Djokovic Nadal duopoly since 2008

nolefam_2024

Bionic Poster
Since 2008, we are living in Djokovic Nadal combined era.

Won 28/44 slams.
Won 53/99 masters 1000s
Won 5/10 WTFs
Ranked YE no1 for 8/10 years.

They won at least 2 slams for 10/11 years, only year missing is 2009 with only 1 slam.
They won 4 or more masters for 9/11 years, only years missing is 2010 and 2017.

In 2010-12, they won 9 consecutive slams.
In 2013-14, they won 9 consecutive masters, that's 9/9 never done before (Nadal won 4 Djokovic 5).

What an absolute domination these 2 have created.




Each of them won 14 slams in that time.

Djokovic won 29 masters and 5 ATP finales.
Nadal won 24 masters.


Last time both were absent from a slam, 2004 Wimbledon.
Last time both were absent from a masters, 2005 Madrid.
Last time both were absent from a WTF, 2005.




Federer is not far behind as he won 8 slams in this era.
1 RG, 1 USO, 3 AO, 3 Wimbledon (Career slam in this era).


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abmk

Bionic Poster
djokovic won 1 slam combined in 3 years from 2008-2010 and he was part of a duopoly then ? :D

similarly Nadal made 0 slam semis in 2015-2016. he was part of a duopoly then ?
djoko with his results from Wim 16 to RG 18 was part of a duopoly ?

no respect for a certain guy who won 8 slams, 2 YECs, many masters , was YE#1 once and YE#2 multiple times (arguably best player in another year as well) ?:rolleyes:
 

nolefam_2024

Bionic Poster
Similar analysis for Federer-Nadal for 11 consecutive years from 2004 to 2015.

Won 30/44 slams.
Won 48/99 masters 1000s
Won 6/11 WTFs
Ranked YE no1 for 7/11 years.

They won at least 2 slams for 8/11 years, only year missing is 2011, 2014, 2015.
They won 4 or more masters for 7/11 years, only years missing are 2008,2011,2014,2015

In 2005-2007, they won 11 consecutive slams.
In 2005, they won 8/9 masters 1000.

Federer won 16 slams, Nadal won 14
Federer won 21 masters and 6 WTFs, Nadal won 27 masters.


Fedal and Rafole are very equally dominant (especially when Novak has chance to win 6th WTF and 1 of them will be YE no1 in 2018).
But Fedal was more concentrated while Rafole were more spread out.



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mike danny

Bionic Poster
As a duo Fedal IMO were more prominent than Djokodal.

They were no.1 and no.2 every year from 2005 to 2010. That's 6 straight years of being in the top 2. They also won the vast majority of majors in that period. They won 21 of the 24 majors contested during that 6 year period.

Djokodal have never had consecutive years as top 2 players and have never dominated this extensively as a duo.

Objectively, Fedal is the better duo.
 

nolefam_2024

Bionic Poster
As a duo Fedal IMO were more prominent than Djokodal.

They were no.1 and no.2 every year from 2005 to 2010. That's 6 straight years of being in the top 2. They also won the vast majority of majors in that period. They won 21 of the 24 majors contested during that 6 year period.

Djokodal have never had consecutive years as top 2 players and have never dominated this extensively as a duo.

Objectively, Fedal is the better duo.

For shorter period yes.
 

NoleFam

Bionic Poster
As a duo Fedal IMO were more prominent than Djokodal.

They were no.1 and no.2 every year from 2005 to 2010. That's 6 straight years of being in the top 2. They also won the vast majority of majors in that period. They won 21 of the 24 majors contested during that 6 year period.

Djokodal have never had consecutive years as top 2 players and have never dominated this extensively as a duo.

Objectively, Fedal is the better duo.

I don't think the OP is disputing that. He is just saying for the past 10 years, Djokodal have been more prominent and dominant. It doesn't always have to be about who was better since we know Fedal together had a more concentrated domination.
 

mike danny

Bionic Poster
For shorter period yes.
6 years is a short period?

Even since 2008, Djokodal haven't been the dynamic duo. Only 3 finishes in the top 2, including this year, in 11 years. And when you also factor in that in 2008-2010 Djokovic was behind Fedal and not really Rafa's main rival and in 2015-2016 Rafa was irrelevant, you get the full picture.
 

