Not since 2013, went to Seiko in 2014.I thought he was with Audemars Piguet
Yes, his contract was supposed to end in 2020.Seems that Djokovic is not wearing his watch. Also Seiko logo is not on his website anymore.
Looks like they have parted ways.
They can charge whatever they want for their watches without celebrity fluffers.Patek!
Edit: nope, I forgot they don’t sponsor anyone
PP would never sponsor Novak, ever. He’s not even remotely classy enough to warrant a Patek Philippe sponsorship. Federer on the other hand, perfect choicePatek!
Edit: nope, I forgot they don’t sponsor anyone
PP would never sponsor Novak, ever. He’s not even remotely classy enough to warrant a Patek Philippe sponsorship.
Hublot sounds about Right LOL , Nadal likes that watch because it’s considered sporty and lightweight but damn I find them so ghastly and overpriced.Hublot should sponsor Djokovic.
(And btw does that Richard Mille watch suit Nadal?)
The cracks in Federer's classiness is quickly fading.PP would never sponsor Novak, ever. He’s not even remotely classy enough to warrant a Patek Philippe sponsorship. Federer on the other hand, perfect choice
They can charge whatever they want for their watches without celebrity fluffers.
Hublot should sponsor Djokovic.
(And btw does that Richard Mille watch suit Nadal?)
Rafa gets the watches for free! Those who buy them for $300K+ not going wear them while playing sports!Nadal's RM is a joke: Nadal has broken many of those while playing, so they are not nearly as sturdy as what they are advertised to be: the reason being that a mechanical watch just has no business being subjected to such impacts (regardless of if it is tennis, or something else). Nadal would make a wonderful ambassador for G-shock.
Rafa gets the watches for free! Those who buy them for $300K+ not going wear them while playing sports!
They're gaudy watches for people who want others to notice how much money they spent on their watch. The absurd price tag is RM's main marketing tactic, given that there's no more than a few hundred dollars in materials that goes into the watches themselves (this is also true of PP, Rolex, AP, and every overpriced modern POS watch). The entire industry has become a joke that's driven entirely by artificial scarcity and explicit/implicit celebrity endorsements. I hope Novak sticks with a brand that offers affordable watches with practical utility, not the modern-day jewelry made for instagram wannabe rich kids.Rafa gets the watches for free! Those who buy them for $300K+ not going wear them while playing sports!
Agree totally. I had a citizen diver watch that worked like a charm for 30 years. I loved that watch. Unfortunately I lost it (I suspect it was stolen), and shudder every time I think about it. I would not of swapped that watch for Federer's Rolex.They're gaudy watches for people who want others to notice how much money they spent on their watch. The absurd price tag is RM's main marketing tactic, given that there's no more than a few hundred dollars in materials that goes into the watches themselves (this is also true of PP, Rolex, AP, and every overpriced modern POS watch). The entire industry has become a joke that's driven entirely by artificial scarcity and explicit/implicit celebrity endorsements. I hope Novak sticks with a brand that offers affordable watches with practical utility, not the modern-day jewelry made for instagram wannabe rich kids.
It's really sad what has happened to the entire industry. I grew up a big fan of watches and always had one on my wrist, even while sleeping and showering. The last watch I ever bought was the Rolex Daytona in my profile pic and it ended up making me feel like an idiot for waring a piece of overpriced jewelry on my wrist. Rolexes used to be great watches, but sometime over the past 15-20 years they lost their intended function and become exclusively status symbols with jacked up prices to match. I used to own a GMT-Master II that I purchased for less than $2k when I was young and I wore it everywhere, swimming around rocks, isolated beaches, month-long trips in the tropics with no lodging, just not caring what happened do it at all. That's how they used to be made and marketed. After getting the Ceramic Daytona (which required me to call in favors from friends just for the privilege of buying it) it was clear from the moment I put it on that this watch isn't suited for even typing on a MacBook Pro. There's no function left; it's all poseur "look at me" jewelry. I feel like Panerai kind of ushered in this trend of instagram hype watches, and after seeing one on the wrist of every Jersey Shore guido about 15 years ago, I literally sold mine the next day. I sold the Rolex within a week of realizing that its price and demand were wholly dictated by Rolex themselves, using the same marketing strategy that Nike uses to get kids to line up for "limited release" Air Jordan shoes. The whole damn industry is a scam preying on image-conscious kids who want others to think they're wealthy. I hope it all collapses.Agree totally. I had a citizen diver watch that worked like a charm for 30 years. I loved that watch. Unfortunately I lost it (I suspect it was stolen), and shudder every time I think about it. I would not of swapped that watch for Federer's Rolex.
