Djokovic, the Most Consistent Player of All Time?

Who do you think is the COAT?

  • Nadal

    Votes: 3 8.8%

  • Borg

    Votes: 2 5.9%

  • Djokovic

    Votes: 16 47.1%

  • Connors

    Votes: 1 2.9%

  • Lendl

    Votes: 1 2.9%

  • Federer

    Votes: 10 29.4%

  • Mcneroe

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Laver

    Votes: 1 2.9%

  • Sampras

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Murray

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Total voters
    34
PeterHo

PeterHo

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Who is the most consistent player of all time?

Who keeps on producing good results, match after match, day after day in both big and small tournaments?

Out of all statistics on the ATP website, the match winning % is the best indicator of consistency across matches of all levels.

At this moment, the COAT belongs to Novaaaaaaaaak DJoooooookovic, by a mile.

All time, Rafa is leading atm, but Nole has gained a lot of ground this year ... so I think Nole will come out on top in this statistic when he retires. If he gets the COAT, he will be closer to the GOAT.

2015 match winning %

1

Novak Djokovic 0.940 - 78-5

2

Roger Federer 0.855 - 59-10

3

Andy Murray 0.850 - 68-12



Career match winning %.

1

Rafael Nadal 0.828 - 764-159

2

Bjorn Borg 0.827 64 609-127

3

Novak Djokovic 0.825 - 682-145

4

Jimmy Connors 0.819 109 1254-278

5

Ivan Lendl 0.818 94 1071-239

6

Roger Federer 0.817 - 1055-237

7

John McEnroe 0.815 77 875-198

8

Rod Laver 0.792 44 423-111

9

Pete Sampras 0.774 64 762-222

10

Andy Murray 0.771 - 549-163

11

Boris Becker 0.769 49 713-214

12

Guillermo Vilas 0.765 62 928-285

13

Andre Agassi 0.760 60 870-274

14

Arthur Ashe 0.752 32 634-209

15

Stefan Edberg 0.748 41 801-270

16

Kent Carlsson 0.748 9 160-54

17

John Newcombe 0.743 31 445-154

18

Andy Roddick 0.742 - 612-213

19

Ken Rosewall 0.740 29 444-156

20

Ilie Nastase 0.721 58 774-300
 
It depends ...
In entire career along with other 5 or 6 champions .
In the 5 years ... yes for me .
 
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Please specify criteria because I think at least 20/25% would disagree with Rafa, unless your year ends at June.
Nole is up there (needs longetivity), Federer, Lendl are up there
 
In terms of peak, Federer was more consistent, Djokovic is second. However, even with lesser competition in his prime Roger wasn't as consistent as Djokovic is against the very best players in the world on a tournament in, tournament out basis. That says something.
 
It's not Djokovic because Federer has him beat where it matters most. 23 consecutive GS SF and 10 straight finals (second place on that list is Federer again with 8 straight).
 
I define consistency as being almost always excellent in every match with few ups and downs even withing the match. Djokovic has been very consistent since late 2010 but guys like Connors were consistent virtually his entire career which lated over twenty years. Connors rarely had a bad loss until he started declining due to age. Same with others like Gonzalez, Kramer, Tilden, Budge, Borg, Rosewall, Lendl, Nadal and Federer.

So in the last few years Djokovic has been as consistent as one can get but let's not forget some of his health related problems previously that caused him to be inconsistent at times.
 
I think of all those players on their worst surface Djokovic has the best winning %. I believe he is +80% on all 3 surfaces.
 
Borg's winning percentage is high because he retired early. Nole and Nadal percentage will go down when they are in their 30s.
 
TMF said:
Borg's winning percentage is high because he retired early. Nole and Nadal percentage will go down when they are in their 30s.
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What if Novak retires at the age of 30 with the highest W-L% of all players? He'd still be five years older than Borg was when he quit the sport and would be the average age that most players have retired throughout history.
 
