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InsideOut900

Hall of Fame
It would feel like garbage if Novak were to lose YE#1.

I would only blame the stupid pacing post-Wimbledon. Played Olympics, then entered USO rusty as a result of underplaying because he skipped Cinci. Had no rhythm at the USO as a result and we all know how much he struggled the whole two weeks.
 
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TheAssassin

Legend
I would have ditched the lolympics completely (and I think playing doubles there was his undoing in singles as he was in control against Zverev until a complete intensity collapse) but who am I to talk. He didn't want to sacrifice his last realistic shot there for the sake of another year end number 1, for which he is a clear favorite as it is now anyway. I'd say no reason to panic but that has fallen on deaf ears a lot of times this season. And considering what a season Djokovic has had, that's very disappointing.
 

BAP

New User
The guy is 74 years old. The sport is long past him. He's being critical of Djokovic because Djokovic isn't some 2 faced robot like the other guys who act nice when winning but then make a hell of a lot of excuses when losing.
The fact that the sport is long past him only describes a state of affairs in which the class and composure of what tennis embodied has passed on to tennis brats and tantrums. This is exactly what he has a right to decry. Pity that more don’t understand it. Btw I’m not old but the greatest thing tennis can provide a young person is a lesson in how to take lumps and how to win. It’s character. Emerson has more than a right here; when you know more and stand for more than someone else it could be said you have an obligation to speak
 

N01E

Hall of Fame
IW posted that he's playing only on their FB page, while they announced Osaka's withdrawal on FB, IG and twitter.
 

N01E

Hall of Fame
He isn't playing IW lol. He isn't moving anywhere from Europe until the start of the next season.
Probably, especially since like I said they didn't post it on IG and twitter like all other announcements (more likely that they made a mistake on 1 platform than on 2).
 

Enceladus

Legend
Two weeks after the US Open, I still feel very disappointed with Nole's failed campaign at USO. :( I have been taking a break from TTW for the last two weeks and I will continue to do so for some time, I don't plan to write too many posts in the coming days, if at all.

Nole couldn't get rid of the pressure of CYGS and 21th GS title, I guess he thought more about these things than would be good. I mean, he should have approached the 2021 USO like any other GS event.

I hope now, that Djoker will be able to get the 7th YE1, it would be very strange till ridiculous if a player with 3 GS titles in the season didn't finish the year in 1st place.
 

Hitman

G.O.A.T.
I always feel some kind of way as Graf went about her business after Seles stabbed! Never cared for either player, but I still SMH as Graf accumulated titles and weeks at #1 while Seles was "getting over" being assaulted by a German Graf fan! Wow! :unsure: :notworthy: :cautious: :happydevil:
Which is why I personally don't put too much weight in Graf's numbers and I saw her entire run. Her weeks at number one and slam count would be lower if Seles was still around, who had her number at the time, and even at Wimbledon made her first final, meaning even on grass she was starting her assault.
 
Yes, I agree with this.

I wouldn't worry too much about the 377, as Djokovic already is set to reach that level around Wimbledon unless Medvedev literally wins everything between now and then. I was surprised after the US Open loss, Djokovic was thinking that Medvedev had passed him as No. 1, so I was thinking Djokovic will not reach as many weeks as I had hoped because it is clearly not that important to him.

However, now that he is entering IW, I think he has realized that these records he wants to reach are connected to weeks at No. 1, slam wins, Masters 1000 wins, and so on. I still think he has a chance to reach 500 weeks, but only if Medvedev or another player doesn't consistently stay about the other players who are in the Top Ten, in essence, making it a Top Two plus the 8 lower-tiered guys.

In other words, Djokovic will have a lot more weeks if the Top Ten players are all splitting points, and he is above them due to his all court abilities.
 

Fiero425

Hall of Fame
Which is why I personally don't put too much weight in Graf's numbers and I saw her entire run. Her weeks at number one and slam count would be lower if Seles was still around, who had her number at the time, and even at Wimbledon made her first final, meaning even on grass she was starting her assault.
I didn't watch the Wimbledon Final with Graf & Seles, but the points I saw were phenomenal with great "gets" on old, choppy grass IIRC! The score didn't reflect the inevitable outcome; also taking hours to complete because of multiple rain stoppages! :laughing: :giggle::-D:happydevil:
 

lucky13

Semi-Pro
Which is why I personally don't put too much weight in Graf's numbers and I saw her entire run. Her weeks at number one and slam count would be lower if Seles was still around, who had her number at the time, and even at Wimbledon made her first final, meaning even on grass she was starting her assault.
both grafs and noles weeks records are asterisked. grafs because her fan has taken seles from her path when seles was better and younger than her and nole was stolen for 22 weeks due to ATP covid rules.
 

