Djokovic, Nadal, Alcaraz and the slam race

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mahatma

Hall of Fame
Few points that I think happened today -

1. First and foremost - Alcaraz showed he is no mug. A true heir to Big 3. That last set was where he showed his clutch game and nerveless attitude. Just gotta say - tennis is in safe hands

2. Djokovic showed why he is the greatest of all time. While having the slam record in his pocket, he still gave it all and it took some brilliant match play from Alcaraz to really win it. Anyone lower that today’s level of Alcaraz wasn’t winning it against this Novak.

3. USO will be massive. I don’t think Novak is done yet. Neither is Alcaraz going to go anywhere. We are in for another finals between these 2 I think

4. Slam record won’t move that easily now. Djokovic losing in Wimbledon - basically his home means - no surface is safe anymore. Alcaraz will be a massive threat in hard, clay and grass alike.

Also it’s a good news for Nadal somewhere that he can still comeback and probably show his godly game on clay and share the slam record. Highly unlikely, but not out of the realms of possibility with Nadal.


Djokovic didn’t lose like Fedals in their last slam matches so far. He lost in a final in a 5 setter against truly an ATG. He still will have his chances to win a few slams. I think another 1/2 slams. But it’s going to be tough.

What are your views? Where does slam race go now!
 
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Ray Mercer

Hall of Fame
mahatma said:
Few points that I think happened today -

1. First and foremost - Alcaraz showed he is no mug. A true heir to Big 3. That last set was where he showed his clutch game and nerveless attitude. Just gotta say - tennis is in safe hands

2. Djokovic showed why he is the greatest of all time. While having the slam record in his pocket, he still gave it all and it took some brilliant match play from Alcaraz to really win it. Anyone lower that today’s level of Alcaraz wasn’t winning it against this Novak.

3. USO will be massive. I don’t think Novak is done yet. Neither is Alcaraz going to go anywhere. We are in for another finals between these 2 I think

4. Slam record won’t move that easily now. Djokovic losing in Wimbledon - basically his home means - no surface is safe anymore. Alcaraz will be a massive threat in hard, clay and grass alike.

Also it’s a good news for Nadal somewhere that he can still comeback and probably show his godly game on clay and share the slam record. Highly unlikely, but not out of the realms of possibility with Nadal.


Djokovic didn’t lose like Fedals in their last slam matches so far. He lost in a final in a 5 setter against truly an ATG. He still will have his chances to win a few slams. I think another 1/2 slams. But it’s going to be tough.

What are your views? Where does slam race go now!
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Djokovic played like a pusher and deserved to lose. He should be thanking the gods that his competition has been a joke for as long as it’s been. I’m glad he’s done and hopefully Alcaraz puts him to bed for good at the US Open.
 
Djokovic_is_the_best#1

Djokovic_is_the_best#1

Bionic Poster
I think alcaraz will win us open.

Therefore, Australian open and french open will be vital for djokodal to try win another. Either that or Alcaraz completely dominates.

The window is closing though and Alcaraz might force it shut permanently.

Good news for Rafa is Alcaraz is better on hard court than clay too.

After next year it’s likely Alcaraz will be completely dominating but it might come even quicker
 
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mahatma

Hall of Fame
Djokovic_is_the_best#1 said:
I think alcaraz will win us open.

Therefore, Australian open and french open will be vital for djokodal to try win another. Either that or Alcaraz completely dominates.

The window is closing though and Alcaraz might force it shut permanently.

Good news for Rafa is Alcaraz is better on hard court than clay too.

After next year it’s likely Alcaraz will be completely dominating but it might come even quicker
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Agreed, Nadal can have one last hurrah at RG.

Djokovic wont go away easily though. It took a legendary performance from Alcaraz to beat Djokovic today. It won’t be possible to do the same every time for next 4-5 slams.

Djokovic surely will win 1/2 more slams.

