Djokovic News

[Neptune]

Unthinkable greatness—the GOAT is in his own tier. Fedal are much closer to other all-time greats than to the GOAT.
Attention, please, if you notice anyone's top10 weight above 24% or top5 weight above 13%.

Career​	Overall​	vs Top10​	T10 Match Weight​	T10 Win Weight​	vs Top5​	T5 Match Weight​	T5 Win Weight​
Nole​	1339 (1118-221) 83.50%​	373 (258-115) 69.17%​	27.86%​	23.08%​	202 (123-79) 60.89%​	15.09%​	11.00%​
Fed​	1526 (1251-275) 81.98%​	347 (224-123) 64.55%​	22.74%​	17.91%​	179 (104-75) 58.10%​	11.73%​	8.31%​
Rafa​	1300 (1075-225) 82.69%​	289 (186-103) 64.36%​	22.23%​	17.30%​	154 (93-61) 60.39%​	11.85%​	8.65%​

Just a few other top10 weight% FYI: (Note that percentages for Becker and older generations may be less accurate due to less clearly defined rankings).
Pete 19.82%
Borg 20.54%
Lendl 19.60%
Mcenroe 20.67%
Edberg 19.72%
Becker 20.17%
Agassi 17.40%
Murray 20.08%
Hewitt 15.72%
Roddick 13.37%
Medvedev 17.70%
Zverev 18.51%

 

[Shaj]

If he was not mentally upto it for US Open, should have just skipped it, just wasted everybodys time. Whole of US Open is a waste for me now. I care a damn about who wins it now. Wouldnt mind Tiafoe winning it.

 

[Cortana]

I think the OG final has shown that Djokovic hasn‘t really declined yet. I bet that 2024 Djokovic would have beaten every other Djokovic in all Olympics matches. He was very close to his peak, everything clicked.

It‘s all about motivation this late in his career. If he wants 25 slams, he‘ll win 25 slams.

 

[Djokovic2011]

I think the OG final has shown that Djokovic hasn‘t really declined yet. I bet that 2024 Djokovic would have beaten every other Djokovic in all Olympics matches. He was very close to his peak, everything clicked.

It‘s all about motivation this late in his career. If he wants 25 slams, he‘ll win 25 slams.

I think even Djokovic may find it a little difficult to win 25 slams from here on out.

 

[pico]

Lets not be discouraged. Do you think Novak will just let a Slamless year go by like that? Of course not. If anything, he will be hellbent on winning at least one next year if not more. Mark my words.

 

[GrandSlam24]

Very, very difficult. It is up to Novak to decide whether he wants more titles or not. When he is physically ready, he will stop anyway.
It won't make sense then. 110 is unattainable. 104 is already difficult. I'm hoping for 100 for now.

 

[paolo2143]

No but he could win at least 1 slam had he skipped Paris.

He did what he felt was best fior his career goals and he wanted that Olympic gold above all else this year, he got it!

 

[Frenchy-Player]

 

[vokazu]

If he was not mentally upto it for US Open, should have just skipped it, just wasted everybodys time. Whole of US Open is a waste for me now. I care a damn about who wins it now. Wouldnt mind Tiafoe winning it.

Novak is not like Nadal who skips Slams just because he thinks he won't win it.

He played USO no matter if he thinks he can win it or not.

By playing USO 2024 he becomes the first player ever to win 90 matches at every Grand Slam.

 

[nolefam_2024]

I think even Djokovic may find it a little difficult to win 25 slams from here on out.

A 37 year old must find it difficult. But nole wins 2/3 more

 

[Centrius]

He did what he felt was best fior his career goals and he wanted that Olympic gold above all else this year, he got it!

Cost was too high and from what it seems he will keep doing the same mistakes. I'm done with him as fan.

 

[vokazu]

I think Djokovic will get 25th Slam. Pressure will be off next year, he can just play freely.

 

[pirhaksar]

Cost was too high and from what it seems he will keep doing the same mistakes. I'm done with him as fan.

I am frustrated as well as a fan but he clearly wanted the OG desperately. In one way it’s good he got it, now the dumb part of the RaFa brigade will stfu. You have to remember Novak does his own thing…he is just built different than the average dude…stubborn to a point of annoyance for others but as he has demonstrated few times he knows what he wants and will do everything in his power to stay true to that path and persevere. Let’s see what 2025 has in store. Always remember what happened in AO 22, and then the glorious 2023. That is the spirit of the Djoker! I get he is no longer young and it’s uphill but if anyone can defy the odds in the current field it is him. I still believe he has one more slam in him..#25 in 2025 should be the slogan of this thread .. lol. We can hope for it as fans.

