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Fiero425

Hall of Fame
So is YE-#1 basically guaranteed for Nole at some point or could Ned pull something out of his ass like his shorts?
I think after Thiem lost it was a done deal! Ned would have to pull out all the stops in the part of the season he's traditionally done poorly! I think he's skipping Paris Masters and he'd have to take that and the YEC! Why would he succeed this year over any other where he's only gotten to a couple finals? :whistle:
 

Third Serve

G.O.A.T.
I think after Thiem lost it was a done deal! Ned would have to pull out all the stops in the part of the season he's traditionally done poorly! I think he's skipping Paris Masters and he'd have to take that and the YEC! Why would he succeed this year over any other where he's only gotten to a couple finals? :whistle:
Rule number 1: Never rule out anything in 2020.

We are living Murphy’s Law.
 

Tennis_Freak99

Hall of Fame
If Djokovic wins the SF vs Tsitsipas AND Nadal doesn't enter any tournament in October, He is the confirmed YE#1 even if Nadal wins both Bercy and WTF.

Nadal can't enter St Petersburg(500) and the other 3 250's starting from 12th October. He can play Antwerp(250)/Cologne(250) starting 19th October OR play Vienna(500)/Astana(250) starting 26th October. He has to win one of these October tournaments AND win Bercy+WTF , if at all he does enter.

So yeah, Novak in the final will pretty much guarantee his #6th YE!
 
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Fiero425

Hall of Fame
If Djokovic wins the SF vs Tsitsipas AND Nadal doesn't enter any tournament in October, He is the confirmed YE#1 even if Nadal wins both Bercy and WTF.

Nadal can't enter St Petersburg(500) and the other 3 250's starting from 12th October. He can play Antwerp(250)/Cologne(250) starting 19th October OR play Vienna(500)/Astana(250) starting 26th October. He has to win one of these October tournaments AND win Bercy+WTF , if at all he does enter.

So yeah, Novak in the final will pretty much guarantee his #6th YE!
That'll tie him with Sampras with 6! He has a real chance for a couple more believe it or not! :sneaky:
 

N01E

Professional
Not quite yet. After dropping WTF 2019 points Djokovic leads Nadal by 1610. I doubt Nadal will play any 500s, but if we include one, then he can earn up to 2640 with it and Bercy+WTF (2140 without the 500 obviously). Thiem on the other hand can get 1610 with Bercy+WTF (He won Vienna last year so can't get more points there). He's 2735 points behind Djokovic though, so he's out of it now. Novak himself can add 2580 (3080 with a 500) and if he wins RG then it's a done deal. If Novak reaches and loses in the RG final (would extend the lead to 2090 points) then Nadal would have to win both Bercy and WTF with winning all of his RR matches AND Novak would have to lose all of his (assuming neither plays in any other events). If Nadal doesn't win Bercy and doesn’t play any other events then it's a done deal.
With lead going to 2090 Nadal could technically still end the year as #1, but only if he win RG, Bercy and WTF without losing any RR matches while Novak loses all of his. We still have to wait for official news regarding keeping the points pre-April from 2020 until 2022, but if it's confirmed then RG or WTF can decide the record.
 

Fiero425

Hall of Fame
With lead going to 2090 Nadal could technically still end the year as #1, but only if he win RG, Bercy and WTF without losing any RR matches while Novak loses all of his. We still have to wait for official news regarding keeping the points pre-April from 2020 until 2022, but if it's confirmed then RG or WTF can decide the record.
Nole gained a few points by making the final in Paris! That's something; add 480 pts.! :laughing:
 

NoleFam

Talk Tennis Guru
Just an update:

Djokovic now has a lead over Nadal of 1890 points no matter what happens Sunday. Considering the announcement from the ATP about ranking points being kept until March 2021, Djokovic is now in prime position to break the record next March.
 

N01E

Professional
Nole gained a few points by making the final in Paris! That's something; add 480 pts.! :laughing:
It's already included.
Just an update:

Djokovic now has a lead over Nadal of 1890 points no matter what happens Sunday. Considering the announcement from the ATP about ranking points being kept until March 2021, Djokovic is now in prime position to break the record next March.
With WTF points dropping it will be 2090 points, so 50 points more for Novak and it's mathematically done (for this year) though it's practically his now. Will take a look at his chances for the record after RG.
 

