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Well if he refuses to get vaxxed and pulls out of AO and ATP Cup, he deserves to get passed.

So far he is 2900 ahead of Med and 3700 ahead of Zed. He won't lose no1 if he plays AO, even if he doesn't win.
Novak should do what it is best for him. If that’s not getting vaccinated and missing AO then I support him. I got vaccinated and obviously for the world it’s best as many get vaccinated as possible. Still no one should be forced against their will if they uncomfortable with it or had bad reactions to vaccines in past.
 

One

Rookie
A true rookie response! Sorry but Novak is not done regardless ;)
Why? He won IW and Miami more than enought times, he wont go there for points, and clay season starts 2 weeks after that. Maybe if his kids want to see the desert and Miami beach, but they are still too young.
 

Visionary

Hall of Fame
Why? He won IW and Miami more than enought times, he wont go there for points, and clay season starts 2 weeks after that. Maybe if his kids want to see the desert and Miami beach, but they are still too young.
I don't get it. Why did you quote me?
 

BadPusher

New User
I agree with those above who say that Djokovic won't play the Australian Open, and I say good for him. If you don't want the vax, then you shouldn't get it. Once they have 5 to 10 years of data on possible long-term effects, I might get the vax myself, but not before then, and they can take my job if they want to. I don't want it that bad. I'm not even a Djokovic fan. I'm a Nadal guy through and through on the tennis front. But if Djoker tells Australia to jump in a lake, I might have to begrudgingly become a fan after all.
 

Bubcay

Legend
I agree with those above who say that Djokovic won't play the Australian Open, and I say good for him. If you don't want the vax, then you shouldn't get it. Once they have 5 to 10 years of data on possible long-term effects, I might get the vax myself, but not before then, and they can take my job if they want to. I don't want it that bad. I'm not even a Djokovic fan. I'm a Nadal guy through and through on the tennis front. But if Djoker tells Australia to jump in a lake, I might have to begrudgingly become a fan after all.
The problem might be that more and more tournaments could introduce this requirement, meaning that he might not be able to play a lot, thus undercutting his quest for records.
 

DjokoLand

Hall of Fame
I agree with those above who say that Djokovic won't play the Australian Open, and I say good for him. If you don't want the vax, then you shouldn't get it. Once they have 5 to 10 years of data on possible long-term effects, I might get the vax myself, but not before then, and they can take my job if they want to. I don't want it that bad. I'm not even a Djokovic fan. I'm a Nadal guy through and through on the tennis front. But if Djoker tells Australia to jump in a lake, I might have to begrudgingly become a fan after all.
The problem is that yes Djokovic should have to get it if he doesn’t want it but considering he doesn’t live in Australia they have the right to demand vaccination to travel there.
 
The problem might be that more and more tournaments could introduce this requirement, meaning that he might not be able to play a lot, thus undercutting his quest for records.
I think it's quite clear and obvious what is happening here and what he needs to decide, either he gets vaccinated or he retires, there isn't any viable third option for him in the future tbh.
 

BadPusher

New User
I'm only guessing of course, after all I don't sleep in his bed at night, but I think he will tell Australia thanks but no thanks. Then, he will wait to see what Roland Garros and Wimbledon do. It's very possible that they won't mandate the vaccine, as Australia has been much more draconian than France or the UK during this ordeal. If they were to mandate the vaccine also, maybe he would start to waver, but I hope not. I think he is quite sincere in valuing his liberty and freedom of thought, and hopefully he would see that those are more important than records. Anybody who thinks he lacks mental strength should re-watch his matches. Time will tell what he decides to do.
 

Tenacity

Hall of Fame
He has until 6th of December to confirm his participation for AO (i.e 6 weeks before the event) meaning we will know by then if he is going there, which means he has been vaccinated the whole time, just didn't want to disclose it, which is his right to do so.
 

Bubcay

Legend
Guys he's in Austraia where you can't go anywhere public without being vaccinated.... come on use your brains
There will be no public at the DC matches in Austria, and vaccination is not a condition of entry into the country. So he could be there without necessarily being vaccinated...