 

[weakera]

Will Djokovic play the Belgrade 250 in November?

 

[Unseeded Player]

The price was too high. But he made his choice, that is for certain.

Too high but he has a record?

 

[GoatNo1]

I am frustrated as well as a fan but he clearly wanted the OG desperately. In one way it’s good he got it, now the dumb part of the RaFa brigade will stfu. You have to remember Novak does his own thing…he is just built different than the average dude…stubborn to a point of annoyance for others but as he has demonstrated few times he knows what he wants and will do everything in his power to stay true to that path and persevere. Let’s see what 2025 has in store. Always remember what happened in AO 22, and then the glorious 2023. That is the spirit of the Djoker! I get he is no longer young and it’s uphill but if anyone can defy the odds in the current field it is him. I still believe he has one more slam in him..#25 in 2025 should be the slogan of this thread .. lol. We can hope for it as fans.

if it happen somebody should do some picture with 2 halves. fed on the left and nole on the right. and under them with large font size 2025.

 

[Djokovic_is_the_best#1]

I think the OG final has shown that Djokovic hasn‘t really declined yet. I bet that 2024 Djokovic would have beaten every other Djokovic in all Olympics matches. He was very close to his peak, everything clicked.

It‘s all about motivation this late in his career. If he wants 25 slams, he‘ll win 25 slams.

Best of 5 is different to best of 3. It a lot more gruelling and difficult to be consistent at his age. He will be approaching 38 next year and he will have much tougher draws as he slides down the rankings.

I believe he’s probably done now. He has nothing to prove but at best maybe he can win some smaller events and have 1 more Cinderella run ala Fed Wimbledon 2019. I’m a realist though and think it unlikely. He has won more than I thought though and completed the set with Olympics. We can’t ask anymore and it would be a major bonus against odds now.

 

[Djokovic_is_the_best#1]

Will Djokovic play the Belgrade 250 in November?

I don’t think he will according to reports. Honestly though I think he should and skip Turin. He has more chance to win Belgrade and doesn’t need to battle the best in atp finals at this point.

 

[Djokovic_is_the_best#1]

I think Djokovic will get 25th Slam. Pressure will be off next year, he can just play freely.

The problem is he will get nasty draws. He could literally get the likes of meddy/Zverev - Alcaraz and sinner in a row or even tougher. If that happens and at his age I don’t see it.

He surprised us before but even for him it probably a step to far if we honest.

 

[Centrius]

Too high but he has a record?

No slams this year, and most likely no WTF neither m-1000.

 

[nolefam_2024]

No slams this year, and most likely no WTF neither m-1000.

It's ok with many nolefams

To us him winning gold was most important thing and then slams. Yes he failed slams but he achieved his priority number 1.

Slams will keep coming he is not retired. But gold would not

 

[Centrius]

I am frustrated as well as a fan but he clearly wanted the OG desperately. In one way it’s good he got it, now the dumb part of the RaFa brigade will stfu. You have to remember Novak does his own thing…he is just built different than the average dude…stubborn to a point of annoyance for others but as he has demonstrated few times he knows what he wants and will do everything in his power to stay true to that path and persevere. Let’s see what 2025 has in store. Always remember what happened in AO 22, and then the glorious 2023. That is the spirit of the Djoker! I get he is no longer young and it’s uphill but if anyone can defy the odds in the current field it is him. I still believe he has one more slam in him..#25 in 2025 should be the slogan of this thread .. lol. We can hope for it as fans.

Get real, he is overplaying for what remains of the year and won't get a good prep for 2025. It's over, he keep making the same mistakes over and over again. Would be better to retire now and avoid a career ending injury.

 

[Bastion]

Next tournament for the Goat?

 

[nolefam_2024]

Next tournament for the Goat?

Shanghai most likely.

 

[GoatNo1]

DC

 

[TheAssassin]

No slams this year, and most likely no WTF neither m-1000.

Is that all it took for you to be done with him as a fan, drop in results lol...

 

[GoatNo1]

No slams this year, and most likely no WTF neither m-1000.

he has already record for slams, WTFs, M-1000 and record for CGS and golden masters (2 to 0 for everybody else)

the only title he does not have was OG and now he is better than rafa (G) and fed (S) even at OG

 

[Bride of Alcaraz]

he has already record for slams, WTFs, M-1000 and record for CGS and golden masters (2 to 0 for everybody else)

the only title he does not have was OG and now he is better than rafa (G) and fed (S) even at OG

Nadal has Olympic Singles Gold and Doubles Gold.
Good luck!
Also, the French Open record (14 titles), the most difficult feat in tennis history.

