Djokovic ranking achievements

With Nadal's withdrawal from Cincinnati, here are the minimum and maximum points totals for the big three on Monday September 9, the day after the US Open:

Minimum:

Djokovic: 9325
Nadal: 7225
Federer: 6680

Maximum:

Djokovic: 12325
Nadal: 9225
Federer: 9680

This means that Djokovic is confirmed as #1 the day after the US Open if he makes the semis in Cincinnati (or the quarters at the US Open), and so gets the 360 points he needs to be guaranteed being ahead of Federer's point maximum. If Djokovic is #1 the day after the US Open, he ties Connors for #4 in weeks at #1 on 268 weeks. With the way the tour schedule works, he'd be de facto guaranteed the next three weeks at #1, too, thus moving past both Connors and Lendl and into third place for weeks as #1 on 271+.

Nadal already cannot reclaim the #1 spot until the fall season. However, Nadal is #1 in the race again.
 

daddy

Legend
With Nadal's withdrawal from Cincinnati, here are the minimum and maximum points totals for the big three on Monday September 9, the day after the US Open:

Minimum:

Djokovic: 9325
Nadal: 7225
Federer: 6680

Maximum:

Djokovic: 12325
Nadal: 9225
Federer: 9680

This means that Djokovic is confirmed as #1 the day after the US Open if he makes the semis in Cincinnati (or the quarters at the US Open), and so gets the 360 points he needs to be guaranteed being ahead of Federer's point maximum. If Djokovic is #1 the day after the US Open, he ties Connors for #4 in weeks at #1 on 268 weeks. With the way the tour schedule works, he'd be de facto guaranteed the next three weeks at #1, too, thus moving past both Connors and Lendl and into third place for weeks as #1 on 271+.

Nadal already cannot reclaim the #1 spot until the fall season. However, Nadal is #1 in the race again.
Much less confirms that it would take a miracle to dethrone Novak before 2020.
 
Much less confirms that it would take a miracle to dethrone Novak before 2020.
A miracle? Even though Nadal has a lead of 500 points in the race? That means that if Federer beats Djokovic in Cincinnati, Nadal leads the race heading into the US Open. Nadal has a shot at winning the US Open, which would extend the lead. There's thus at least a decent chance that Nadal will have a lead of 940 points (or more) after the US Open. Sure, Djokovic has traditionally done better than Nadal after the US Open. But Djokovic used to dominate Indian Wells and Miami, too, and he flopped at both this year. Djokovic is favorite for year-end #1, but it doesn't need a miracle for Nadal to pip him to the post.
 

Tenacity

Semi-Pro
A miracle? Even though Nadal has a lead of 500 points in the race? That means that if Federer beats Djokovic in Cincinnati, Nadal leads the race heading into the US Open. Nadal has a shot at winning the US Open, which would extend the lead. There's thus at least a decent chance that Nadal will have a lead of 940 points (or more) after the US Open. Sure, Djokovic has traditionally done better than Nadal after the US Open. But Djokovic used to dominate Indian Wells and Miami, too, and he flopped at both this year. Djokovic is favorite for year-end #1, but it doesn't need a miracle for Nadal to pip him to the post.
Problem is Nadal won't be playing that much in the fall or so I heard because of attending some wedding. :D
 

daddy

Legend
A miracle? Even though Nadal has a lead of 500 points in the race? That means that if Federer beats Djokovic in Cincinnati, Nadal leads the race heading into the US Open. Nadal has a shot at winning the US Open, which would extend the lead. There's thus at least a decent chance that Nadal will have a lead of 940 points (or more) after the US Open. Sure, Djokovic has traditionally done better than Nadal after the US Open. But Djokovic used to dominate Indian Wells and Miami, too, and he flopped at both this year. Djokovic is favorite for year-end #1, but it doesn't need a miracle for Nadal to pip him to the post.
Well yes, a miracle. History teaches us that Novak is a heavy favorite over Rafa in this stage of the season and in the sole unlikely situation of Rafa winning the USO tables would turn. Otherwise, no.
 