Djokovic2011 said:
What if Novak retires at the age of 30 with the highest W-L% of all players? He'd still be five years older than Borg was when he quit the sport and would be the average age that most players have retired throughout history.
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Many all-time great players retired when they are in their 30s with an exception of Borg who retired at 26. Sampras, Agassi, McEnroe, Becker, Laver, Rosewall, Connors, Lendl - all retired in their 30s.

I expect Nole to play in his 30s and his career winning % will go down.
 
TMF said:
Many all-time great players retired when they are in their 30s with an exception of Borg who retired at 26. Sampras, Agassi, McEnroe, Becker, Laver, Rosewall, Connors, Lendl - all retired in their 30s.

I expect Nole to play in his 30s and his career winning % will go down.
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If Djokovic retires at 30, chances are he'll have played between 950-1000 matches throughout his career. That is enough of a sample size for his W-L% to be regarded as the most impressive.
 
Djokovic2011 said:
If Djokovic retires at 30, chances are he'll have played between 950-1000 matches throughout his career. That is enough of a sample size for his W-L% to be regarded as the most impressive.
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Yeah he could sustains the highest winning % if he retire at 30 but there's a downfall that as he will achieved less like slam titles, ranking, and single titles, etc.. Early retirement has a negative impact as you can see Borg could have won more slams and achieved many more than having an impressive career winning percentage. I don't think Nole and even you would want Nole to keep the high winning % when there's possibly that can accomplished more in his 30s.
 
TMF said:
Yeah he could sustains the highest winning % if he retire at 30 but there's a downfall that as he will achieved less like slam titles, ranking, and single titles, etc.. Early retirement has a negative impact as you can see Borg could have won more slams and achieved many more than having an impressive career winning percentage. I don't think Nole and even you would want Nole to keep the high winning % when there's possibly that can accomplished more in his 30s.
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My point is that, like many other ATGs, 30 is a perfectly respectable age at which to retire so if Novak does finish his career in the next 18 months with the highest ever W-L%, I don't think it can be held against him like it is with Borg who retired a good four years earlier.
 
TMF said:
Many all-time great players retired when they are in their 30s with an exception of Borg who retired at 26. Sampras, Agassi, McEnroe, Becker, Laver, Rosewall, Connors, Lendl - all retired in their 30s.
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You, never retired. . . now, ********?.....different story.​
 
mistik said:
Really ?? This year is the only year he didnt reach multiple GS finals since 09.
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Indeed.But he has not successfully defended any titles except at clay events. That's why I think his consistency is suspicious.You can't ague against facts.
 
Luckydog said:
Indeed.But he has not successfully defended any titles except at clay events. That's why I think his consistency is suspicious.You can't ague against facts.
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This is the most stupid argument ı have ever heard. Why does he has to defend anything outside of clay ?? How many times other players has defend in their least favorite surface ?? He is the one and ONLY player in the modern era to have CAREER GS plus with at least double GS titles on every surface. ;)
 
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Luckydog said:
LOL.Only? Multiple? How many AO titles has Nadal claimed? 9?What a headless and ignorant fan you are!
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I guess you have difficulty to understand what you read. I said multiple GS titles on each surface not tournament and he is still the only one in that department.
3 GS titles on Hard courts
2 GS titles on Grass
9 GS titles on Clay
 
Lol. Rafa has 3/4 years of allcourt ness and rest of the life of coasting on clay result. VERY VERY VERY simple.
 
Of course Djoker isn't the most consistent player of all time. Look at what happened to him after 2011-- 'nough said. He disappeared for a couple of years.

How about Borg? He was unbelievably consistent for 5-6 straight years. Lendl made the finals of the USO 9 straight years. Let's not even get into Fed, who has his streaks of consecutive major semis and everything else on his resume. These guys completely eclipse any consistency of Novak.
 
mistik said:
Nadal is the one and ONLY player in the modern era to have CAREER GS plus with at least double GS titles on every surface. ;)
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Really? Since when did Rafa win the AO twice? Do tell. Don't claim AO is HC, because the tournament organizers themselves dispute this.
 