"Travelers who have exclusively been to a “country or territory with low epidemiological risk” (listed in Annex 1 of the COVID-19 Entry Regulation) in the past 10 days may enter Austria without quarantine or pre-travel-registration if they provide upon entry a certificate of vaccination, a certificate of recovery or a negative COVID-19 test result. "
 

Hayole

Rookie
There will be no public at the DC matches in Austria, and vaccination is not a condition of entry into the country. So he could be there without necessarily being vaccinated...

"Travelers who have exclusively been to a “country or territory with low epidemiological risk” (listed in Annex 1 of the COVID-19 Entry Regulation) in the past 10 days may enter Austria without quarantine or pre-travel-registration if they provide upon entry a certificate of vaccination, a certificate of recovery or a negative COVID-19 test result. "

I read that but i just don't see him not being vaccinated

But we'll all know for sure in 2 weeks anyways
 

mehdimike

Hall of Fame
He has until 6th of December to confirm his participation for AO (i.e 6 weeks before the event) meaning we will know by then if he is going there, which means he has been vaccinated the whole time, just didn't want to disclose it, which is his right to do so.
How come? Is it a rule or something else in this case?
 

nolefam_2024

G.O.A.T.
I hope he does not get vaccinated and does not play. He is healthy and not a risk to anyone. In fact, the vaccinated are a much higher "spread risk" because (1) they can still get and spread Covid; (2) their symptoms are reduced so they may not realize they have it, and (3) if they get it, they carry Covid virus at a much higher "viral load" level than the unvaccinated.
I have already had my booster shot and can't support the asinine cause of novaxing. Let's see. History won't remember his stance like Muhammad Ali. But let everyone make their own choice. Make your choice and be ready for consequences.
 

NAS

Hall of Fame
I have already had my booster shot and can't support the asinine cause of novaxing. Let's see. History won't remember his stance like Muhammad Ali. But let everyone make their own choice. Make your choice and be ready for consequences.
You already have your booster? this really sucks, so after having my 2 dose vaccine now I have to take booster for every 4 month with no reliable data. Why they are not waiting for complete finsh data before starting booster
 

nolefam_2024

G.O.A.T.
You already have your booster? this really sucks, so after having my 2 dose vaccine now I have to take booster for every 4 month with no reliable data. Why they are not waiting for complete finsh data before starting booster
I am no scientist. Still it feels much better having vaccinated.
 

nolefam_2024

G.O.A.T.
But the point is how many times, they have not perfected any covid vaccine till date( that is why companies are asking indemnity)
Really don't want any booster, I already tested positive later got my vaccine
Good for you. Everyone can make their own choice but now it's time to draw a line.
 

Tennisfan339

Professional
What if Novak can't be vaccinated because of certain medical reasons? That is a condition by which you have exemption in many cases and then you can do test

Doesn't Djokovic suffer from asthma or some similar Respiratory disease? I recall he had to pull out of a lot of matches when he was young because of those breathing issues. AO 2009 against Roddick or Wimbledon 2007 against Nadal for instance.
I know for a fact some categories of asthmatic people can't be forced to be vaccinated. It will just cause more health issues than if you don't get vaccinated at all. Your doctor signs a medical certificate to notify the pathology, says you can't get the vaccine and you're exempted. Then you have to be tested every 48h. At least in my state I heard examples like this. I'm sure Djokovic could easily play this card if he wants to... he wouldn't even be lying or cheating.

Either way I support Djokovic's (and all the players for that matter) decision, whether he takes it or not. No matter what decision he makes it'll be the right one. I just think it'll be a shame if this is THE big reason why he's stuck at 20 Slams forever.... or worse, if he is forced to retire next year. I don't want the slam race to depend on this grim factor. I hope it won't go to such extremes.
 

alinefx

Rookie
Will he play tomorrow vs Austria.I think considering the opposition it will be wise to let his other teammates play and consentrate for next matches.Serbia have far better squad even without him.On the other hand if he plays it will be Novak vs Novak
 

Centrius

Professional
Will he play tomorrow vs Austria.I think considering the opposition it will be wise to let his other teammates play and consentrate for next matches.Serbia have far better squad even without him.On the other hand if he plays it will be Novak vs Novak

Would that be a first time meeting?o_O
 
According to flashscore Djokovic will play vs Austria which in my opinion is stupid move considering the oposition but when we talk about nation representation it won t be the first from him.I sometimes think his incredible patriotism hurt him in some instances
 

NoleFam

Bionic Poster

Djokovic played Novak? Totally didn't know they were playing today. I wonder how weird this was for him. "Game Novak" and "advantage Novak" when they were talking about the other guy..lol

Edit: It's DC so they name the country when they call the score.
 