I am completely discounting the field though in this discussion as I don’t see anyone beating these 2 for next 1 or 2 years. It would be a 10 to 12 match sort of rivalry with Alcaraz winning the rivalry 8-4 or something. But Djokovic will win another 1-2 slams and will call it a day.

25 slams will be the slam record and Alcaraz the only one chasing it for about next 5-10 years.
 
chjtennis

chjtennis

G.O.A.T.
I'm afraid Nadal may just retire any time now. Djokovic will be around and lurking, will jump on any opportunity to win slams. He will still be the 2nd favourite after Alcaraz for at least another year, or even longer.
 
Vanilla Slice

Vanilla Slice

Professional
Nadal maybe has a shot at one final slam at RG 2024. He might not even come back healthy, but this is definitely the last chance at 23.

Djokovic, I see winning 2 more still. AO24 and one more to end at 25. To god not to have one last great run and one where maybe Alcaraz gets taken out. Whips the field daily.

Alcaraz will get the CGS by 2025-2026. I see him being at 6-8 slams by end of 2026.

Nobody on the entire tour can convince me they can beat Djokovic and Alcaraz both to win a slam, let alone even one of them. The game is mental, and Alcaraz took out Rune, Medvedev and Djokovic on his owned presumed worst surface.
 
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PK6

Semi-Pro
Ray Mercer said:
Djokovic played like a pusher and deserved to lose. He should be thanking the gods that his competition has been a joke for as long as it’s been. I’m glad he’s done and hopefully Alcaraz puts him to bed for good at the US Open.
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Agreed-iokovic is done. No matter what anyone says it’s over. This was his chance to win 2nd grand slam in 3 years. It’s over
 
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messiahrobins

Legend
mahatma said:
Few points that I think happened today -

1. First and foremost - Alcaraz showed he is no mug. A true heir to Big 3. That last set was where he showed his clutch game and nerveless attitude. Just gotta say - tennis is in safe hands

2. Djokovic showed why he is the greatest of all time. While having the slam record in his pocket, he still gave it all and it took some brilliant match play from Alcaraz to really win it. Anyone lower that today’s level of Alcaraz wasn’t winning it against this Novak.

3. USO will be massive. I don’t think Novak is done yet. Neither is Alcaraz going to go anywhere. We are in for another finals between these 2 I think

4. Slam record won’t move that easily now. Djokovic losing in Wimbledon - basically his home means - no surface is safe anymore. Alcaraz will be a massive threat in hard, clay and grass alike.

Also it’s a good news for Nadal somewhere that he can still comeback and probably show his godly game on clay and share the slam record. Highly unlikely, but not out of the realms of possibility with Nadal.


Djokovic didn’t lose like Fedals in their last slam matches so far. He lost in a final in a 5 setter against truly an ATG. He still will have his chances to win a few slams. I think another 1/2 slams. But it’s going to be tough.

What are your views? Where does slam race go now!
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Slam race is a 50-50 call now as it appears Nadal is recovering very well and if he comes back he will be aiming to win slams. Alcaraz though may be a blessing or hinderance to those plans but i do feel at RG Rafa would be too much for Carlos in a final there. On the flip side if Alcaraz beat nadal in the final there most would proclaim alcaraz as goat. To be goat doesnt mean having the numbers. Saw it with federer soon after he beat sampras and nadal soon after w 2008 and ao 2009. Its hard to see alcaraz not now dominating grass and hard courts as his confidence will have soared. If nadal wins 2 majors next season beating alcaraz and djokovic along the way he will be goat. Djokovic if he wins slams next season beating alcaraz and nadal will be goat. Literally all to play for now.
More interesting than the slam race is the goat race. Alcaraz could usurp nadal and djokovic next season as he could win a golden slam, he is that complete. Make no mistake alcaraz will target the 4 majors and olympics next season as the chance to get the ultimate tennis achivement like graf 1988 only comes around once every 4 years.
YEsterday was seismic. Has changed everything. All on the line now next season. Straight shootout.
 
