Djokovic refuses to ditch Barricade 7? How come?

Levi_Ackerman

Levi_Ackerman

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Is it a superstitious thing, or what? Other players tend to wear the latest version, e.g, Roger, Rafa and Andy. But Novak seems to have stuck with the 7s, albeit in different colours.

Btw, I'm not saying that he should ditch the 7s. I'm just curious as to why he hasn't. I'm sure Adidas are trying to persuade him to wear their latest - so as to them much-needed exposure/promotion.
 
vsbabolat said:
What Roger wears you can't buy.
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Yes, you can! Of course you can! Have you tried looking on the Nike website. Why would they (Nike) invest in designing something, invest millions in an athlete to promote that thing by wearing it and then not make it available to the public? How would they recoup their investment?
 
Levi_Ackerman said:
Yes, you can! Of course you can! Have you tried looking on the Nike website. Why would they (Nike) invest in designing something, invest millions in an athlete to promote that thing by wearing it and then not make it available to the public? How would they recoup their investment?
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Right and you can buy the racquet djokovic uses. You have lit to learn. Federer wears a custom made shoe that only looks like the vapor 9.5. In fact the color ways that Federer wore at the U.S. Open you could not buy.
 
vsbabolat said:
What Roger wears you can't buy. Djkovic likes the barricade 7.
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This is half true

Roger has a lot of customization done to his shoes, but they are basically a Le mans version of a retail car. You can't buy it, but you can get pretty darn close. And who would want to buy the shoe he wears? It's super wide and has super sticky rubber which does not last.

Djokovic turned the barricade 7 into a heritage shoe, a la novak pro
 
Ihatetennis said:
This is half true

Roger has a lot of customization done to his shoes, but they are basically a Le mans version of a retail car. You can't buy it, but you can get pretty darn close. And who would want to buy the shoe he wears? It's super wide and has super sticky rubber which does not last.

Djokovic turned the barricade 7 into a heritage shoe, a la novak pro
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Actually more than half true. Roger shoe has little to do with what you buy in the store. Just like Novaks racket has very little to do with what you buy or could ever buy in the store...
 
dr325i said:
Actually more than half true. Roger shoe has little to do with what you buy in the store. Just like Novaks racket has very little to do with what you buy or could ever buy in the store...
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Rogers is based off of what's in the store

And uses many of the same parts.

Djokovic only uses the same paint
 
6august said:
Yes. Barricade 2, 5, 7, 9 (boost version) are great. 4, 6 are OK. 8 and 8+ suck. Never tried 1.
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Concise and spot-on. The 5/7/9 stand above all of them in terms of fit and comfortability. The midsole on BV5, B7, and especially B9 are also stellar and separate them from the pack
 
It's kind of fascinating that he doesn't change shoes. Or at least have Adidas make further adjustments to his (like what Roger has with Nike).
I mean, we've seen Djokovic lose his footing during matches tons of times, he often seems irritated by his shoes after it happens, and yet he makes no changes...
 
Simple explanation would be because it's what he finds most comfortable and is most familiar with. I'm sure Adidas provide him with samples of their new shoes to test however he obviously prefers the B7 as opposed to anything they've bought out since.

Similar to why Federer persisted with the V6 until Nike bought out something he felt more comfortable in (V9)....although even with the V9 & 9.5 he has still retained elements from his PE V6....outsole, carbon fiber shank, fabric toe guard.
 
Say Chi Sin Lo said:
Because the Barricade 7 was the last Barricade done right. Barricade 8 wore like a brick and I gave up after that.
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I agree. I don't understand why manufacturers make something right and then change it. Especially the things I like!!

The 7's are like foot gloves and ultra stable.
 
Levi_Ackerman said:
Yes, you can! Of course you can! Have you tried looking on the Nike website. Why would they (Nike) invest in designing something, invest millions in an athlete to promote that thing by wearing it and then not make it available to the public? How would they recoup their investment?
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because NIKE designs different shoes for Mass public and Roger Federer. Roger has to tweek a few thing for his personal preferences.....and it doesn't apply to you. and you probably wouldn't like those little tweeks that roger makes. only teenagers want to wear exact same shoes that Roger wears, just cause they think they can play like Roger if they wear exact same shoe.....lol
 
Nostradamus said:
because NIKE designs different shoes for Mass public and Roger Federer. Roger has to tweek a few thing for his personal preferences.....and it doesn't apply to you. and you probably wouldn't like those little tweeks that roger makes. only teenagers want to wear exact same shoes that Roger wears, just cause they think they can play like Roger if they wear exact same shoe.....lol
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Weren't you one of the people on shoes and appearal that's always asking questions and what the best shoes this and if I changed to naras strings maybe it would help me since I'm also short etc etc


You're being hypocritical here considering you're one of the most gear headed people here...
 
