Djokovic to surpass Nadal in Weeks at #1

[objectivity]

Possibly.
But since 1990 cannot be the case as both have played 160+ matches vs. top-10 for the stats in question, Lendl around 180.

While it seems somewhat low for their careers, didn't Connors play A LOT of 250 equivalent tournaments, presumably with little opposition from top-10'ers?

I'm comparing Stan to the ones with 8-9 slams. You're comparing Djoko at 11 slams with the ones with 14.

Give Wawa another, i.e. at 6. Is he above the ones, currently Lendl, Connors, Agassi and Djoko, with 8-9?

if stan does CYGS and has 6 in total, i will put him above lendl etc.

 

[Nathaniel_Near]

The Connors figure makes especially little sense to me, given the length of his career and the amount of matches he played. Do the stats include WCT tour wins also? It's confusing, because even if we don't typically treat the tour seriously, (or rather it's been ignored and purged from history by the ATP or something) nobody doubts that the WCT Finals were a big deal, to the extent that for a period it was considered to be a tennis major.

http://www.tennisabstract.com/cgi-bin/player.cgi?p=JimmyConnors&f=ACareerqqITop_10qq

This suggests 121 wins for Connors against top-10 opposition. It's possible that the data still isn't complete but that figure makes a lot more sense.

http://www.tennisabstract.com/cgi-bin/player.cgi?p=IvanLendl&f=ACareerqqITop_10qq

143 suggested for Lendl.

http://www.tennisabstract.com/cgi-bin/player.cgi?p=PeteSampras&f=ACareerqqITop_10qq

120 wins for Sampras, which is 4 less than presented in the earlier list.

 

[Chanwan]

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[Chanwan]

The Connors figure makes especially little sense to me, given the length of his career and the amount of matches he played. Do the stats include WCT tour wins also? It's confusing, because even if we don't typically treat the tour seriously, (or rather it's been ignored and purged from history by the ATP or something) nobody doubts that the WCT Finals were a big deal, to the extent that for a period it was considered to be a tennis major.

http://www.tennisabstract.com/cgi-bin/player.cgi?p=JimmyConnors&f=ACareerqqITop_10qq

This suggests 121 wins for Connors against top-10 opposition. It's possible that the data still isn't complete but that figure makes a lot more sense.
http://www.tennisabstract.com/cgi-bi...eerqqITop_10qq

143 suggested for Lendl.

Not sure - but the stats are matched with the numbers, we usually hear, i.e. the 1253 wins: http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Co/J/Jimmy-Connors.aspx?t=mr
121 and 143 sound more realistic though - tennisabstract, the place for stats!

if stan does CYGS and has 6 in total, i will put him above lendl etc.

I wouldn't, but you're consistent

 

[jm1980]

Give Wawa another, i.e. at 6. Is he above the ones, currently Lendl, Connors, Agassi and Djoko, with 8-9?

It depends... If Murray wins the CYGS and ends up with 6, I would put them on the same level as the aforementioned 8 slam winners.

Stan would need better achievements in other areas, since at the moment he has one Masters title, zero weeks at Top 2, etc.

Also remember that if Djokovic wins the CYGS this year (I'd give him 1% chance at the moment), he would have better numbers than Nadal in 3 out of 4 slams.

 

[Chanwan]

It depends... If Murray wins the CYGS and ends up with 6, I would put them on the same level as the aforementioned 8 slam winners.

Stan would need better achievements in other areas, since at the moment he has one Masters title, zero weeks at Top 2, etc.

Also remember that if Djokovic wins the CYGS this year (I'd give him 1% chance at the moment), he would have better numbers than Nadal in 3 out of 4 slams.

Good call with Andy, that's a better comparison, cause Stan would be such an extreme case.

Novak would also have: more weeks at no. 1, close to as many Masters, more YE no. 1, more WTF's, close to an even h2h etc.
Yeah, I can see why some would go for Novak.

But to me, the CYGS is just not so much more impressive than winning 4 slams at random times.
If Fed had won that 2nd set vs. Delpo (or just the 5th), he probably would have had the Fed slam. Would that really have changed that much with regards to how he's perceived - apart from him being at 18?

 

[Cortana]

If Djokovic doesn't get injured and keeps that level up for quite some time, he might even surpass Federer. 200 weeks shouldn't be a problem at all, even 250 are very likely.

 

[Noleberic123]

It obviously won't happen but even if Nole did achieve the CYGS I'm not sure I'd place him above Nadal. I think he'd need to get to at least 12 slams(provided Nadal stays on 14) to have a good argument taking into account he'd also have more WTFs, weeks at #1 and YE#1.

If djokovic has any chance to win CYGS in any year for the rest of his career. this year is probably it