TheNachoMan

TheNachoMan

Legend
messiahrobins said:
Slam race is a 50-50 call now as it appears Nadal is recovering very well and if he comes back he will be aiming to win slams. Alcaraz though may be a blessing or hinderance to those plans but i do feel at RG Rafa would be too much for Carlos in a final there. On the flip side if Alcaraz beat nadal in the final there most would proclaim alcaraz as goat. To be goat doesnt mean having the numbers. Saw it with federer soon after he beat sampras and nadal soon after w 2008 and ao 2009. Its hard to see alcaraz not now dominating grass and hard courts as his confidence will have soared. If nadal wins 2 majors next season beating alcaraz and djokovic along the way he will be goat. Djokovic if he wins slams next season beating alcaraz and nadal will be goat. Literally all to play for now.
More interesting than the slam race is the goat race. Alcaraz could usurp nadal and djokovic next season as he could win a golden slam, he is that complete. Make no mistake alcaraz will target the 4 majors and olympics next season as the chance to get the ultimate tennis achivement like graf 1988 only comes around once every 4 years.
YEsterday was seismic. Has changed everything. All on the line now next season. Straight shootout.
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I hope Carlos wins RG. Then I will forgive him.
 
DSH

DSH

Talk Tennis Guru
TheNachoMan said:
If Novak wins USO or AO then I will allow it. 8-B
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I don't think he can win the US Open.
For a player of his age, it is the most difficult Major tournament because it is the last of the season and where there is, without a doubt, more competition.
Instead, at the Australian Open he still feels invincible and where he is most comfortable against his rivals.
:D
 
Topspin_80

Topspin_80

Hall of Fame
Ray Mercer said:
Djokovic played like a pusher and deserved to lose. He should be thanking the gods that his competition has been a joke for as long as it’s been. I’m glad he’s done and hopefully Alcaraz puts him to bed for good at the US Open.
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It'd be even nicer if he does it at AO 24.

I'm not sure uncle Craig can help " 7 nights Djokovic" to win another title.
 
Hitman

Hitman

Bionic Poster
mahatma said:
Few points that I think happened today -

1. First and foremost - Alcaraz showed he is no mug. A true heir to Big 3. That last set was where he showed his clutch game and nerveless attitude. Just gotta say - tennis is in safe hands

2. Djokovic showed why he is the greatest of all time. While having the slam record in his pocket, he still gave it all and it took some brilliant match play from Alcaraz to really win it. Anyone lower that today’s level of Alcaraz wasn’t winning it against this Novak.

3. USO will be massive. I don’t think Novak is done yet. Neither is Alcaraz going to go anywhere. We are in for another finals between these 2 I think

4. Slam record won’t move that easily now. Djokovic losing in Wimbledon - basically his home means - no surface is safe anymore. Alcaraz will be a massive threat in hard, clay and grass alike.

Also it’s a good news for Nadal somewhere that he can still comeback and probably show his godly game on clay and share the slam record. Highly unlikely, but not out of the realms of possibility with Nadal.


Djokovic didn’t lose like Fedals in their last slam matches so far. He lost in a final in a 5 setter against truly an ATG. He still will have his chances to win a few slams. I think another 1/2 slams. But it’s going to be tough.

What are your views? Where does slam race go now!
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Djokovic really responded with style at the very next slam to increase his grip, and pull even further ahead. We will see if that was the final blow that was needed to end it once and for all.
 
nolefam_2024

nolefam_2024

Bionic Poster
I think we nolefams need to face reality.

Nadal is done for the slam race. Even if he comes healthy and wins RG, which is very difficult now, he will still be behind Djokovic.

We try to spice things up mentioning Nadal and saying the race is still on when it's just dead in the water by now. We need to stop mentioning Nadal and Fed just to feel happy for ourselves.

While the race of slams may be just starting between Sinner and Raz. They are 16 and 14 years younger to Nole. Alcaraz is as much farther from Nole in age as Nole is from Pete.

So while it's good that these three can share slams for next 1 year hopefully the story now is Sinner and Raz.

Nole is just enjoying his time on the tour now. As he deserves.
 
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