Djokovic will have a Ruud awakening

RoS

Semi-Pro
I sense Djokovic will lose to Ruud again at the QF

Ruud finally broke the curse against Djokovic at Monte-Carlo. He will play with more confidence. Ruud is in form.

Djokovic will have a hard time to hit through Ruud defense like against Musetti and Ruud has a heavier FH and a better serve. If Djokovic is forced to play another tough 4-5 setter, he will lose this time as I can't see him recover at 37 y.o. He must beat Ruud in 3 sets like he did las year.

Still a chance that Ruud doesn't show up but I don't think so. He is not afraid of Djokovic anymore. Ruud at the FO is always another player. He made 2 consecutive finals here, just lost to the two GOATS
 

SpinToWin

Talk Tennis Guru
Certainly possible. Depends on what form they bring on the day and how well Djokovic can recover with his next match. The late finish and long match against Musetti certainly didnt do him any favours at 37.

Is this a genuine take or one of the jinx brand though?
 

Nostradamus

Bionic Poster
I sense Djokovic will lose to Ruud again at the QF

Ruud finally broke the curse against Djokovic at Monte-Carlo. He will play with more confidence. Ruud is in form.

Djokovic will have a hard time to hit through Ruud defense like against Musetti and Ruud has a heavier FH and a better serve. If Djokovic is forced to play another tough 4-5 setter, he will lose this time as I can't see him recover at 37 y.o. He must beat Ruud in 3 sets like he did las year.

Still a chance that Ruud doesn't show up but I don't think so. He is not afraid of Djokovic anymore. Ruud at the FO is always another player. He made 2 consecutive finals here, just lost to the two GOATS
if it was Ruud playing yesterday, he would have won in 4 sets for sure
 
I think this will happen if Djokovic goes long against cerundolo. As Ruud is a nightmare player to face if you drained of some energy or bit depleted. I think Djokovic will lose to Ruud in the quarters
 
Last edited:

BeatlesFan

Bionic Poster
I think Djokovic will lose to Ruud in the quarters
Wow... you're one of the most reasonable and least partisan Djokovic fans on TTW, I am surprised you think Casper has a chance in B05. He's a known, infamous choker and his victory over Novak in MC is a lot different than beating him in a slam. I think that would be a major upset, even though Novak's 37, but we'll see if it happens.
 
Wow... you're one of the most reasonable and least partisan Djokovic fans on TTW, I am surprised you think Casper has a chance in B05. He's a known, infamous choker and his victory over Novak in MC is a lot different than beating him in a slam. I think that would be a major upset, even though Novak's 37, but we'll see if it happens.
I do think that Novak would probably be favourite. However, I have a lot of respect for Ruud on a clay court. The fact this isn’t a final would help ruud too. I’m just going under the assumption Djokovic is pushed again by cerundolo. If that’s the case, ruud is a solid clay player and very fit. He could outlast Djokovic if Novak is a bit off or feeling it physically a bit. I think it would be close. Ruud did get a win over Djokovic this year which will help him too. If Ruud beats Djokovic on a surface then clay is the one. It less likely on grass or hard courts.

Djokovic needs to win his match tomorrow quicker in my view. I agree that ruud could choke it though as he has a habit of doing that in big games. We will see what happens.
 
Last edited:

Razer

G.O.A.T.
Wow... you're one of the most reasonable and least partisan Djokovic fans on TTW, I am surprised you think Casper has a chance in B05. He's a known, infamous choker and his victory over Novak in MC is a lot different than beating him in a slam. I think that would be a major upset, even though Novak's 37, but we'll see if it happens.

He is not as reasonable as he wants to portray....

He is an anti jinxer who thinks he underrating Novak cosmically helps in Novak's favor by luck, something superstition like that....

Only a naive person would think a weak submissive guy with smile on his face like Ruud has any chance to beat Djokovic who will enter the QF by playing himself into form..
 

Razer

G.O.A.T.
I said it before the tournament ... I will say it again.

Only Alcaraz and to some extent Sinner can stop Djokovic....no one else
 

Razer

G.O.A.T.

I think Novak will beat him unless Zverev plays light out and blows him away in 3-4 sets....will that happen? ..I donno ..this is Djokovic we are talking about, he is too strong to go away like that in semis

If it goes 5 then I don't trust Zverev...so I want him to win in straights or just lose.
 