NoleFam

Bionic Poster
6 years is a short period?

Even since 2008, Djokodal haven't been the dynamic duo. Only 3 finishes in the top 2, including this year, in 11 years. And when you also factor in that in 2008-2010 Djokovic was behind Fedal and not really Rafa's main rival and in 2015-2016 Rafa was irrelevant, you get the full picture.

Well since 2008, who has been the dynamic duo?
 

nolefam_2024

Bionic Poster
Fed and Rafa have been more dominant in shorter period but Djokovic and Nadal have been more dominant over long period.

Sometimes, one of them got down, because of injuries, but this is truly their era. When Fed faced them in this era, he is 5-13 vs them.
 

NoleFam

Bionic Poster
Fed and Rafa have been more dominant in shorter period but Djokovic and Nadal have been more dominant over long period.

Sometimes, one of them got down, because of injuries, but this is truly their era. When Fed faced them in this era, he is 5-13 vs them.

To be frank, since 2011 for the last 8 years, this has been the Djokovic era. He has just been kind enough to share the spotlight with two great legends. :D
 

VoodooChild24

Semi-Pro
I was lucky to have been able to watch both of them courtside the USOpen this year. I know they both have different games or style but one thing I deduced watching them close is that they both play alike. Great defenders that can turn defense into offense quick. They will out rally the opponent and make you play one more ball and make you error and frustrated.

No wonder they have won most of the tourneys in the last years.
 

mike danny

Bionic Poster
I don't think the OP is disputing that. He is just saying for the past 10 years, Djokodal have been more prominent and dominant. It doesn't always have to be about who was better.
Yes, I agree.

But they haven't consistently been prominent. They weren't in 2008-2010 and 2015-2016.
 

Steve0904

Talk Tennis Guru
Since 2010 or so is more accurate. I'd accept that, but since 2008 is stretching it. Federer was #1 in 2009 with the most slams.
 

NoleFam

Bionic Poster
Yes, I agree.

But they haven't consistently been prominent. They weren't in 2008-2010 and 2015-2016.

But they've won 14 Slams each since 2008. They may not have been dominating at the same time the entire time but they have the most achievements in the last 10 years. There's no denying that.
 

abmk

Bionic Poster
Since 2010 or so is more accurate. I'd accept that, but since 2008 is stretching it. Federer was #1 in 2009 with the most slams.

2010 was djokovic's worst year from 2007-2016.

2011 onwards is what should be acceptable IMO.
 

Northern

Hall of Fame
Djokovic is so boring though. Djokoray have the duopoly of boredom for sure. ATG yawn-inducing-fests.
 
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Deleted member 307496

Guest
Fed and Rafa have been more dominant in shorter period but Djokovic and Nadal have been more dominant over long period.

Sometimes, one of them got down, because of injuries, but this is truly their era. When Fed faced them in this era, he is 5-13 vs them.
Not surprising given they aren't Federer's generation... Against his own generation Federer was absolutely flawless. Actually, against Andy Murray Federer was about as brutal as he was to his own generation suggesting he could hang with Nadal and Djokovic peak for peak. Which is a given of course I'm sure...
 

upchuck

Hall of Fame
Djokovic is the player of the decade, a distinction he all but wrapped up by winning the US Open this year. That's more representative of what's taken place in the recent history of the sport than "Djokodal duopoly since 2008" imo.
 
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metsman

Talk Tennis Guru
14 slams in 10 years, very cute :D

Anyways, don't get why you picked 08 as the start besides to make it a round number of 10 years. 10-16 (10 RG to 16 RG) is really the Djokodal period even if Nadal was MIA the last couple years of that and Djokovic for the first. 19 of the 28. 10 RG-16 RG, 6 years exactly we have 19 of the 25.
 
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Deleted member 307496

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Majority of the Federers slams in this period of time (2008-2018) happened when Nadal or Djokovic were having some personal issues or being injured, Rafa (2009-2010) and Djoker (2017-2018)...
Nadal went through a drought period too that must mean 2015 is the strongest year of all time.
 
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