Djokovic News

SLD76

G.O.A.T.
A few thoughts:

1. Djokovic's announcement was, in its way, a lot classier than Agassi's, who has a history of passive-aggressive behavior like "we agreed to disagree too often." Good riddance I say.

2. Lots of folks gonna eat crow in a few years. How soon people forget Federer's 2013 or Nadal's 2015/16.

3. Djokovic, not Federer, is gonna be the one to tie or break Petros's 6 Player of the Year finishes. He's already got 5 by my lights (2011-12, 2014-15, co-POY in 2016).

4. I applaud his restless mind and intellectual curiosity, even if it means he has chapters of his life that include flim-flam men/charlatans like Pepe Imaz.

5. I am rooting for him to come back in a big way damn soon.[/QUOTERedarding
A few thoughts:

1. Djokovic's announcement was, in its way, a lot classier than Agassi's, who has a history of passive-aggressive behavior like "we agreed to disagree too often." Good riddance I say.

2. Lots of folks gonna eat crow in a few years. How soon people forget Federer's 2013 or Nadal's 2015/16.

3. Djokovic, not Federer, is gonna be the one to tie or break Petros's 6 Player of the Year finishes. He's already got 5 by my lights (2011-12, 2014-15, co-POY in 2016).

4. I applaud his restless mind and intellectual curiosity, even if it means he has chapters of his life that include flim-flam men/charlatans like Pepe Imaz.

5. I am rooting for him to come back in a big way damn soon.





regarding Fed in 13 and Rafa 15-16


They still looked motivated to play and didnt make drastic changes to their teams and injury played a bigger part in their struggles than Djoker . This elbow/shoulder saga is so contorted who knows what the deal is or how severe it is


Meanwhile Becker left citing that Djoker lost intensity to train and practice. Next thing you know the old coach and physio and fitness trainers are gone ...probably because their charge doesn't want to put in the road work like before


Meanwhile Fed has had the same trainer for over a decade, still has Luthi but added Ljubcic and a new racquet


Nadal is forever posting videos of him practicing , added Moya but Toni is still in the mix


The one thing both have is motivation to still train and put in the work


Meanwhile , Djok's fitness has gone to crap and he looks gaunt and emaciated and isnt angry or upset with losing



He is showing far more signs of being mentally burned out and over playing tennis than Fed or Rafa ever did during their rough patches and adjustment periods
 
I would like to point out that the reason he is in Marbella is due to that being where Pepe Imaz lives. Of course, being the last member of his team, thats who he will be coached by. Don't believe me? Look up pictures of Pepe's tennis academy.Thats the wall of his court! Amor y Paz No1e. Forever number one guru student!
 

ANDYbhGENIUS

Professional
He's enjoying himself. He's had his entire life focused solely on tennis and has achieved greatness in the sport. He has a future filled with countless options. I think his fans are the ones who aren't coping well with this change in Djokovic. Djokovic looks content and seems to be enjoying life.

This "like" button is a funny thing, but I would like this post a million times. Novak may be trying to find a way out of well-trotten paths and achievement paradigms (maybe he isn't), and how would I or anyone know what he feels like inside? That process is entirely his, and that of his family and close ones, agassi being the last of those imo.

Those who aren't coping well are not entitled to call themselves friends or fans of Novak, is how I see it. Facebook world of thinking entitles you.
 
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Deleted member 3771

Guest
I think Pepe's amor and paz philosophy doesn't work for Novak on the tennis court. He needs to have the freedom to express himself more on court.

Great to finally see Steps say something! This clears things up a little.

Stepanek: 'Agassi and I had same view, Djokovic had different opinions'

Through a Facebook post shared in the Czech language, the former world no. 8 Radek Stepanek spoke for the first time about splitting with Novak Djokovic, who had announced the news on Wednesday on his website.

It seems that Stepanek and Andre Agassi had the same views, but Djokovic had different ideas. This caused the split. 'Probably, you know that I am not coaching Novak, but even if my first coaching experience lasted for a less time, I had the big chance to work with one of the best players of all-time.

I was on the same team as Andre Agassi, who I had known especially as an opponent,' Stepanek wrote. 'It's a pity that our views with Novak changed so often, so our co-operation ended. But I could closely see how Andre works, looking at his amazing sense of tennis and empathy for every situation, and his amazing kindness.