Nostradamus said:
because NIKE designs different shoes for Mass public and Roger Federer. Roger has to tweek a few thing for his personal preferences.....and it doesn't apply to you. and you probably wouldn't like those little tweeks that roger makes. only teenagers want to wear exact same shoes that Roger wears, just cause they think they can play like Roger if they wear exact same shoe.....lol
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What on earth are you talking about?
 
Levi_Ackerman said:
What on earth are you talking about?
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I saw a comparison photo quite some time ago when an actual pair of Federer's shoes were compared to the retail model. Federer's one is wider to accommodate his two pairs of sock tradition. The outsoles were obviously much better quality and dont get wrecked after a month unlike the vapors you can buy which aren't very durable to be honest. There were also a few little tweeks but I don't remember what they were.

update: found the link. Here you go mate: http://imgur.com/a/64lXL#0
 
Every foot is individual and i'm sure we all have shoes that we have loved and felt so comfortable in them whilst playing From the sounds of reviews the 7's are a case of if it ain't broke don't fix it / replace it. Maybe Novak will just paint job his shoes like his 90's racquet to keep sponsors happy :-)
We were only discussing changing products yesterday, like the BT7 sh*t in Vs gut, why oh why must they change great things. Good on Nole for sticking to what works for him.

Someone of 3bay was selling feds shoes from the us open 2015, some legal thing with Nike and had them listed as a rare item, I think they had 2-3 pairs, weren't cheap either...
 
Zielmann said:
It's kind of fascinating that he doesn't change shoes. Or at least have Adidas make further adjustments to his (like what Roger has with Nike).
I mean, we've seen Djokovic lose his footing during matches tons of times, he often seems irritated by his shoes after it happens, and yet he makes no changes...
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Djokovic probably realizes it's his own fault. He is known to file down the soles of his shoes for better sliding. It's a bit of a two-edged sword.
 
DJ- said:
Every foot is individual and i'm sure we all have shoes that we have loved and felt so comfortable in them whilst playing From the sounds of reviews the 7's are a case of if it ain't broke don't fix it / replace it. Maybe Novak will just paint job his shoes like his 90's racquet to keep sponsors happy :)
We were only discussing changing products yesterday, like the BT7 sh*t in Vs gut, why oh why must they change great things. Good on Nole for sticking to what works for him.

Someone of 3bay was selling feds shoes from the us open 2015, some legal thing with Nike and had them listed as a rare item, I think they had 2-3 pairs, weren't cheap either...
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Not to mention Fed has carbon fibre shank plates in all his shoes while we get the rubber/whatever it is in the retail version. That makes quite a difference in how the shoes feel...
 
Ihatetennis said:
This is half true

Roger has a lot of customization done to his shoes, but they are basically a Le mans version of a retail car. You can't buy it, but you can get pretty darn close. And who would want to buy the shoe he wears? It's super wide and has super sticky rubber which does not last.

Djokovic turned the barricade 7 into a heritage shoe, a la novak pro
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Super sticky, I saw him slide a lot at the US Open
 
Sander001 said:
Super sticky, I saw him slide a lot at the US Open
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Well, you and I can buy Xdr outsoles vapors

His are much softer rubber


Basically gonna use f1 as an example, there are 4 types of tires

Super soft
Soft
Medium
And hard

We use the Xdr or hard compound. Federer uses the soft or super soft compound

It's all up to preference, but having heard from a couple tour players and Nike reps, the shoes they get are considerably grippier than retail versions. And the guys I've heard it from have fed worn match shoes(the retailer) and s top 200 pro who is Nike sponsored
 
Ihatetennis said:
Well, you and I can buy Xdr outsoles vapors

His are much softer rubber


Basically gonna use f1 as an example, there are 4 types of tires

Super soft
Soft
Medium
And hard

We use the Xdr or hard compound. Federer uses the soft or super soft compound

It's all up to preference, but having heard from a couple tour players and Nike reps, the shoes they get are considerably grippier than retail versions. And the guys I've heard it from have fed worn match shoes(the retailer) and s top 200 pro who is Nike sponsored
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Fortunately, Fed's shoes last longer than 3 laps...
 
Ihatetennis said:
haha yes, but thats a pretty good analogy

the pros need their shoes to last practice and matches for a week, and they usually have 2-3 pairs a tournament
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Please tell me I'm reading that incorrectly and you do actually realise that Fed's PE Nike shoes are significantly less durable than the actual retail Vapors!