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TripleATeam

G.O.A.T.
The teams still able to be 4-2 runner ups are the following (Bolded meaning favored to win group):
A: Spain, Russia
B: Sweden, Kazakhstan
C: Czechia, GB
D: Croatia, Hungary
E: USA, Colombia
F: Serbia, Germany.

It's reasonable to think only 4-2 match W/L records will advance a team to the QFs of the Davis Cup, but not impossible for 3-3 to succeed as well. However, we'll see many 3-3 records and fewer 4-2s, so let's consider that the breaking point for the 2 runner up teams.

Group A: Russia or Spain can definitely get a 4-2 record. The loser of their H2H will likely be the runner up of the group and would need a 3-0 record over Ecuador (which Spain already has). It isn't impossible, but they do have a strong doubles team. Could be tough.
Group B: I could see Kazakhstan winning 2-1 over both Canada and Sweden, resulting in a 4-2 RU for Sweden. I do not see Sweden beating Kazakhstan and then Kazakhstan beating Canada 3-0, however.
Group C: A 4-2 would be contingent on GB beating Czechia 3-0 or Czechia beating GB 3-0, as France cannot be a 4-2 RU (need 2 wins, but that guarantees a win). The first scenario is the far more likely, but even that isn't 100% and is dependent on GB losing to France in the first place.
Group D: I don't see Croatia losing to Hungary, nor do I see Australia losing 3-0 to Hungary. I wholeheartedly think Australia will be the runner up with 3-3 or 2-4.
Group E: Is the USA beating Colombia 3-0? Unlikely, considering they have among the best doubles players with them. Also Galan could manage a singles win. So it's possible, I don't think it's likely.
Group F: Relies on Germany beating Austria 3-0 and losing 1-2 to Serbia. Doubles could be iffy against Austria, but singles should be more straightforward. I could definitely see a 3-0 win and a 1-2 loss. And in the unlikely event that they win 2-1 against Serbia, then Serbia will end up with the RU.

Predictions for runner ups:
Likely (most to least): Group A/F, Group B.
Unlikely (most to least): Group D, Group E, Group C.

Ties to watch:
  • All of Group C, as it really matters quite a bit, and the winner isn't even close to being determined.
  • Sweden/Kazakhstan - anything less than a 3-0 win by Kazakhstan would be good for Sweden and practically lock their place in the next round.
  • Spain/Russia - the strongest group tie here. Should be the best tennis we see until the quarterfinals.
  • Serbia/Germany - the match between Lajovic/Krajinovic and Koepfer should be good, and probably the decider for who the runner up will be.
That being said, since the most likely to have runner ups are A/F, we are close to knowing our bracket. My prediction:
Spain vs Germany
France vs Serbia
Italy vs Croatia
Russia vs Sweden

Honestly though, I could see wanting to be a runner up instead of a winner for Group F - they'll either go up against Spain or Sweden, but it's not a sure thing either way.

Anyway I'll keep this updated over the next couple days.
 

Bubcay

Legend
The teams still able to be 4-2 runner ups are the following (Bolded meaning favored to win group):
A: Spain, Russia
B: Sweden, Kazakhstan
C: Czechia, GB
D: Croatia, Hungary
E: USA, Colombia
F: Serbia, Germany.

It's reasonable to think only 4-2 match W/L records will advance a team to the QFs of the Davis Cup, but not impossible for 3-3 to succeed as well. However, we'll see many 3-3 records and fewer 4-2s, so let's consider that the breaking point for the 2 runner up teams.