BeatlesFan said:
Really? Since when did Rafa win the AO twice? Do tell. Don't claim AO is HC, because the tournament organizers themselves dispute this.
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AO high bouncing middle pace hard court event. You can dispute anything you want by the way in your own mind.
 
There is no question. Djokovic is the greatest tennis player to ever hold a racquet. He could literally beat every player in the world 6-0 6-0 consistently. And he will do it for at least the next 3 years. The only possible reason he wouldn't is because the organizers will tell him to pull back a little to keep it close.

If you watch his misses, he calculates them and hits the ball exactly where he's aiming. Each of his losses were carefully calculated and planned. If he wanted to win each of the Grand Slams in straight sets he could, but this would not set well with each event.
 
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mistik said:
Rebound ace hardly used to be a fast surface. Dont act like it was kind of carpet courts or something because of your agenda.
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The point is the surfaces are not the same. If it's the exactly the same thing then it wouldn't make sense for the AO to change from rebound ace to plexiscushion, and the AO is not the same as USO. Is IW the same as Cincinnati? Is blue clay the same as red clay? No way.
 
xFedal said:
Novak just had the most consistent season ever. Now both Fed and Nole share many consistency records.
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Indeed he did, but that's within a single season (Laver did go W-W-W-W though in 1969).
Across their career, and across several seasons (which is what we mean when we talk about "of all time"), Fed's still fairly ahead though.

237 consecutive weeks at #1 will likely never be touched IMO.
Also 18/19 GS finals is stupidly good.
11/16 GS in a four-year period, also incredible.
 
Firstservingman said:
Indeed he did, but that's within a single season (Laver did go W-W-W-W though in 1969).
Across their career, and across several seasons (which is what we mean when we talk about "of all time"), Fed's still fairly ahead though.

237 consecutive weeks at #1 will likely never be touched IMO.
Also 18/19 GS finals is stupidly good.
11/16 GS in a four-year period, also incredible.
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Also Fed has 299 slam match wins, incredible!
 
PeterHo said:
the match winning % is the best indicator of consistency
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Career match winning % is not the best indicator of prime consistency, as it includes time before and after the prime, with the exception of players like Borg who retire in their prime, hence their percentage is higher.

For consistency of a high-level play, it should be worth looking at the excellent work of @eldanger25 about maintaining a 90% win level:

Longest streaks, consecutive

1. Jimmy Connors (7 years, 0 months)
2t. Bjorn Borg (6 years, 1 month)
2t. Roger Federer (6 years, 1 month)
4. Ivan Lendl (6 years, 0 months)
5. Novak Djokovic (5 years, 1 month)
6. John McEnroe (4 years, 8 months)
7. Rafael Nadal (2 years, 4 months)
8. Ivan Lendl (2 years, 2 months)
9. Guillermo Vilas (2 years, 0 months)
10. Rafael Nadal (1 year, 7 months)
11. Boris Becker (1 year, 6 months)
12. Rafael Nadal (1 year, 5 months)
13. Roger Federer (1 year, 1 month)

Longest streaks, cumulative

1. Ivan Lendl (8 years, 2 months) (combined record: 633-70)
2. Roger Federer (7 years, 2 months) (combined record: 530-58)
3. Jimmy Connors (7 years, 0 months) (combined record: 576-64)
4. Bjorn Borg (6 years, 1 month) (combined record: 432-48)
5. Rafael Nadal (5 years, 4 months) (combined record: 374-41)
6. Novak Djokovic (5 years, 1 month) (combined record: 369-41)
7. John McEnroe (4 years, 8 months) (combined record: 361-40)
8. Guillermo Vilas (2 years, 0 months) (combined record: 192-21)
9. Boris Becker (1 year, 6 months) (combined record: 99-11)
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