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upchuck

Hall of Fame
Very interested in seeing how this tournament ends for him. He's played some really good matches at the YEC in recent years and not won the title. This year, yet again, he's playing really good matches at the YEC.
 
He seems full of confidence!

If he loses against Zverev he will still be 2400 points ahead of Medvedev even if he wins the tournament.
If Djokovic beats Zverev and loses to Medvedev, he will be 2800 points ahead of Medvedev.
If Djokovic wins over Medvedev, then he will be a whopping 3800 points ahead. Next two matches are really important, not to mention possibly tying Federer fro YECs.
The 3800 points ahead would likely get him to Wimbledon as continuous No. 1 especially if he plays AO which I think it likely.
 

Fiero425

Hall of Fame
They said only vaxed will be able to play. So no Novak in AO. Will also lose No1 soon after...
You're assuming Medvedev will hold up to the pressure of being seeded #1 at AO if Nole doesn't go "down under!" Heavy is the head that wears the crown! :notworthy: ;):D:happydevil:
 
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TripleATeam

G.O.A.T.
Not really, Novak still is confirmed for 357 weeks after the final`, BUT now both Zverev and Medvedev can pass him after the AO
While it may be true, that also means that points are more evenly distributed between Med and Zed, which means it will be harder for either to actually hit #1. The more even everyone else's distribution, the longer Novak is #1. For instance, it would be very bad if Med won the USO, WTF, then the AO.
 

N01E

Hall of Fame
I guess Zverev winning is good news for Djoko's guaranteed weeks at #1?
Excluding ATP Cup and AO their ranking points are:

1. Djokovic - 8875
2. Zverev - 7055
3. Medvedev - 6940

Excluding ATP Cup in order to get the #1 Zverev would need to win AO with Djokovic not reaching 4th round and Medvedev would have to win it with Novak not reaching 3rd round. I'd say Zverev winning is better for Djokovic in theory as Medvedev is more likely to win AO and points will be more spread. That makes it harder to stay #1 just after the AO, but easier to reclaim it in the long run.
 

Biotic

Hall of Fame
Excluding ATP Cup and AO their ranking points are:

1. Djokovic - 8875
2. Zverev - 7055
3. Medvedev - 6940

Excluding ATP Cup in order to get the #1 Zverev would need to win AO with Djokovic not reaching 4th round and Medvedev would have to win it with Novak not reaching 3rd round. I'd say Zverev winning is better for Djokovic in theory as Medvedev is more likely to win AO and points will be more spread. That makes it harder to stay #1 just after the AO, but easier to reclaim it in the long run.
Looks like Lolympics is where he messed up. Should've gone to Canada/Cinci instead. Let's hope he plays (and wins :)) AO, as there's almost no points to defend until Rome (IW + Miami + MC + Madrid). Although doubtful he even goes to US.
 

Visionary

Hall of Fame
He is done with US. No reason to go there. Hope he gets vaccinated. Who knows, maybe other slams also request vaccine in order to play, so it will be stupid not to play AO and to get vaccine later into season. And i guess no way of him missing other slams if they also require proof of vaccination.
A true rookie response! Sorry but Novak is not done regardless ;)
 
Well if he refuses to get vaxxed and pulls out of AO and ATP Cup, he deserves to get passed.

So far he is 2900 ahead of Med and 3700 ahead of Zed. He won't lose no1 if he plays AO, even if he doesn't win.
Novak should do what it is best for him. If that’s not getting vaccinated and missing AO then I support him. I got vaccinated and obviously for the world it’s best as many get vaccinated as possible. Still no one should be forced against their will if they uncomfortable with it or had bad reactions to vaccines in past.
 

One

Rookie
A true rookie response! Sorry but Novak is not done regardless ;)
Why? He won IW and Miami more than enought times, he wont go there for points, and clay season starts 2 weeks after that. Maybe if his kids want to see the desert and Miami beach, but they are still too young.
 

Visionary

Hall of Fame
Why? He won IW and Miami more than enought times, he wont go there for points, and clay season starts 2 weeks after that. Maybe if his kids want to see the desert and Miami beach, but they are still too young.
I don't get it. Why did you quote me?
 

BadPusher

New User
I agree with those above who say that Djokovic won't play the Australian Open, and I say good for him. If you don't want the vax, then you shouldn't get it. Once they have 5 to 10 years of data on possible long-term effects, I might get the vax myself, but not before then, and they can take my job if they want to. I don't want it that bad. I'm not even a Djokovic fan. I'm a Nadal guy through and through on the tennis front. But if Djoker tells Australia to jump in a lake, I might have to begrudgingly become a fan after all.
 

Bubcay

Hall of Fame
I agree with those above who say that Djokovic won't play the Australian Open, and I say good for him. If you don't want the vax, then you shouldn't get it. Once they have 5 to 10 years of data on possible long-term effects, I might get the vax myself, but not before then, and they can take my job if they want to. I don't want it that bad. I'm not even a Djokovic fan. I'm a Nadal guy through and through on the tennis front. But if Djoker tells Australia to jump in a lake, I might have to begrudgingly become a fan after all.
The problem might be that more and more tournaments could introduce this requirement, meaning that he might not be able to play a lot, thus undercutting his quest for records.
 