A miracle? Even though Nadal has a lead of 500 points in the race? That means that if Federer beats Djokovic in Cincinnati, Nadal leads the race heading into the US Open. Nadal has a shot at winning the US Open, which would extend the lead. There's thus at least a decent chance that Nadal will have a lead of 940 points (or more) after the US Open. Sure, Djokovic has traditionally done better than Nadal after the US Open. But Djokovic used to dominate Indian Wells and Miami, too, and he flopped at both this year. Djokovic is favorite for year-end #1, but it doesn't need a miracle for Nadal to pip him to the post.
But isn't Nadal going to skip a huge chunk of the indoor season for his marriage?
So even if he is 1500 points ahead(Bulls win Open, Djoel loses Cincy SF, Open SF) in the race by the end of USO, Djo will have Beijing, Shanghai,Vienna, Paris and WTF to take the YE#1. Not saying he will play all of them but he is too good not to perform in that part of the season especially when his rankings will be in danger.

Djokovic turns up when big titles and rankings are concerned.
 
In 2016 we have winessed miracle from Murray, so Nadal becoming No1 at the end of 2019 is not so impossible.
Murray wasn't supposed to marry in 2016.
Murray had better knees than Nadal and better indoor game.
To top that Murray was having the second peak of his career.

The only miracle that can happen is Nole falling so much so that he stops making finals and semis.

On second thought another miracle could be Fed going on a rampage where he beats Djokovic several times in the indoor season so that Nadal can finish YE#1 but if history is anything to go by that is even more unlikely than Novak falling out of form:-D

The funny thing is that realistically only Nadal can save Fed's ranking record from Novak.
And in doing that he will have to win slams so Fed's slam record will be in jeopardy.
 

uscwang

Hall of Fame
Novak is already the best player of the year with AO and WB titles. But he still has a lot of work to do to secure #1 ranking.
 

daddy

Legend
In 2016 we have winessed miracle from Murray, so Nadal becoming No1 at the end of 2019 is not so impossible.
The sequence of events was nothing similar to 2019. First of all Novak pulled the Nole slam and after capturing the elusive RG trophy he was clearly deflated for the latter part of the 2016 season, nothing similar to this one. His form obviously dropped as did his focus, we all remember the Querrey match as the most notable one but there was a first round loss at the Olympics to Delpo and a couple other notable losses to Agut ( not nearly what he is today ) and Cilic when he was trying to prevent the loss of the #1 spot but should have clearly taken some time off - like he did this time around.

So, not impossible but highly improbable.
 

daddy

Legend
Yeah, but Murray played bunch of tournaments to achieve that, which probably caused that injury later on and Nadal won't play much during fall.
He basically ruined the rest of his career trying to get to #1 sensing the opportunity cause the only ATG who was active & serious at the time was Novak while Rog was completely out and Rafa was out of form.
 

OhYes

Legend
The sequence of events was nothing similar to 2019. First of all Novak pulled the Nole slam and after capturing the elusive RG trophy he was clearly deflated for the latter part of the 2016 season, nothing similar to this one. His form obviously dropped as did his focus, we all remember the Querrey match as the most notable one but there was a first round loss at the Olympics to Delpo and a couple other notable losses to Agut ( not nearly what he is today ) and Cilic when he was trying to prevent the loss of the #1 spot but should have clearly taken some time off - like he did this time around.

So, not impossible but highly improbable.
I am not actually comparing 2 situations but just saying that to us it was impossible Nole would lose No1 spot in 2016.
 

daddy

Legend
I am not actually comparing 2 situations but just saying that to us it was impossible Nole would lose No1 spot in 2016.
I knew it back then, I even called my dad and told him to stop watching tennis for a while if he cares for his health as Novak is #1 on paper but not the best player in the world.
 

daddy

Legend
Yeah but he never defended successfully hard court title too and Murray was never No1 before 2016. :p
This was a 250 tourney draw, no wonder he defended the title. Anyways he doesn't have any issues dispatching just about anyone apart from Roger and Novak on HC but both Roger and Novak are here and in form ready to slug it out. Still science fiction in my mind, Rafa being the YE#1

Edit : don't worry you won't jinx him. :rolleyes: Only one guy can do that and it's his brother in collaboration with his pal Pepe and I think he knows better these days.
 
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