Fiero425

Hall of Fame
both grafs and noles weeks records are asterisked. grafs because her fan has taken seles from her path when seles was better and younger than her and nole was stolen for 22 weeks due to ATP covid rules.
Get your blood pressure medicine in bulk! No matter what Djokovic does his detractors will want to "Asterisk" all his numbers! Years ago it started with the so called issue of age disparity between Djokovic and Federer; in their opinion nearing Social Security benefitting! It doesn't matter Nole's just 1 year younger than Rafa making Fedal "Fedal!" Then there's the issue of Nadal's injuries! He only loses matches due to injury! Like he was forced to play all these yrs & suffered even thru the winning! YAWN :notworthy: :sneaky: :unsure:
 

Tshooter

G.O.A.T.
It would be a shame to not finish #1 in a season where you won 27/28 GS matches.
You are #1 in a season when you’ve won 27/28 GS matches. If the ranking system and the post-USO Exo/appearance money season doesn’t reflect that reality then the problem is the ranking system.
 

Fiero425

Hall of Fame
You are #1 in a season when you’ve won 27/28 GS matches. If the ranking system and the post-USO Exo/appearance money season doesn’t reflect that reality then the problem is the ranking system.
With Novak skipping IW's, he;s putting himself in jeapardy of losing the YE #1 ranking! Thank goodness Daniil has a ton of points to defend thru the YEC/WTF! Hopefully Nole gets some rest, but gets back on court to make sure he acquires that 7th YE #1 to set himself apart form Fedal and Sampras! :cautious: :unsure: :whistle:
 
With Novak skipping IW's, he;s putting himself in jeapardy of losing the YE #1 ranking! Thank goodness Daniil has a ton of points to defend thru the YEC/WTF! Hopefully Nole gets some rest, but gets back on court to make sure he acquires that 7th YE #1 to set himself apart form Fedal and Sampras! :cautious: :unsure: :whistle:
Remember, this year the YE No. 1 is calculated on points won this year and not the no. 1 ranking points where some points carry over. Djokovic is pretty safe for No. 1 ranking though he may lose a week after IW if Medvedev wins that. The bigger issue is Medvedev is only about 2000 points behind for the YE No. 1.

I hope Novak works to defend that at Paris, maybe Vienna, and the Turin YE Championships.
 
Remember, this year the YE No. 1 is calculated on points won this year and not the no. 1 ranking points where some points carry over. Djokovic is pretty safe for No. 1 ranking though he may lose a week after IW if Medvedev wins that. The bigger issue is Medvedev is only about 2000 points behind for the YE No. 1.

I hope Novak works to defend that at Paris, maybe Vienna, and the Turin YE Championships.
What a mess, the ranking is lol. So there is a quite possible and probable scenario in which Djokovic will count his weeks at #1 but he won't be awarded with the YE #1 finish. So practically we will have two number 1s at the end of the year? Am I correct? :oops:
 

FedeRadi

Rookie
What a mess, the ranking is lol. So there is a quite possible and probable scenario in which Djokovic will count his weeks at #1 but he won't be awarded with the YE #1 finish. So practically we will have two number 1s at the end of the year? Am I correct? :oops:
Although it looks unlikely now, there is scenario where a player who has never been #1 in the rankings would have been 2021 YE#1.
It was very possible if Tsitsipas would had won USO, he would have been only 1000 points far from Djokovic in the race, with a fair shot to finish YE#1(Who scores more points in 2021). But with Djokovic points from 2019/2020, it would be unlikely Tsitsipas could surpass him in the ranking.
So, he could have been a YE#1 player with best ranking at #2.

I think that can happen with Medvedev too, but I don't think it's a likely outcome. If Medvedev wants to contend YE#1 to Nole, he has to score points now and surpass for rankings #1 him before he has to defend Paris and WTF.
 
What a mess, the ranking is lol. So there is a quite possible and probable scenario in which Djokovic will count his weeks at #1 but he won't be awarded with the YE #1 finish. So practically we will have two number 1s at the end of the year? Am I correct? :oops:
That is correct.

It is because the ranking system includes things like half points for tournaments before Cincinnati. Under normal circumstances the YE #1 is the same as the No. 1 ranked player.
 

BlueB

Legend
That is not correct. The half points stand for all the rankings until they get dropped. Which is until a player played that tournament and got better points out of it, or when the "covid system" completely ended.
 
BlueB,

I am not sure we are answering the same question. For the YE No.1, only the points this year count. For the ranking as the No. 1 player, there are COVID points on tournaments all the way until the Canadian Open where a player can retain half the points they earned from 2020. That means that things will continue to be different until the Canadian Open is played next year and then everything is back to normal.
 

NoleFam

Talk Tennis Guru
Some rumours from the earth mightiest camp. Apparently he will resume practising in the next few weeks, and he is planning to play Paris, Turin and the DC. Let's see what happens...
Screw the DC. The other two are important though and I hope he does play them. Sounds like he needed a break and hasn't even been practicing. Probably for the best.
 
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