DjokoLand

Hall of Fame
I agree with those above who say that Djokovic won't play the Australian Open, and I say good for him. If you don't want the vax, then you shouldn't get it. Once they have 5 to 10 years of data on possible long-term effects, I might get the vax myself, but not before then, and they can take my job if they want to. I don't want it that bad. I'm not even a Djokovic fan. I'm a Nadal guy through and through on the tennis front. But if Djoker tells Australia to jump in a lake, I might have to begrudgingly become a fan after all.
The problem is that yes Djokovic should have to get it if he doesn’t want it but considering he doesn’t live in Australia they have the right to demand vaccination to travel there.
 
The problem might be that more and more tournaments could introduce this requirement, meaning that he might not be able to play a lot, thus undercutting his quest for records.
I think it's quite clear and obvious what is happening here and what he needs to decide, either he gets vaccinated or he retires, there isn't any viable third option for him in the future tbh.
 

BadPusher

New User
I'm only guessing of course, after all I don't sleep in his bed at night, but I think he will tell Australia thanks but no thanks. Then, he will wait to see what Roland Garros and Wimbledon do. It's very possible that they won't mandate the vaccine, as Australia has been much more draconian than France or the UK during this ordeal. If they were to mandate the vaccine also, maybe he would start to waver, but I hope not. I think he is quite sincere in valuing his liberty and freedom of thought, and hopefully he would see that those are more important than records. Anybody who thinks he lacks mental strength should re-watch his matches. Time will tell what he decides to do.
 

Tenacity

Hall of Fame
He has until 6th of December to confirm his participation for AO (i.e 6 weeks before the event) meaning we will know by then if he is going there, which means he has been vaccinated the whole time, just didn't want to disclose it, which is his right to do so.
 

Bubcay

Hall of Fame
Guys he's in Austraia where you can't go anywhere public without being vaccinated.... come on use your brains
There will be no public at the DC matches in Austria, and vaccination is not a condition of entry into the country. So he could be there without necessarily being vaccinated...

"Travelers who have exclusively been to a “country or territory with low epidemiological risk” (listed in Annex 1 of the COVID-19 Entry Regulation) in the past 10 days may enter Austria without quarantine or pre-travel-registration if they provide upon entry a certificate of vaccination, a certificate of recovery or a negative COVID-19 test result. "
 

Hayole

Rookie
There will be no public at the DC matches in Austria, and vaccination is not a condition of entry into the country. So he could be there without necessarily being vaccinated...

"Travelers who have exclusively been to a “country or territory with low epidemiological risk” (listed in Annex 1 of the COVID-19 Entry Regulation) in the past 10 days may enter Austria without quarantine or pre-travel-registration if they provide upon entry a certificate of vaccination, a certificate of recovery or a negative COVID-19 test result. "
I read that but i just don't see him not being vaccinated

But we'll all know for sure in 2 weeks anyways
 

mehdimike

Professional
He has until 6th of December to confirm his participation for AO (i.e 6 weeks before the event) meaning we will know by then if he is going there, which means he has been vaccinated the whole time, just didn't want to disclose it, which is his right to do so.
How come? Is it a rule or something else in this case?
 

nachiket nolefam

Hall of Fame
I hope he does not get vaccinated and does not play. He is healthy and not a risk to anyone. In fact, the vaccinated are a much higher "spread risk" because (1) they can still get and spread Covid; (2) their symptoms are reduced so they may not realize they have it, and (3) if they get it, they carry Covid virus at a much higher "viral load" level than the unvaccinated.
I have already had my booster shot and can't support the asinine cause of novaxing. Let's see. History won't remember his stance like Muhammad Ali. But let everyone make their own choice. Make your choice and be ready for consequences.
 

NAS

Hall of Fame
I have already had my booster shot and can't support the asinine cause of novaxing. Let's see. History won't remember his stance like Muhammad Ali. But let everyone make their own choice. Make your choice and be ready for consequences.
You already have your booster? this really sucks, so after having my 2 dose vaccine now I have to take booster for every 4 month with no reliable data. Why they are not waiting for complete finsh data before starting booster
 

nachiket nolefam

Hall of Fame
You already have your booster? this really sucks, so after having my 2 dose vaccine now I have to take booster for every 4 month with no reliable data. Why they are not waiting for complete finsh data before starting booster
I am no scientist. Still it feels much better having vaccinated.
 

nachiket nolefam

Hall of Fame
But the point is how many times, they have not perfected any covid vaccine till date( that is why companies are asking indemnity)
Really don't want any booster, I already tested positive later got my vaccine
Good for you. Everyone can make their own choice but now it's time to draw a line.
 

Tennisfan339

Professional
What if Novak can't be vaccinated because of certain medical reasons? That is a condition by which you have exemption in many cases and then you can do test
Doesn't Djokovic suffer from asthma or some similar Respiratory disease? I recall he had to pull out of a lot of matches when he was young because of those breathing issues. AO 2009 against Roddick or Wimbledon 2007 against Nadal for instance.
I know for a fact some categories of asthmatic people can't be forced to be vaccinated. It will just cause more health issues than if you don't get vaccinated at all. Your doctor signs a medical certificate to notify the pathology, says you can't get the vaccine and you're exempted. Then you have to be tested every 48h. At least in my state I heard examples like this. I'm sure Djokovic could easily play this card if he wants to... he wouldn't even be lying or cheating.

Either way I support Djokovic's (and all the players for that matter) decision, whether he takes it or not. No matter what decision he makes it'll be the right one. I just think it'll be a shame if this is THE big reason why he's stuck at 20 Slams forever.... or worse, if he is forced to retire next year. I don't want the slam race to depend on this grim factor. I hope it won't go to such extremes.
 

alinefx

Rookie
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