SEIKO are fantastic watches. Tough as nails. They are made for every pocket out there.
I barely use my Seiko (a $300 Premier from 20-ish years ago) and still managed to break the mainplateSEIKO are fantastic watches. Tough as nails. They are made for every pocket out there.
yep - i felt the same. after some years of "collecting" (& they are all stored away...), i have finally settled on ONE watch for the last 2.5 years....There's no function left; it's all poseur "look at me" jewelry.
Casio G-Shock DW5600........low key original GShock. Will get you through 3 Zombie Apocalypses.I would have liked to wear a Casio Gshock for its functionality, but they are gaudy in their own way. I need a very plain, clear and legible watch face so that I could tell time without eyeglasses. I don't need a gazillion of indicators packed like sardines. So for now I'm stuck with a German flieger.
Casio G-Shock DW5600........low key original GShock. Will get you through 3 Zombie Apocalypses.
I wouldn't laugh. The DW5600, is the Glock of watches.
i can recommend the good old F91W - they are cheap enough and also come in all sorts of different funky colours
It's really sad what has happened to the entire industry. I grew up a big fan of watches and always had one on my wrist, even while sleeping and showering. The last watch I ever bought was the Rolex Daytona in my profile pic and it ended up making me feel like an idiot for waring a piece of overpriced jewelry on my wrist. Rolexes used to be great watches, but sometime over the past 15-20 years they lost their intended function
and become exclusively status symbols with jacked up prices to match. I used to own a GMT-Master II that I purchased for less than $2k when I was young and I wore it everywhere, swimming around rocks, isolated beaches, month-long trips in the tropics with no lodging, just not caring what happened do it at all. That's how they used to be made and marketed. After getting the Ceramic Daytona (which required me to call in favors from friends just for the privilege of buying it) it was clear from the moment I put it on that this watch isn't suited for even typing on a MacBook Pro. There's no function left; it's all poseur "look at me" jewelry. I feel like Panerai kind of ushered in this trend of instagram hype watches, and after seeing one on the wrist of every Jersey Shore guido about 15 years ago, I literally sold mine the next day. I sold the Rolex within a week of realizing that its price and demand were wholly dictated by Rolex themselves, using the same marketing strategy that Nike uses to get kids to line up for "limited release" Air Jordan shoes. The whole damn industry is a scam preying on image-conscious kids who want others to think they're wealthy. I hope it all collapses.
Actually, Seiko automatic movements are made by Miyota. It's another Japanese company and a subsidiary of Citizen, I believe.
Seikos are good watches. Seiko is one of the companies that makes everything in their watches: cases, movements, etc.
Agree!!Where did they lose it?
What an odd diatribe!
Firstly, OF COURSE that expensive things (be it watches, cars, jewellery, food, wine, etc) are also a status symbol. That doesn't deter from their intended purpose. It is like saying that a Ferrari La Ferrari "lost its purpose", because it is not a pure bred gas guzzler anymore, or because a Tesla Plaid can crush it in a 0-60 miles acceleration.
It wasn't Panerai that did that. Panerai existed as an original and had its own aesthetic before they were revamped. They actually used Rolex movements once upon a time (when that practice was ubiquitous). After they were brought back to life they stayed true to their aesthetic.
What "function" has the Certona lost in comparison with the normal Daytona?