Group A: Russia or Spain can definitely get a 4-2 record. The loser of their H2H will likely be the runner up of the group and would need a 3-0 record over Ecuador (which Spain already has). It isn't impossible, but they do have a strong doubles team. Could be tough.
Group B: I could see Kazakhstan winning 2-1 over both Canada and Sweden, resulting in a 4-2 RU for Sweden. I do not see Sweden beating Kazakhstan and then Kazakhstan beating Canada 3-0, however.
Group C: A 4-2 would be contingent on GB beating Czechia 3-0 or Czechia beating GB 3-0, as France cannot be a 4-2 RU (need 2 wins, but that guarantees a win). The first scenario is the far more likely, but even that isn't 100% and is dependent on GB losing to France in the first place.
Group D: I don't see Croatia losing to Hungary, nor do I see Australia losing 3-0 to Hungary. I wholeheartedly think Australia will be the runner up with 3-3 or 2-4.
Group E: Is the USA beating Colombia 3-0? Unlikely, considering they have among the best doubles players with them. Also Galan could manage a singles win. So it's possible, I don't think it's likely.
Group F: Relies on Germany beating Austria 3-0 and losing 1-2 to Serbia. Doubles could be iffy against Austria, but singles should be more straightforward. I could definitely see a 3-0 win and a 1-2 loss. And in the unlikely event that they win 2-1 against Serbia, then Serbia will end up with the RU.

Predictions for runner ups:
Likely (most to least): Group A/F, Group B.
Unlikely (most to least): Group D, Group E, Group C.

Ties to watch:
  • All of Group C, as it really matters quite a bit, and the winner isn't even close to being determined.
  • Sweden/Kazakhstan - anything less than a 3-0 win by Kazakhstan would be good for Sweden and practically lock their place in the next round.
  • Spain/Russia - the strongest group tie here. Should be the best tennis we see until the quarterfinals.
  • Serbia/Germany - the match between Lajovic/Krajinovic and Koepfer should be good, and probably the decider for who the runner up will be.
That being said, since the most likely to have runner ups are A/F, we are close to knowing our bracket. My prediction:
Spain vs Germany
France vs Serbia
Italy vs Croatia
Russia vs Sweden

Honestly though, I could see wanting to be a runner up instead of a winner for Group F - they'll either go up against Spain or Sweden, but it's not a sure thing either way.

Anyway I'll keep this updated over the next couple days.
Thanks for the analysis. This is great. I think you are spot on.
 

FedeRadi

Rookie
The teams still able to be 4-2 runner ups are the following (Bolded meaning favored to win group):
A: Spain, Russia
B: Sweden, Kazakhstan
C: Czechia, GB
D: Croatia, Hungary
E: USA, Colombia
F: Serbia, Germany.

It's reasonable to think only 4-2 match W/L records will advance a team to the QFs of the Davis Cup, but not impossible for 3-3 to succeed as well. However, we'll see many 3-3 records and fewer 4-2s, so let's consider that the breaking point for the 2 runner up teams.

Group A: Russia or Spain can definitely get a 4-2 record. The loser of their H2H will likely be the runner up of the group and would need a 3-0 record over Ecuador (which Spain already has). It isn't impossible, but they do have a strong doubles team. Could be tough.
Group B: I could see Kazakhstan winning 2-1 over both Canada and Sweden, resulting in a 4-2 RU for Sweden. I do not see Sweden beating Kazakhstan and then Kazakhstan beating Canada 3-0, however.
Group C: A 4-2 would be contingent on GB beating Czechia 3-0 or Czechia beating GB 3-0, as France cannot be a 4-2 RU (need 2 wins, but that guarantees a win). The first scenario is the far more likely, but even that isn't 100% and is dependent on GB losing to France in the first place.
Group D: I don't see Croatia losing to Hungary, nor do I see Australia losing 3-0 to Hungary. I wholeheartedly think Australia will be the runner up with 3-3 or 2-4.
Group E: Is the USA beating Colombia 3-0? Unlikely, considering they have among the best doubles players with them. Also Galan could manage a singles win. So it's possible, I don't think it's likely.
Group F: Relies on Germany beating Austria 3-0 and losing 1-2 to Serbia. Doubles could be iffy against Austria, but singles should be more straightforward. I could definitely see a 3-0 win and a 1-2 loss. And in the unlikely event that they win 2-1 against Serbia, then Serbia will end up with the RU.

Predictions for runner ups:
Likely (most to least): Group A/F, Group B.
Unlikely (most to least): Group D, Group E, Group C.

