irishnadalfan1983
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33 now...Anyone notice any difference between now and say when he was 27 for example? Doesn’t seem to have slowed down at all....
Thoughts folks???
Thoughts folks???
Movement, speed and flexibility are three separate things. I don't see any diminution in Novak's flexibility, but he's obviously ever-so-slightly slower than his peak speed. His movement coming forward and to his BH looks still to be lethal, perhaps a 1/4 step slower moving to his BH side. His ROS and anticipation with returning serve are still insane. The real drop off will come once he hits 35, then most players fall off a cliff in terms of movement/speed.
Oh, I agree with Rafa's decline in speed (Fed is also much slower than pre-2010). Novak and Nadal are two different players with different strengths. Rafa is also carrying around an extra 15 pounds (at minimum) as he moves around the court, which will take a toll as the years roll by.Fair enough...I suppose I just see a huge difference between Rafa now and younger Rafa whereas I don’t see the same with Nole...Not fair to compare the 2 and agree they are 3 separate areas...Not sure really how much slower Nole is but hard to judge...
33 now...Anyone notice any difference between now and say when he was 27 for example? Doesn’t seem to have slowed down at all....
Thoughts folks???
One thing is for sure. Novak hasn't slowed down as much as Federer and Nadal did when they got to 33 years.
It has to do with Novak's super lanky frame. And not enough credit is given to the sacrifice Novak makes off the field in terms of his diet and fitness.
His gluten free plant based diet, zero sugar and extreme herbal supplements have resulted in much stronger immunity and less aging in general.
Not to mention that Novak is very deeply spiritual and mastered his mind and subconscious. The so called enlightened state.
So in my opinion, Novak will age much less than Fed/Nadal in general. Because he has superior genetics and eats/lives healthier.
How do you know he lives/ eats healthier?
Someone mentions Nadal here. Well, Nadal declined so much in terms of speed yet again he won RG and USO in 2019. Is this normal? Declined Nadal winning in wheelchair is abnormal.
Doomed. Get used to itNo signs of the Imhotep's curse ending anytime soon lol
Nadal has adjusted his game. He has a different approach than he did when he had his best wheels. Nole basically wins the same way but with an improved second serve and volley.
I'm a Nadal fan, but I gotta say "Nole basically wins the same way" isn't a bad thing, cuz he still wins.
I do think he's made quite a few technical adjustments and added subtle elements to his game
Doomed. Get used to it
Maybe a fraction less elastic but he is still mesmerising. Today one point was just epic.33 now...Anyone notice any difference between now and say when he was 27 for example? Doesn’t seem to have slowed down at all....
Thoughts folks???
His movement has taken a hit in recent years for sure. His flexibility is as good as ever, though.
All that matters is who you're up against.I'm 31 and I'm in my best shape. Some people think a man who turns 30 is a grandpa, nothing could be further from the truth.
This. His movement has slown down, but flexibility is still off the charts.
One thing is for sure. Novak hasn't slowed down as much as Federer and Nadal did when they got to 33 years.
It has to do with Novak's super lanky frame. And not enough credit is given to the sacrifice Novak makes off the field in terms of his diet and fitness.
His gluten free plant based diet, zero sugar and extreme herbal supplements have resulted in much stronger immunity and less aging in general.
Not to mention that Novak is very deeply spiritual and mastered his mind and subconscious. The so called enlightened state.
So in my opinion, Novak will age much less than Fed/Nadal in general. Because he has superior genetics and eats/lives healthier.
His lateral movement seems just about as amazing as ever to me. If he has slowed down, it's probably so little that it's not visible to the naked eye.
I suspect people just assume that he *must* be slower because he's 33.
Something is missing from Novak's game as evidenced by his last 2 slam wins.
Do you watch him play and practice live? I see him every year at IW and there's no question he's slower than he was in 2009-2015. Watching matches or practice sessions on TV isn't the same as watching in person. There are areas of his game where he's still super quick (retrieving a drop shot), but moving laterally he is slower.As someone who has watched nearly every Djokovic match of the last 10 years, I feel he isn't the slightest bit slower than he used to be. It's a big reason why I favor him to dominate tennis for the foreseeable future.
Try serving like Sampras for 3 minutes straight much less 15 years and let me know if it's taxing.It's gobsmacking that he (and Nadal tbh) can still do the things they did at their peak. Absolutely amazing. They are both older than Sampras was when he retired. And his game wasn't taxing like theirs.
Try serving like Sampras for 3 minutes straight much less 15 years and let me know if it's taxing.
I have no idea how he does it at his age.He still moves as well as ever. I mean how else could he be winning slams in this day and age?
There are two truths here:
1. Djokovic is almost as fast as ever.
He is just rock solid. Even when not playing well, the opponent doesn't get too much to attack. They say Federe's longevity was amazing, I but suspect Djokovic will surpass that easily.
2. Anyone who thinks Nadal is anywhere close to being as fast as he was in the beginning of last decade needs to get their Tennis fan license revoked.
Of course. Not many think that, not even the usual suspects.I don't think anyone thinks #2. Just his athleticism is still off the charts at his age. All 3 have re-written the rules of being over 30 in tennis and it's crazy.
Of course. Not many think that, not even the usual suspects.
There are two truths here:
1. Djokovic is almost as fast as ever.
He is just rock solid. Even when not playing well, the opponent doesn't get too much to attack. They say Federe's longevity was amazing, I but suspect Djokovic will surpass that easily.
2. Anyone who thinks Nadal is anywhere close to being as fast as he was in the beginning of last decade needs to get their Tennis fan license revoked.
If Nadal had the speed of his youth and his shot making ability, serve and savvy of today, he would never drop a set.
I think after 2010 too. His CC forehand started to land more short around then which means he was probably a tad late getting to it so basically had to roll it in instead of getting there early and putting more angle and action on it.I think he slowed down the first time in 07, again in 09, and then again in 2014. The last time was the most extreme and it took him 2.5 years to adjust lol
Djokovic and Nadal are the best athletes in tennis ever , they have completely changed the game to a more physically demanding style . AO2012 will always be a remembered for their gladiator like fitness/ movement /speed .
Federer is a genius and very pleasing to watch . Djokodal are unique in themselves .
On topic , Djokovic' s flexibility and movement are still great.. His body looks like that of a 27 year old .
I disagree, S&V can be very stressful, both physically and mentally.It's gobsmacking that he (and Nadal tbh) can still do the things they did at their peak. Absolutely amazing. They are both older than Sampras was when he retired. And his game wasn't taxing like theirs.