I'm not saying the retail Vapors are the most durable shoes on the market but the PE ones which Fed wears are essentially made of softer materials so as that there's no break in time.
The fact Fed has PE shoes made exclusively for him by Nike with his own little monogram on them is a fair indication that durability isn't top of his list seeing he would have access to a brand new pair for every training session, match or causal hit he could possibly imagine (not saying he does use a new pair every time but hopefully you get the picture!).
 
Dave1982 said:
Please tell me I'm reading that incorrectly and you do actually realise that Fed's PE Nike shoes are significantly less durable than the actual retail Vapors!

I'm not saying the retail Vapors are the most durable shoes on the market but the PE ones which Fed wears are essentially made of softer materials so as that there's no break in time.
The fact Fed has PE shoes made exclusively for him by Nike with his own little monogram on them is a fair indication that durability isn't top of his list seeing he would have access to a brand new pair for every training session, match or causal hit he could possibly imagine (not saying he does use a new pair every time but hopefully you get the picture!).
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I said they had shoes that were less durable

I don't understand your attack when I'm the one who started the conversation on it

"At least they last longer than 3 laps" I mean he has 3 or so pairs that last 1 tournament I know that, and lol they aren't super Undurable even tho they're sugnificantly softer. That's all I was getting at
 
Ihatetennis said:
Well, you and I can buy Xdr outsoles vapors

His are much softer rubber


Basically gonna use f1 as an example, there are 4 types of tires

Super soft
Soft
Medium
And hard

We use the Xdr or hard compound. Federer uses the soft or super soft compound

It's all up to preference, but having heard from a couple tour players and Nike reps, the shoes they get are considerably grippier than retail versions. And the guys I've heard it from have fed worn match shoes(the retailer) and s top 200 pro who is Nike sponsored
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So he was sliding so much at the US Open, you're saying the regular shoes slide even more? Must be like playing on ice lol
 
Sander001 said:
So he was sliding so much at the US Open, you're saying the regular shoes slide even more? Must be like playing on ice lol
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Regular shoes do slide more

Pros can also choose to slide, look at what happens when players get pulled wide specifically fed vs Rafa on the backhand

Federer slides and Rafa stops with all his force on his foot and knee

Sliding is healthier and often times a choice
 
BuildStrikeCosmos said:
I saw a comparison photo quite some time ago when an actual pair of Federer's shoes were compared to the retail model. Federer's one is wider to accommodate his two pairs of sock tradition. The outsoles were obviously much better quality and dont get wrecked after a month unlike the vapors you can buy which aren't very durable to be honest. There were also a few little tweeks but I don't remember what they were.

update: found the link. Here you go mate: http://imgur.com/a/64lXL#0
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How did that person get his/her hands on the actual shoe worn by Roger during RG 2013? That's amazing! :eek:
 
Ihatetennis said:
I said they had shoes that were less durable

I don't understand your attack when I'm the one who started the conversation on it

"At least they last longer than 3 laps" I mean he has 3 or so pairs that last 1 tournament I know that, and lol they aren't super Undurable even tho they're sugnificantly softer. That's all I was getting at
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Apologies mate I obviously misread yours and others comments...it seemed as though everyone was taking the angle that PE shoes are more durable than the retail ones...my mistake. obviously
 
Why would he change ANYTHING?? He's dominating tennis. Number 1 in the world by far.
If it ain't broke, don't fix it, baby!
 
Dave1982 said:
Apologies mate I obviously misread yours and others comments...it seemed as though everyone was taking the angle that PE shoes are more durable than the retail ones...my mistake. obviously
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It's all good

And lol not at all, pe shoes are like basketball shoes in rubber
 
ArliHawk said:
I'll see your 2015 and raise you the Boost.

Best
shoe
ever
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2016 is muuuuuuuuccccccchhhhhh better and that is coming from a guy who HAS every single barricade from sizes 4-11 in case it gets small!

But i would prevfer B7 Novak Pro to ANY shoe. partly because the claws work much better than the 8 and 8+ and partly cuz... cum on! Djokovic uses that!

Why do they not make B11 Boost(Nxt year) or B10 Boost with 2 claws, one in the middle and one in the top! but it might be heavy...
 
What's the difference between Barricade 2015 and 2016? Except the polka dots are gone, of course. They look the same to me.
 
scotus said:
Djokovic probably realizes it's his own fault. He is known to file down the soles of his shoes for better sliding. It's a bit of a two-edged sword.
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I agree. It's also a mechanism during matches to not beat himself up for missing a shot - it was the shoe's fault!

I don't blame the pros for not switching - it's their livelihood. But if I were a vendor I'd have language in their contracts that stated 'less money for not switching.' Because in the internet age, the word gets out.
 
Gasquet has been wearing the same Asics for at least 60 years.

Like the guy above says, if it aint broke don't fix it. Although it would be boring to me personally to wear the same thing.
 
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