I will make a wild guess and say that you are bitter that more people that "don't deserve it" have now access to these things, as opposed to "before" (referenced by your comment about the "guidos"), and that you have been priced out of the market. Oh, you like your privileges, more than you like your toys. Too bad!
My wrong. Seiko calibers 6R/NH35 are not made by Miyota.
Panerai was an obscure Italian brand until Sylvester Stallone and some investors bought it to commercialize, mass-produce, and capitalize on the "large watch" trend 20 years ago. Given their comically large proportions for everyday wear, people with ostentatious taste and a desire to project their alleged wealth gravitated toward the brand, hence the "Jersey Shore guido" comment. At one point around 2006 when I was staying at the W in Fort Lauderdale, I saw a Panerai on the wrist of every other 20-something juicehead with gaudy tattoos. It's a tacky watch for people who crave attention. No one's using that thing for diving; they're trying to draw attention to their expensive/overpriced watch. As for your "you've been priced out of the market" and "you are bitter" comments, I'm not sure what you're trying to imply, but I don't wear watches to show off wealth, nor would I have any problem affording any production watch in existence. That kind of thinking is what ruined the entire industry.Where did they lose it?
What an odd diatribe!
Firstly, OF COURSE that expensive things (be it watches, cars, jewellery, food, wine, etc) are also a status symbol. That doesn't deter from their intended purpose. It is like saying that a Ferrari La Ferrari "lost its purpose", because it is not a pure bred gas guzzler anymore, or because a Tesla Plaid can crush it in a 0-60 miles acceleration.
It wasn't Panerai that did that. Panerai existed as an original and had its own aesthetic before they were revamped. They actually used Rolex movements once upon a time (when that practice was ubiquitous). After they were brought back to life they stayed true to their aesthetic.
What "function" has the Certona lost in comparison with the normal Daytona?
I will make a wild guess and say that you are bitter that more people that "don't deserve it" have now access to these things, as opposed to "before" (referenced by your comment about the "guidos"), and that you have been priced out of the market. Oh, you like your privileges, more than you like your toys. Too bad!
Panerai was an obscure Italian brand until Sylvester Stallone and some investors bought it to commercialize, mass-produce, and capitalize on the "large watch" trend 20 years ago. Given their comically large proportions for everyday wear, people with ostentatious taste and a desire to project their alleged wealth gravitated toward the brand, hence the "Jersey Shore guido" comment. At one point around 2006 when I was staying at the W in Fort Lauderdale, I saw a Panerai on the wrist of every other 20-something juicehead with gaudy tattoos. It's a tacky watch for people who crave attention. No one's using that thing for diving; they're trying to draw attention to their expensive/overpriced watch. As for your "you've been priced out of the market" and "you are bitter" comments, I'm not sure what you're trying to imply, but I don't wear watches to show off wealth, nor would I have any problem affording any production watch in existence. That kind of thinking is what ruined the entire industry.
I didn't just realize after the fact that it's a status symbol. They've always been status symbols to an extent, and I've been wearing their watches since I was 15. But in recent years the status symbol aspect is the only aspect that remains and it's been ratcheted up to 50. The entire company and industry for that matter has become entirely centered on status. That's not a hobby I want to be part of anymore. And PP is just as bad, if not worse.Panerai was making instruments for the Italian Navy before even Stalone's father had plans about Stalone existing. Same for pretty much every reputable brand at the time. They also had their distinctive aesthetic, which was different than anything out there, and were using high quality movements for their production, so who decided to bring it back to life is irrelevant to the topic of what Panerai represented. The aesthetics of Panerai are a matter of taste. I can pretty much call names almost every watch on the market and could attach qualifications to their wearers, or do you think that most PP owners are "classy"? Also, if you didn't want to get noticed and still wear their aesthetic, you could get a Radiomir.