NoleFam

Talk Tennis Guru
It's already included.

With WTF points dropping it will be 2090 points, so 50 points more for Novak and it's mathematically done (for this year) though it's practically his now. Will take a look at his chances for the record after RG.
Yes plus he was abysmal at WTF last year. He should be able to improve on that performance and add more points.
 

Djokodal Fan

Hall of Fame
Just an update:

Djokovic now has a lead over Nadal of 1890 points no matter what happens Sunday. Considering the announcement from the ATP about ranking points being kept until March 2021, Djokovic is now in prime position to break the record next March.
Guys, just forget the lead in poins to be W#1. I personally don't care whether he in #1 or #2. Wish him luck to win this French open. His task is cut out. But him and only him has the best shot to take down Nadal at Rollan Garros. Keeping fingers crossed!
 

NoleFam

Talk Tennis Guru
Guys, just forget the lead in poins to be W#1. I personally don't care whether he in #1 or #2. Wish him luck to win this French open. His task is cut out. But him and only him has the best shot to take down Nadal at Rollan Garros. Keeping fingers crossed!
I know but the record is close. Lol. He is in a really good position right now though.
 

FedeRadi

Rookie
Another record Nole fans:

Djokovic has now reached the final of all 4 Slams over the age of 30. He is probably the 1st since Laver or Rosewall to do it but I would need someone really good with stats to confirm.
Rosewall was 34 at the beginning of Open Era, and he reached all 4 GS finals.
Roland Garros 1968(34) and 1969(35).
Wimbledon 1970(36) and 1974(40).
US Open 1970(36) and 1974(40).
Australian Open 1971(37) and 1972(38).

He, technically, accomplished these after Laver(1969) in 1971 with his first AO final in OE.
It's not strictly necessary counts only the Open Era, he became Pro at 23, so he never won a Slam "after 30" before the OE.

So he's the third after Laver and Rosewall.

I'm pretty sure only Roger(Miss RG) and Rafa(Miss Wimbledon) featured this achievement in 3 out of 4 GS.
 

S'in-net

Semi-Pro
It's 4/4 all in GS finals Djokovic/Nadal

We are now at the ninth gate...


...And Nadal crossed the equally important ninth gate vs Federer, at the 2017 Aus open, as a loser
 

NoleFam

Talk Tennis Guru
Rosewall was 34 at the beginning of Open Era, and he reached all 4 GS finals.
Roland Garros 1968(34) and 1969(35).
Wimbledon 1970(36) and 1974(40).
US Open 1970(36) and 1974(40).
Australian Open 1971(37) and 1972(38).

He, technically, accomplished these after Laver(1969) in 1971 with his first AO final in OE.
It's not strictly necessary counts only the Open Era, he became Pro at 23, so he never won a Slam "after 30" before the OE.

So he's the third after Laver and Rosewall.

I'm pretty sure only Roger(Miss RG) and Rafa(Miss Wimbledon) featured this achievement in 3 out of 4 GS.
Those Rosewall number are ridiculous. Nobody is doing that at that age. I guess Novak doing it at 31 (Wimbledon, USO, AO), 32 (AO, Wimbledon) and 33 (RG) makes him older than Laver when he did it, but Rosewall is still the top dog as far reaching Slam finals in his 30s.
 

Shangri La

Hall of Fame
How was Djoko physically in today’s match? His QF was worrying. If he is physically 80% ready then I see Nadal has little chance in the final.
 

FedeRadi

Rookie
Those Rosewall number are ridiculous. Nobody is doing that at that age. I guess Novak doing it at 31 (Wimbledon, USO, AO), 32 (AO, Wimbledon) and 33 (RG) makes him older than Laver when he did it, but Rosewall is still the top dog as far reaching Slam finals in his 30s.
Confirmed. Laver reached his last GS final at 31.
I didn't check birth date for Rosewall, only the year, so probably he was one year younger than what I wrote in some GS finals. But this doesn't change what you are saying.
 

NoleFam

Talk Tennis Guru
Confirmed. Laver reached his last GS final at 31.
I didn't check birth date for Rosewall, only the year, so probably he was one year younger than what I wrote in some GS finals. But this doesn't change what you are saying.
He was still old...haha. Good job finding this info btw. (y)
 

Shaj

Rookie
He played a stupid and timid game @ 5-4 and then Tsitsipas was super brave at that point..He had nothing to lose by then..It happens..I wanted Nole to lose his temper,show some emotion but he was very calm..Maybe he could have closed by 4 sets if he had burst out..