We were not only colleagues but also true friends who have a lot of similar opinions and have a similar perception about tennis. We improved together. My close relationship with Novak remains, we are friends.

I only wish him to take the best decisions.'
 

Roddick85

Hall of Fame
Djokovic doesn't have anything left to prove to anybody as far as his tennis career goes and he could retire tomorrow with his reputation as one of the ATGs of tennis fully intact. It's just that he himself says he wants to go on playing and still aims to get back to his best.

What he's accomplished is set in stone, no one can touch that, and yes he's an ATG, but unless he finds his mojo and starts winning again, he simply won't be in the same category as Federer/Nadal as these 2 have left him in the dust. I do think however that his behavior of the last 2 years would affect his reputation or what he's remembered for if he was to retire tomorrow in his current state. The mental instability, the guru, burning through coaches and basically firing the entire team that made him, falling off the bandwagon overnight etc...those aren't exactly great ways to be remembered and we both know people will focus on these. Hopefully he can turn it around.
 

Rafa's OCD

Semi-Pro
What he's accomplished is set in stone, no one can touch that, and yes he's an ATG, but unless he finds his mojo and starts winning again, he simply won't be in the same category as Federer/Nadal as these 2 have left him in the dust. I do think however that his behavior of the last 2 years would affect his reputation or what he's remembered for if he was to retire tomorrow in his current state. The mental instability, the guru, burning through coaches and basically firing the entire team that made him, falling off the bandwagon overnight etc...those aren't exactly great ways to be remembered and we both know people will focus on these. Hopefully he can turn it around.

Nadal left everyone in the dust at least 5 years ago in the eyes of Nadal fans. In reality, he hasn't distanced himself from Djokovic nearly as much as some might like to believe. If Novak ever regains his form (which I'm not convinced will happen), he can certainly catch Nadal in the Slam tally. Added to which, Novak's Slam totals can also end up more balanced than Nadal. Nadal fans are going to point to his 105 French Opens as the be-all-end-all for their guy and that's fine, but he's not dominated Novak anywhere else. Neither Nadal nor Novak is catching Federer, though, so I'm pretty comfortable with concluding that Federer has some daylight between himself and everyone else as the best player of this century (so far).
 

yokied

Hall of Fame
It's great news to have Vajda back. Even if they can't rebuild the exact same team, hopefully they can build a good one that can help Novak solve the current set of problems Novak faces, motivation included.
 

NuBas

Legend
Djoko needs to teach his kid a bit. Right now not looking to have picked up his father's genes :p

That was what I was thinking too, I was like man this kid doesn't resemble a prodigy

First time we see Stefan's face?

Yeahh, I think he is getting old enough now they will allow his face to be shown, I don't think they can hide him his entire life OR maybe Monte Carlo people are respectable that way where Novak comfortable showing him.
 

Mainad

Bionic Poster
Djoko needs to teach his kid a bit. Right now not looking to have picked up his father's genes :p

At least he's holding his own racquet! :)

At that age, his daddy had to have someone help hold it for him!! ;)

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merwy

G.O.A.T.
Djoko needs to teach his kid a bit. Right now not looking to have picked up his father's genes :p
Guess it shows that talent to this extent is not just a genetic thing but really something you have to be incredibly lucky to be born with, almost like a gift from god
 

Checkmate

Legend
Guess it shows that talent to this extent is not just a genetic thing but really something you have to be incredibly lucky to be born with, almost like a gift from god

If it was all free will, 90% the pros would have the ''liquid whip'' FH of Federer. YOU HAVE to born with ''it''.
 

RF-18

Talk Tennis Guru
Djokovic pressconference after Coric win. Talking about adjustments he has made to his racket, says it gives him more power and angle on his serve, talks a bit about the big 4 and next gen, some comments on Thiem, also got the question by a reporter if he thinks he will become #1 again.

 

tennis4me

Hall of Fame
Looks like he gained back most, if not all his previous weight. Looked quite a bit healthier than last time. Hopefully he got over his elbow injury.
 

