Djokovic second favorite for Wimbledon

#1
Djokovic got his first top 5 win in a while today. Seems to be rounding into great form heading into Wimbledon

If Fed falters in early round to Kyrgios or if it is a late round Djok-Fed match , Djoker is a genuine contender for a 4th title here
 

ak24alive

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#5
Lets wait for the end of Queen's first. We should wait and watch how he does against Krygios or Cilic. He absolutely has the potential to win Wimby in the form he has shown in the last 2 matches but now a days with Novak it's not about the form but if he can maintain that form. That's a big question he has to answer yet.
 

cc0509

Talk Tennis Guru
#8
You've determined this based on his win over Dumbitrov? Maybe, just maybe, you should wait to see if he wins the Queen's title and even if he does that, maybe you should wait to see his draw at Wimbledon? And he's not the bookies current second favorite, Nadal is(as funny as that sounds but look at the field!)


Lets wait for the end of Queen's first. We should wait and watch how he does against Krygios or Cilic. He absolutely has the potential to win Wimby in the form he has shown in the last 2 matches but now a days with Novak it's not about the form but if he can maintain that form. That's a big question he has to answer yet.
The form he's shown vs juggernauts like Millman and Dimitrov? :confused: Guys, come on! He should make the final at Queens given his sinfully easy draw but first let's see if he can win the title and secondly, let's wait to see his draw at Wimbledon!
 
#12
You've determined this based on his win over Dumbitrov? Maybe, just maybe, you should wait to see if he wins the Queen's title and even if he does that, maybe you should wait to see his draw at Wimbledon? And he's not the bookies current second favorite, Nadal is(as funny as that sounds but look at the field.


The form he's shown vs juggernauts like Millman and Dimitrov? :confused: Guys, come on! He should make the final at Queens given his sinfully easy draw but first let's see if he can win the title and secondly, let's wait to see his draw at Wimbledon!
Novak displayed very high level during last 2 matches

He is looking dangerous and is a match win away from being close to his high level

If we cannot see the upward trend since Miami, we are fools
 

vex

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#15
Novak displayed very high level during last 2 matches

He is looking dangerous and is a match win away from being close to his high level

If we cannot see the upward trend since Miami, we are fools
He's trending up but I need to see a win over a top 10 in a BO5 before I talk myself into him contending
 

Steve0904

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#16
You've determined this based on his win over Dumbitrov? Maybe, just maybe, you should wait to see if he wins the Queen's title and even if he does that, maybe you should wait to see his draw at Wimbledon? And he's not the bookies current second favorite, Nadal is(as funny as that sounds but look at the field!)
It doesn't sound funny at all if you think about it, but I don't think it has much, or anything to do with the field itself. The bookies know that any random dude can beat Nadal, but they also know that random dude is not as likely to win the title as Nadal is. And so Nadal is the second favourite.
 
#17
Novak displayed very high level during last 2 matches

He is looking dangerous and is a match win away from being close to his high level

If we cannot see the upward trend since Miami, we are fools
The user you quoted told me in some thread that Simona won't win a GS and few days later... so maybe so much confidence in our own comments isn't all that right I guess.
 

cc0509

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#22
Novak displayed very high level during last 2 matches

He is looking dangerous and is a match win away from being close to his high level

If we cannot see the upward trend since Miami, we are fools
I didn't watch his matches but as I said, he beat Millman and Dimitrov! Wait until he wins the Queen's title and then wait for his Wimbledon draw. People were saying he was back when he won Eastbourne vs a poor field and then what happened? Also, people have been predicting the old Djokovic was back a million times including at the FO and then he lost to Fettucine. He may or may not be back to elite form but at least wait for him to have some competitive matches vs players who can challenge him before going crazy.
 
#23
He's trending up but I need to see a win over a top 10 in a BO5 before I talk myself into him contending
By that time he would already be in the QF or SF of Wimbledon though, so it should be obvious that had be contending by then.

I'm encouraged by his early form here.
 

Sport

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#24
Lol.I have been wondering what if Djokovic reached the RG final that year.Would he have beaten Nadal.Remember he defeated Nadal in Madrid and Rome finals before that.We will never know but it is interesting question for me at least
1. Rome and Madrid are faster than Roland Garros.