 

[Unseeded Player]

No slams this year, and most likely no WTF neither m-1000.

So?

 

[Pre9999]

A 37 year old must find it difficult. But nole wins 2/3 more

In your opinion, what are the reasons why he will win 26/27?

 

[Unseeded Player]

Nadal has Olympic Singles Gold and Doubles Gold.
Good luck!
Also, the French Open record (14 titles), the most difficult feat in tennis history.

14 from 22, shows how much limited he was to 1 surface

 

[nolefam_2024]

In your opinion, what are the reasons why he will win 26/27?

That's what the paper said by standford statistician

Djokovic is far from gone. This is ttw hysteria to call someone dead early

 

[Pre9999]

That's what the paper said by standford statistician

Djokovic is far from gone. This is ttw hysteria to call someone dead early

link of the paper?

 

[GoatNo1]

Nadal has Olympic Singles Gold and Doubles Gold.
Good luck!
Also, the French Open record (14 titles), the most difficult feat in tennis history.

you can not count doubles titles and medals for single accomplishments. it is different sports. tennis is individual sport double is not. for the same reason DC was never big part of GOAT debat.

as for single OG: no1e>rafa>fed

 

[Neptune]

Hoping for #25, but given his age and is still so invested in the Davis Cup and United Cup after the intense Bercy and ATP Finals, it wouldn't be surprising if #25 proves elusive.

Time for any glory-hunting fan to jump ship; it will most likely be an ultra-pleasantly smooth ride.

Good news for Fedal fans

As the establishment's darling, just like Fed and Rafa, Alcaraz is on track for 320+ weeks at #1, 6+ YE#1, 22+ slams, and 60+ big titles. Establishment's treatment of Sinner will remain unclear for a while. Soon enough, there will be no need to debate whether Fed or Rafa can be OE #2.

tt.tennis-warehouse.com

Cost was too high and from what it seems he will keep doing the same mistakes. I'm done with him as fan.

No slams this year, and most likely no WTF neither m-1000.

Well, glory-hunting fans will eventually be done with any player—age and time are undefeated.

 

[nolefam_2024]

link of the paper?

How Many More Grand Slams Will Novak Djokovic Win?

By: David Arkow Novak Djokovic just won his 22nd Grand Slam and his 10th Australian Open. Now that he has tied Rafael Nadal for the Slam record, fans are wondering how much more he has to go. I pub…

harvardsportsanalysis.org

 

[GoatNo1]

14 from 22, shows how much limited he was to 1 surface

yes clay is 25% of slams but rafa won 64% of his slams on clay
clay is 33% of masters but he won 72% of his masters on clay
clay is 29% of big tournaments but he won 68% of his big titles on clay
never won miami, paris or WTF

 

[Tensky1]

Never doubt Novak. He will get #25 next year. I know there’s a few of his fans here that like to consistently doubt him, but there’s a reason he is the greatest of all time and a mental giant, and they’re sitting at home.

 

[Shaj]

No doubt he will win another GS but look at his draw.. If he'd played half decently he was in the semis and all he had to do was play 2 serious matches.. one against Zverev and other against Medvedev or Sinner and he could have nicked another one..

 

[Unseeded Player]

yes clay is 25% of slams but rafa won 64% of his slams on clay
clay is 33% of masters but he won 72% of his masters on clay
clay is 29% of big tournaments but he won 68% of his big titles on clay
never won miami, paris or WTF

Basicly there are 3 years where he showed highiest level outside clay 2008, 2010 and 2013. This the period where he won most of big titles outside clay. 2011 was aslo very high but Novak smoked him.

 

[fafa]

This year was a mess with knee injury and Olympics in between Slams. I was expecting a "bad" year after winning 3 Slams. I think it was successful anyway just for the gold medal. I'm expecting a better 2025 but no more than 1 slam, maybe he should skip clay and focus on grass (Halle, Queens and even Stuttgart).

 

[Djokovic_is_the_best#1]

No doubt he will win another GS but look at his draw.. If he'd played half decently he was in the semis and all he had to do was play 2 serious matches.. one against Zverev and other against Medvedev or Sinner and he could have nicked another one..

