great for him and his fans, but why does it affect tennis as a whole? Stars come and go and records are made to be broken.
Tennis will be fine whether or not Nadal or Djokovic or Federer hold the slam record. Anyone who wins it deserves it
 
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