Ties to watch:
  • All of Group C, as it really matters quite a bit, and the winner isn't even close to being determined.
  • Sweden/Kazakhstan - anything less than a 3-0 win by Kazakhstan would be good for Sweden and practically lock their place in the next round.
  • Spain/Russia - the strongest group tie here. Should be the best tennis we see until the quarterfinals.
  • Serbia/Germany - the match between Lajovic/Krajinovic and Koepfer should be good, and probably the decider for who the runner up will be.
That being said, since the most likely to have runner ups are A/F, we are close to knowing our bracket. My prediction:
Spain vs Germany
France vs Serbia
Italy vs Croatia
Russia vs Sweden

Honestly though, I could see wanting to be a runner up instead of a winner for Group F - they'll either go up against Spain or Sweden, but it's not a sure thing either way.

Anyway I'll keep this updated over the next couple days.

Great analysis but I think Russia is an heavy favorite to win Group A and likely the whole thing.
Spain is without Nadal, RBA and Alcaraz. The double match is hard to predict, but Medvedev and Rublev are heavy favorites against PCB and Lopez(Or Vinolas/Martinez).

So I think this is more likely:
Russia vs Germany
France vs Serbia
Italy vs Croatia
Spain vs Sweden

As Italian I would sign for that honestly. Russia and Serbia on the other side of the draw, we have a serious shot to make the final(Croatia and Spain are good but not clearly better than Italy IMO).
As Nole Fan, idk if be runner-up is better than win the group. I don't know how the two best second are matched against winners of groups A and B, but I imagine Spain can't play Russia again at QF, so it's QF against Russia for Nole if Serbia is runner-up.

My feeling: I cheered for Nole in Wimbledon final against Berrettini, I really wanted him to reach #20, I feel there is time for an Italian Slam in next few years with Berrettini or Sinner. But this time, if Italy and Serbia will have a match(Maybe the final), I hope Nole can let my countrymen take the win :D !
 

maratha_warrior

Hall of Fame
Is Djokovic playing Australian Open ?

Is he taking time to decide whether he will take vaccination or not ?
I think if he is not playing Australian Open ,just let his fans know about it .

He is playing these random Davis Cup matches and his fans doesn't even know if he plays next grandslam which starts in few weeks .
 

TripleATeam

G.O.A.T.
The teams still able to be 4-2 runner ups are the following (Bolded meaning favored to win group):
A: Spain, Russia
B: Sweden, Kazakhstan
C: Czechia, GB
D: Croatia, Hungary
E: USA, Colombia
F: Serbia, Germany.

It's reasonable to think only 4-2 match W/L records will advance a team to the QFs of the Davis Cup, but not impossible for 3-3 to succeed as well. However, we'll see many 3-3 records and fewer 4-2s, so let's consider that the breaking point for the 2 runner up teams.

Group A: Russia or Spain can definitely get a 4-2 record. The loser of their H2H will likely be the runner up of the group and would need a 3-0 record over Ecuador (which Spain already has). It isn't impossible, but they do have a strong doubles team. Could be tough.
Group B: I could see Kazakhstan winning 2-1 over both Canada and Sweden, resulting in a 4-2 RU for Sweden. I do not see Sweden beating Kazakhstan and then Kazakhstan beating Canada 3-0, however.
Group C: A 4-2 would be contingent on GB beating Czechia 3-0 or Czechia beating GB 3-0, as France cannot be a 4-2 RU (need 2 wins, but that guarantees a win). The first scenario is the far more likely, but even that isn't 100% and is dependent on GB losing to France in the first place.
Group D: I don't see Croatia losing to Hungary, nor do I see Australia losing 3-0 to Hungary. I wholeheartedly think Australia will be the runner up with 3-3 or 2-4.
Group E: Is the USA beating Colombia 3-0? Unlikely, considering they have among the best doubles players with them. Also Galan could manage a singles win. So it's possible, I don't think it's likely.
Group F: Relies on Germany beating Austria 3-0 and losing 1-2 to Serbia. Doubles could be iffy against Austria, but singles should be more straightforward. I could definitely see a 3-0 win and a 1-2 loss. And in the unlikely event that they win 2-1 against Serbia, then Serbia will end up with the RU.

Predictions for runner ups:
Likely (most to least): Group A/F, Group B.
Unlikely (most to least): Group D, Group E, Group C.