You don't wear watches to show off wealth, yet you don't wear watches for their own life either, because you wouldn't be talking about basically the same watch (the ceramic Daytona is still the same Daytona) in such terms, and let's be frank, you have to be a complete whacko, to realise only after the fact of buying a watch for tens of thousands of USD that it is also a status symbol. Or did you think that normal people have such sums of money just lying around like you did, and spent them like you did?
I didn't just realize after the fact that it's a status symbol. They've always been status symbols to an extent, and I've been wearing their watches since I was 15. But in recent years the status symbol aspect is the only aspect that remains and it's been ratcheted up to 50. The entire company and industry for that matter has become entirely centered on status. That's not a hobby I want to be part of anymore. And PP is just as bad, if not worse.
Well the first Rolex I got was like $1800 and I was able to buy it myself as a 15-year-old and wear for years without even taking it off. It was modestly priced and you weren't worried about roughing it up. Newer models cost 10x that despite having essentially the same internals, they're much bulkier, and they'd stick out like a sore thumb if you're wearing one camping on a Caribbean beach for a month. I didn't have the older Daytona because I hated the SS bezel, but the older GMT and Submariner are completely different types of watches compared to their newer counterparts. Ones were made to be used and beat up; the others were made to show off that you're wearing a Rolex. And other companies took the same approach, most to an even greater extent.Which were the other aspects beyond the status symbol that you enjoyed until the situation changed according to your views?
Well the first Rolex I got was like $1800 and I was able to buy it myself as a 15-year-old and wear for years without even taking it off. It was modestly priced and you weren't worried about roughing it up. Newer models cost 10x that despite having essentially the same internals, they're much bulkier, and they'd stick out like a sore thumb if you're wearing one camping on a Caribbean beach for a month. I didn't have the older Daytona because I hated the SS bezel, but the older GMT and Submariner are completely different types of watches compared to their newer counterparts. Ones were made to be used and beat up; the others were made to show off that you're wearing a Rolex. And other companies took the same approach, most to an even greater extent.
They are both ugly watches.Panerai just like Rolex was originally a tool watch for divers. It's large size & bright lume was to allow legibility when diving deep. It took off when Sly Stallone wore it in "Daylight". Panerai had the exclusivity quotient tied down with each watch produced in limited numbers. But their greed did them in. They kept production limited for each model but increased the no. of models to an insane level. The death knell came when they did the Dbag move of re-releasing a Limited Edition. Collectors just couldn't stomach that move! Then it was no longer cool to wear a Panerai. Even Sly started auctioning his Panerais. He also did the same for his RMs.
Panerai just like Rolex was originally a tool watch for divers. It's large size & bright lume was to allow legibility when diving deep. It took off when Sly Stallone wore it in "Daylight". Panerai had the exclusivity quotient tied down with each watch produced in limited numbers. But their greed did them in. They kept production limited for each model but increased the no. of models to an insane level. The death knell came when they did the Dbag move of re-releasing a Limited Edition. Collectors just couldn't stomach that move! Then it was no longer cool to wear a Panerai. Even Sly started auctioning his Panerais. He also did the same for his RMs.
How do we know Rafa breaks them?Fedace, Nadal is paid to wear those watches, they are not his property. In fact, he is paid to basically break them. I have seen several of those actually worn while playing sports. I shudder to think what the repair costs when (not if) they break, but a fool and his money are easily parted.
How do we know Rafa breaks them?
Hmmm, the articles mentions that he has broken prototypes while testing not necessarily the final product. If the final product does indeed break what would he do at an ATP event? That would reflect very poorly on RM. I dont think that happens with the final product frequently as I am understating you implying.Because I have read it in interviews with the founder himself, and there are also reports from "outside" sources.
Why Richard Mille wants Rafael Nadal to break their high-end watches
How the watchmaker has convinced sports superstars to wear its timepieces to the games.www.thepeakmagazine.com.sg
Hmmm, the articles mentions that he has broken prototypes while testing not necessarily the final product. If the final product does indeed break what would he do at an ATP event? That would reflect very poorly on RM. I dont think that happens with the final product frequently as I am understating you implying.