He will probably get 1 more chance. The issue is though he’s out the top 4 now and will probably have to go through 3 top players if not more.

He is also even older. Honestly as a fan I’m just happy he’s still competing and has most of the records. Even if he can win a few smaller titles that will be awesome enough. I just enjoy watching compete and not all about majors. I was a fan when he was miles behind Fedal.

I don’t expect another major but with Djokovic I guess you can never say never. He has done things against the odds before but he needs a lot to go right now and quite a bit of luck too. That just where we at.

 

[soldat]

Never doubt Novak. He will get #25 next year. I know there’s a few of his fans here that like to consistently doubt him, but there’s a reason he is the greatest of all time and a mental giant, and they’re sitting at home.

I also think he will get his 25th next year. And AO SF, WB F, RG QF, and USO R3 + 2024 OG is a pretty good result already to me. I’m already happy about the outcome, any more tournament wins is just a bonus.

Hopefully he can top 8 and win YEC again, that would be a great way to finish the season

 

[nolefam_2024]

He will probably get 1 more chance. The issue is though he’s out the top 4 now and will probably have to go through 3 top players if not more.

He is also even older. Honestly as a fan I’m just happy he’s still competing and has most of the records. Even if he can win a few smaller titles that will be awesome enough. I just enjoy watching compete and not all about majors. I was a fan when he was miles behind Fedal.

I don’t expect another major but with Djokovic I guess you can never say never. He has done things against the odds before but he needs a lot to go right now and quite a bit of luck too. That just where we at.

Draws are bs

Nole doesn't care about ranking and can go through these guys.

Who are you afraid of zverevs of this world ?

 

[Djokovic_is_the_best#1]

Draws are bs

Nole doesn't care about ranking and can go through these guys.

Who are you afraid of zverevs of this world ?

If he has to beat Zverev/meddy, Alcaraz and sinner I don’t think he can now. This draw will definitely happen now he’s out the top 4 and behind these guys.

As much as you discredit these guys like Zverev they still the best players in the game. Having to beat 3 or 4 in a row at 38 is not likely at this point. Especially the toll it takes on the body as well.

He needs a lot more to go his way at this point and that is expected.

 

[nolefam_2024]

If he has to beat Zverev/meddy, Alcaraz and sinner I don’t think he can now. This draw will definitely happen now he’s out the top 4 and behind these guys.

As much as you discredit these guys like Zverev they still the best players in the game. Having to beat 3 or 4 in a row at 38 is not likely at this point. Especially the toll it takes on the body as well.

He needs a lot more to go his way at this point and that is expected.

Yes but you also didn't think gold was possible. You underrate our guy a lot
Nole at 37 is not like fed at 37 and for sure not like anyone else lesser than fedkovic at 37

 

[Djokovic_is_the_best#1]

Yes but you also didn't think gold was possible. You underrate our guy a lot
Nole at 37 is not like fed at 37 and for sure not like anyone else lesser than fedkovic at 37

True. However, we have to realise he is going getting old now. He is remarkable and a god of the game but even for him Father Time doesn’t make an exception.

You are right I do underrate him and because he’s Djokovic maybe he can surprise us 1 last time.

 

[Sport]

Yes but you also didn't think gold was possible. You underrate our guy a lot
Nole at 37 is not like fed at 37 and for sure not like anyone else lesser than fedkovic at 37

The Djoker is amazing. I'd wait till W 2025 before declaring him dead at Slams. The Djokovic works by motivation, and he lacked motivation this USO. Maybe a revenge in a W final against Raz could fuel his inner desire.

 

[nolefam_2024]

The Djoker is amazing. I'd wait till W 2025 before declaring him dead at Slams. The Djokovic works by motivation, and he lacked motivation this USO. Maybe a revenge in a W final against Raz could fuel his inner desire.

Yes the end is very close but I think at his best he is still as good as sineraz. It will depend a lot on circumstances but he has no urgency now like in 2021. So no pressure as well. People only see bad things like lack of motivation but don't see good things like lack of pressure.

 

[Bastion]

Biggest obstacle for the Goat not the very good younger players coming through, of course they a big factor.

The biggest challenge is to stay motivated, because the body can still go all the way, and the mind is up there as the best, as both could be seen at the Olympics: he decided to focus on that one, say he was going to win it, pitched up against a prime x2 GS winning great player this year, and did the job at a higher level that Carlos could not keep up with him when it really mattered.

Need to focus and do all the planning for A0 2025.... nr. 25.