BeatlesFan

Bionic Poster
while Djokovic is planning to play a tournament next week, hoping for a wildcard.

The only two events scheduled for next week at Barcelona or a 250 in Budapest. If he's smart, he plays Budapest. It's a weak field, no Nadal lurking in the draw and maybe he could gain some confidence. If Agassi and Kei could play Challengers during their comeback, Novak can (and should) play 250's.
 

Doctor/Lawyer Red Devil

Talk Tennis Guru
The only two events scheduled for next week at Barcelona or a 250 in Budapest. If he's smart, he plays Budapest. It's a weak field, no Nadal lurking in the draw and maybe he could gain some confidence. If Agassi and Kei could play Challengers during their comeback, Novak can (and should) play 250's.
Yeah. I think he said he will decide tomorrow whether it's Barcelona or Budapest. Both are an option.
 

ND-13

Hall of Fame
I would call the clay season start a success. Winning in 2 sets against a raging Coric and taking the No 2 clay player Thiem to 3 sets , is a fantastic start.

With a few more matches, we can be optimistic about his chances at FO. Should Nadal falter, Novak will find a way to win it just like the GOAT did in 2009.
 

cc0509

Talk Tennis Guru
I would call the clay season start a success. Winning in 2 sets against a raging Coric and taking the No 2 clay player Thiem to 3 sets , is a fantastic start.

With a few more matches, we can be optimistic about his chances at FO. Should Nadal falter, Novak will find a way to win it just like the GOAT did in 2009.

He has practically no chance to win the FO even if Nadal is hit by lightning, IMO. He's playing like a top 50 player and is having trouble with the best players. His groundstrokes aren't penetrating for the most part, his serve is below par, his movement seems reduced and his fitness is about 60% off from where it was in 2015. His big worry isn't Nadal at the moment. He needs to worry about beating players like Thiem, Zverev, Kyrgios, etc. Even if he gets back to close to his 2016 form, those younger players with powerful shots may give him trouble.

Don't spout nonsense. He doesn't look anywhere near being able to win the FO. Remember that was his weakest slam even at his very peak.
 

ND-13

Hall of Fame
He has practically no chance to win the FO even if Nadal is hit by lightning, IMO. He's playing like a top 50 player and is having trouble with the best players. His groundstrokes aren't penetrating for the most part, his serve is below par, his movement seems reduced and his fitness is about 60% off from where it was in 2015. His big worry isn't Nadal at the moment. He needs to worry about beating players like Thiem, Zverev, Kyrgios, etc. Even if he gets back to close to his 2016 form, those younger players with powerful shots may give him trouble.

Don't spout nonsense. He doesn't look anywhere near being able to win the FO. Remember that was his weakest slam even at his very peak.

With all due respects, majors are BO5 and Novak will elevate his game . It will need either Nadal or a Stan kind of player who can outhit Nole for over 3 hours. Very few can do it except the GOAT and clay GOAT.
 

cc0509

Talk Tennis Guru
Djokovic: "Tomorrow I'll decide where, but I'm playing next week"

Great for him. This is what he needs to get back on top, he needs to play matches. I like the attitude.

How is playing some broken-down field in Budapest going to help him beat the better players in Madrid or Rome?
 

cc0509

Talk Tennis Guru
With all due respects, majors are BO5 and Novak will elevate his game . It will need either Nadal or a Stan kind of player who can outhit Nole for over 3 hours. Very few can do it except the GOAT and clay GOAT.

I'm sorry but I disagree 100% with that. His results for the past two years have told us otherwise. We saw how Novak "elevated" his game at the FO 2017 by losing in straights to Thiem. Did you actually watch him play today? Because I did for the first time since IW and to me, he looks like an average top 50 player at the moment. His groundstrokes are often weak and short, his serve is MIA, his fitness is way down, etc.

IMO, unless he improves quite a bit by the FO, many other players will be able to take him down there.
 

RF-18

Talk Tennis Guru
How is playing some broken-down field in Budapest going to help him beat the better players in Madrid or Rome?

He needs match play, he needs to build up his physique and by that you need to play matches. I mean did you even watch today's match? Thiem is the 2nd best clay courter in the world and Djokovic pushed him to three sets in the shaky form he is in. In the end it was Novaks legs that hurt the outcome of the match. He was simply not able to find energy late in the third, and Thiem pounced on the opportunity.