But he was Goating in the 5th set.. There was no stopping him..Also he looked fresh in the 5th set and by the end of the match..
 

Biotic

Rookie
Well, if given 10 more chances to play this match, I think he would do better each time. I'm afraid another RG is not happening.

Not to discredit Nadal's effort, he was sublime.

There's always next year for Novak. AO is just around the corner, and Wimbledon will hopefully be on the calendar. He should focus on faster courts like Fed did post 2014.
 

Mkiske

Semi-Pro
There was just a little bit of contention in the last set.
Indeed, it reminded the AO-19 with inverted papers.
 

Tenacity

Hall of Fame
Disappointing match from Novak, paired with how well Rafa played those 2 sets. Nonetheless full respect and admiration to Rafa, madman on RG clay.

NoleFam look forward to record equaling YE#1 and if all goes according to the plan and Roger's record at weeks at #1 too. Those are some pretty important and swag stats and records.
 

Djoker11

New User
Commiserations Novak fans

Doesn't change the fact that Novak is still a GOAT

Not his best day but still didn't stop him making the most out of the last set.

Only upwards here heading to his favourite part of the season...

Respect to you mate and congrats on your boys win and for matching Rogers 20! Personally I think us Novak fans shouldn't be too down, he was outplayed today and while I didn't agree with novaks tactics, end of the day he wasn't ever really in the game, Rafa was ruthless today and played clay court perfection. Onto the Aussie open next :)
 

InsideOut900

Hall of Fame
Disappointing match from Novak, paired with how well Rafa played those 2 sets. Nonetheless full respect and admiration to Rafa, madman on RG clay.

NoleFam look forward to record equaling YE#1 and if all goes according to the plan and Roger's record at weeks at #1 too. Those are some pretty important and swag stats and records.
Today was not a fight he could take. Bad performance or not, Nadal was out of this world.

He dominated Nadal even harder in the AO 19 final, winning 63% of the points(vs 58% today for Nadal), so it's basically the mirror scenario.

If he wins Tour Finals I am gonna be fine with this year. Getting 18 at USO would have been a big deal though.
 

Djoker11

New User
Today was not a fight he could take. Bad performance or not, Nadal was out of this world.

He dominated Nadal even harder in the AO 19 final, winning 63% of the points(vs 58% today for Nadal), so it's basically the mirror scenario.

If he wins Tour Finals I am gonna be fine with this year. Getting 18 at USO would have been a big deal though.
Tbf Novak could have had a shot at this final but his tactics were very wrong today, attacking the Nadal forehand is a tactic that works very well against him when playing on a hard court with the faster surface and lower bounce, doing that on clay was suicide today. Constantly drop shorting was complete and utter disrespect to Nadals movement and Nadal completely took advantage of that tactic (barely any seem to take him by surprise). Strangely enough Novak started to have a bit of success (albeit very minor) against Nadal in the 3rd set when he cut out the drop shots and started attacking the backhand of Nadal but was sadly too little too late
 

RF-18

Talk Tennis Guru
Just get back on the horse for Nole. Congratulate Nadal on this amazing performance and move on. He can't win every time. Still alot to play for and records to hunt, and he is still the best in the world by far. Nole as many times before, will rise from defeat. Don't feel too sad about this Djoko fans.

Idemo Nole!
 

Tennis_Freak99

Hall of Fame
I feel a lot better already to be honest. Maybe the fact that he was never close to winning makes it hurt a lot less than a match like the 2013 semifinal for instance. And if anyone can bounce back from a defeat like this it's Djokovic.
Actually I feel worse about 2013 even more after this. Beating prime Nadal at RG DAMN! He was really close.

Also makes one realise how much Novak has declined on clay! Still manages to win masters and reach RG SF/F
 

Djokovic2011

Bionic Poster
Actually I feel worse about 2013 even more after this. Beating prime Nadal at RG DAMN! He was really close.

Also makes one realise how much Novak has declined on clay! Still manages to win masters and reach RG SF/F
Yeah it's disappointing but if someone had told me after the USO debacle that he'd go on to win Rome and be RU at RG, only losing to an unbelievable Nadal in the final, I'd've taken it.
 
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