Ties to watch:
  • All of Group C, as it really matters quite a bit, and the winner isn't even close to being determined.
  • Sweden/Kazakhstan - anything less than a 3-0 win by Kazakhstan would be good for Sweden and practically lock their place in the next round.
  • Spain/Russia - the strongest group tie here. Should be the best tennis we see until the quarterfinals.
  • Serbia/Germany - the match between Lajovic/Krajinovic and Koepfer should be good, and probably the decider for who the runner up will be.
That being said, since the most likely to have runner ups are A/F, we are close to knowing our bracket. My prediction:
Spain vs Germany
France vs Serbia
Italy vs Croatia
Russia vs Sweden

Honestly though, I could see wanting to be a runner up instead of a winner for Group F - they'll either go up against Spain or Sweden, but it's not a sure thing either way.

Anyway I'll keep this updated over the next couple days.
The teams still able to be 4-2 runner ups are the following (Bolded meaning favored to win group):
A: Spain, Russia
B: Sweden - requires Kazakhstan to beat Canada. Otherwise, Sweden will win group and Kazakhstan/Canada will be RU at 3-3.
C: None, the runner up has at best a 3-3 record.
D: None. Same as C.
E: USA, Colombia
F: Serbia

Group A: Russia just came in and demolished Ecuador. The doubles was my only "maybe" in this, but since they made it out 3-0, Spain and Russia have nearly guaranteed both being in the quarterfinals. All it will take is a 2-1 meeting when they face off, as that guarantees 4-2 for the loser. However, if one beats the other 3-0 (more likely Russia beating Spain), we will see a 3-3 finish, and that will mean that perhaps the loser doesn't move on.
Group B: Comes down to Kazakhstan beating Canada. If not, Sweden moves on and Kazakhstan or Canada has a 3-3 record.
Group C: Only the winner is moving on (likely), and that seems like Great Britain, assuming they beat Czechia. If Czechia beats GB we'll be in tiebreakers.
Group D: Unless Croatia collapses 0-3 against Hungary, Croatia is winning group. The runner up cannot do better than 3-3.
Group E: Is the USA beating Colombia 3-0? Unlikely, considering they have among the best doubles players with them. Also Galan could manage a singles win. So it's possible, I don't think it's likely.
Group F: Practically guaranteed. Unless Austria manages to beat Germany.

Predictions for runner ups:
Likely (most to least): Group F, Group A
Unlikely (most to least): Group E, Group B

Ties to watch:
  • Britain/Czechia. A 2-1 win for Czechia makes the entire group have a 3-3 record, which would be cool to see. Other than that, it shouldn't be particularly close, I see Britain moving on.
  • Spain/Russia - the strongest group tie here. Should be the best tennis we see until the quarterfinals.
My adjusted prediction in light of Russia 3-0ing Ecuador and Germany beating Serbia:
Russia vs Serbia
Britain vs Germany
Italy vs Croatia
Spain vs Sweden

It's clear the strongest competition in the DC is 1. Russia (Near-unstoppable 1st singles, really good 2nd singles, and not bad doubles) and Spain (2 really good singles, quite good doubles), 3. Britain (top-tier doubles with 2 top-30 singles), 4. Serbia (1 near-unstoppable 1st singles, not bad 2nd singles, and decent doubles). 5. Croatia (decent singles, top-tier doubles). 6. Italy (4 great singles players, but doubles are weaker) and Germany (quite decent doubles, fairly good singles). 8. Sweden (honestly this is almost a bye).

Side note: Perhaps Spain/Russia should throw the 3rd match if they split the tie 1-1. After that point, both are guaranteed to move on, but the better QF matchup would be going up against Sweden, which only a runner-up can do. It's also fairly unlikely that Russia or Spain would be forced to play each other again in the quarterfinal given the way the bracket was made. Thus a strategic loss there could set up an easy path to the finals, at worst facing the #8 team, then the #5 team before the finals, whereas if they win their group they could end up facing the #4 team then the #3 team.

Right now, Serbia should really be hoping for Russia to lose to Spain. Against Russia 1st singles is 50/50, 2nd singles is against them, and doubles is maybe a bit for them - making it a tie that slightly favors Russia. Against Spain, I would say Serbia is favored in both singles and not too far behind in doubles.
 
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