So, what is the issue with playing Barcelona or Budapest when he needs it? Are you that clueless?
 

aman92

Legend
With all due respects, majors are BO5 and Novak will elevate his game . It will need either Nadal or a Stan kind of player who can outhit Nole for over 3 hours. Very few can do it except the GOAT and clay GOAT.

Didn't Think obileterate him last year at the French Open? And going by Today's performance Djokovic doesn't have the groundstrokes to challenge any top 5 player currently. Needs to improve massively over the clay court season
 

cc0509

Talk Tennis Guru
He needs match play, he needs to build up his physique and by that you need to play matches. I mean did you even watch today's match? Thiem is the 2nd best clay courter in the world and Djokovic pushed him to three sets in the shaky form he is in. In the end it was Novaks legs that hurt the outcome of the match. He was simply not able to find energy late in the third, and Thiem pounced on the opportunity.

So, what is the issue with playing Barcelona or Budapest when he needs it? Are you that clueless?

Right, it was Novak's legs which hurt the outcome of the match? Did YOU watch the match? Novak's groundstrokes were often not penetrating the court, his serve was off, his fitness has fallen off a cliff, etc.
How many winners did Novak have compared to Thiem?

All I'm asking you is, how will playing in Budapest vs a broken-down field help Novak beat better players in the bigger events? Didn't he try playing a few clown events in 2017 by playing Acapulco and Nottingham to try and do better at the bigger events with loaded fields? It didn't work out too well.

You just have to accept that he likely won't be very competitive for this clay season.
 

RF-18

Talk Tennis Guru
Right, it was Novak's legs which hurt the outcome of the match? Did YOU watch the match? Novak's groundstrokes were often not penetrating the court, his serve was off, his fitness has fallen off a cliff, etc.
How many winners did Novak have compared to Thiem?

All I'm asking you is, how will playing in Budapest vs a broken-down field help Novak beat better players in the bigger events? Didn't he try playing a few clown events in 2017 by playing Acapulco and Nottingham to try and do better at the bigger events with loaded fields? It didn't work out too well.

You just have to accept that he likely won't be very competitive for this clay season.

He is serving better, and he is hitting the ball much better compared to Miami and IW. As I said, he pushed the match to 3 sets, against the very first top quality opponent since AO. Thiem is one of the best players in the world, especially on clay. Not to shabby to play the way he did today considering the state he is in. Beating Coric in straights who reached QF and SF at IW and Miami where he nearly beat Federer, is not bad either.

It was obvious to everyone Djokovic was running out of energy towards the end of the third set when he got broken. That has an effect on how you play.

And, by adding tournaments to his schedule, he is clearly indicating that match play is important to him, not actually for the reason to beat 'broken down' field. But to get more matches into his legs and build up his stamina. He even said it himself that he is not as fit as he wants to be after the Coric win, he has played too little. That in result, will help him play better in the bigger events and against better players where the physical aspect and length of matches increases, cause being in shape is something that is obvious to anyone if you want your game to work at a desired level throughout matches. For you, that is not understandable obviously.

It is not even official that he is playing Budapest. Barcelona is on the cards aswell. So don't say he is playing budapest when it's not even decided yet.
 
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Federerkblade

Hall of Fame
Agree he needs to put on weight

He needs to improve stamina by playing and also the mental pressure which fatigues you

His minor changes to the racquet also will contribute to him not penetratating the court

Playing with a racquet with such a high swingweight over the years previously has had an effect on his arm elbow

What will be interesting is what is the swingweight now ....

I cannot remember exactly and forum members with a better memory than mine will advise whether his swingweight was 370 before the tweaks to his frame .

I personally think Novak will win a slam when the opportunity arises but he won't be beating top players in a slam the hard way...

If the draw opens up he may well take advantage of one or two if he gets things go his way

Cannot see him beating players in a tough draw and winning ...
 

Federerkblade

Hall of Fame
Just noticed he didn't ..

Surprised at novak

It was Bernades as the umpire ... May have spelt his name incorrectly ....

Is their history .. he was pressuring Novak to hurry up in between points
 
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