2. Nadal leads Djokovic 6-1 at Roland Garros. Djokovic couldn't even beat Federer who was defeated by Nadal, so how on earth do you expect Djokovic to defeat Nadal?

3. Nadal defeated Djokovic in the Roland Garros 2012 final, after having lost the last 3 GS finals in a row against Djokovic (WB 2011, USO 2011, AO 2012). So like in 2011, 2012 Djokovic had a mental advantage over Nadal an still was not enough. There is no difference between 2012 Djokovic and 2011 Djokovic, the result would have been the same.

4. You are making an untestable claim with "Djokovic would have defeated Nadal at RG 2011". Untestable claims are irrelevant for a serious tennis debate. How can you refute the claim "Djokovic would have defeated Nadal at RG 2011"?
The claim "Unicorns exist in an alternative universe" is irrefutable and it doesn't mean that it is true. Analogously, the claim "Djokovic would have defeated Nadal at RG 2011" is irrefutable, and it doesn't mean that it is true. It is irrefutable because it is untestable, not necessarily because it is true. No one can create a time machine to put 2011 Djokovic and Nadal playing at RG.
 
#25
Novak displayed very high level during last 2 matches

He is looking dangerous and is a match win away from being close to his high level

If we cannot see the upward trend since Miami, we are fools
Definitely. Well on the way back; combined with a generally underwhelming field, he’s a contender without doubt.
 

cc0509

Talk Tennis Guru
#26
The user you quoted told me in some thread that Simona won't win a GS and few days later... so maybe so much confidence in our own comments isn't all that right I guess.
I never said she would never win a slam. I was talking about how poor her past slam final performances were and said that maybe with the tougher draw at the FO this year, she would win. Also, if you look at the FO WTA threads, I predicted Halep would beat Stephens. That tough draw definitely helped her and so did her seeing a sports shrink.

As for Djokovic, he may or may not be back at close to his top level but beating Milman and Dimitrov isn't really the best indicator. Wait to see if he lifts the Queen's trophy and wait to see how his Wimbledon draw looks. He's had no challengers so far at Queens and his draw is dead easy for him to make the final. Let's see if those screwballs Cilic/Kyrgios can challenge him.
 
#29
I think we've seen enough from most of the players to determine a rough list of favourites now. Novak is definitely near the top of that list as long as he keeps improving.

1. Berdych
2. Federer
3. Djokovic
4. Nadal
5. Cilic
6. Murray
Then everyone else - Zverev probably 7th, but all the others in the field have ok chances
 

cc0509

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#33
I think we've seen enough from most of the players to determine a rough list of favourites now. Novak is definitely near the top of that list as long as he keeps improving.

1. Berdych
2. Federer
3. Djokovic
4. Nadal
5. Cilic
6. Murray
Then everyone else - Zverev probably 7th, but all the others in the field have ok chances
Obviously trolling!
 
#35
I think we've seen enough from most of the players to determine a rough list of favourites now. Novak is definitely near the top of that list as long as he keeps improving.

1. Berdych
2. Federer
3. Djokovic
4. Nadal
5. Cilic
6. Murray
Then everyone else - Zverev probably 7th, but all the others in the field have ok chances
Have to agree with this list. It's fair, impartial, and justified.
 
#38
Novak displayed very high level during last 2 matches
The amount of hyperbole here is off the charts. Maybe those thinking he's somehow (miraculously) back to 2015 form need to consider the caliber of his last 2 opponents: Millman and a choking, intimidated, cringing Dimitrov. Now, if he meets Nick (assuming Nick will be actually trying to win) and beats him, then one can confidently say he's playing better than in Miami or IW. But that isn't being "back." Being back means winning Masters 1000's, defeating Fed or Nadal or winning a slam.
 
#39
Beating Grigor Dimitrov is a good step in the right direction but it’s not that huge. It’s good for Wimbledon and tennis if he, Fed and Nadal all look good there.
 
#48
Lol @ this thread.

Haters gonna hate I guess.

Yeah I'd say 3rd favorite is about right but you could argue for 2nd.

He's much like Nadal in that I wouldn't be surprised if he lost R2 or if he won the whole thing.
 
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