ND-13

Legend
Lightning struck already once this year.. don't expect it to happen. Either straights or at the most 4 sets.
 

Razer

G.O.A.T.
Zverev's chance would have been better if he was facing Alcaraz and Sinner was facing Djokovic....but reverse of that does not do him much good.
 

Rudiiii

Semi-Pro
I think Novak will beat him unless Zverev plays light out and blows him away in 3-4 sets....will that happen? ..I donno ..this is Djokovic we are talking about, he is too strong to go away like that in semis

If it goes 5 then I don't trust Zverev...so I want him to win in straights or just lose.
Same story with Musseti, Medvedev and to some extent Sinner. If match goes to five, Alcaraz is there to slay, and in that case I think it would be 50-50. With Sinner I woud say 65-34 in Novak's favor. Rest have like 0% chance. For them to beat Novak, they have to play their best tennis for 3 straight sets, and don't let him dictate rhythm, something Muzz yesterday learned the hard way
 

Razer

G.O.A.T.
Same story with Musseti, Medvedev and to some extent Sinner. If match goes to five, Alcaraz is there to slay, and in that case I think it would be 50-50. With Sinner I woud say 65-34 in Novak's favor. Rest have like 0% chance. For them to beat Novak, they have to play their best tennis for 3 straight sets, and don't let him dictate rhythm, something Muzz yesterday learned the hard way

Yeah......except Alcaraz nobody has the balls to go 5 with Novak and emerge victorious.

You either kill him in 3-4 or die in the 5th set against him....Zverev winning in 5 is a very unlikely event.
 

Pheasant

Legend
Djoker is the defending champion and should be favored to win the title. Those tune up best of 3 events are simply practice for him. Now that the big boy best of 5 tourney is back on, Djoker will fight to the death. Best of 5 is a war of attrition. Best of 3 is a cute tune up for Djoker.
 

Subway Tennis

G.O.A.T.
I think he will on a surface like this. On HC/grass Ruud has big trouble with players like Fritz.

I think the Ruud favouritism here is even more clear cut than that.

He beat Fritz the last time they played, and that was in Ruud’s least favourite conditions. Dead, low bouncing indoor hardcourt.

Additional to that is the fact that Ruud always plays to seed at RG. The only time he has lost to a lower ranked player was the 5 set epic against ADF a few years ago.
 

socallefty

G.O.A.T.
I wouldn’t be surprised if one of them doesn’t make it to this matchup. If they both do, the odds should be almost even with Djokovic slightly favored. I think it will be a heckuva match and I‘ll be rooting for the bigger FH - last year it was Djokovic but will it be the same this year?
 

Midaso240

Legend
I agree OP, I have Ruud as well if they both make it. I like his level slightly better, no idea why so many on here suddenly think Djokovic is winning the title after that match against Musetti
 

socallefty

G.O.A.T.
I agree OP, I have Ruud as well if they both make it. I like his level slightly better, no idea why so many on here suddenly think Djokovic is winning the title after that match against Musetti
Probably because he played the last two sets so aggressively like his 2023 version. Will we get that version in a potential match with Ruud or the guy who has been sleepwalking through 2024 so far? The match will be on Djokovic’s racquet and we will see which guy shows up.
 
Last edited:

Rafa4LifeEver

G.O.A.T.
For all those talking about physicality and how Ruud could make it a grindfest; please try to understand that physicality won't come into play at all if Djokovic just simply destroys Ruud with the quality of his hitting like he did against Musetti in last 2 sets or against Ruud himself in the 2023 Final.

This matchup is poised against the Norwegian for a very simple reason, and it is that his extremely loopy backhand jumps right into the striking zone of Djokovic off both wings, and the Serb tears it apart; on the FH wing, he doesn't hit THAT big with THAT much angles for him to trouble an elite mover like Djokovic. In addition, Djokovic can jump off his first and second serves easily to rush him.

The Monte Carlo match doesn't hold any water whatsoever for the potential slam clash at RG.

@Djokovic_is_the_best#1 @DSH

Goodnight now
 

NAS

Hall of Fame
For all those talking about physicality and how Ruud could make it a grindfest; please try to understand that physicality won't come into play at all if Djokovic just simply destroys Ruud with the quality of his hitting like he did against Musetti in last 2 sets or against Ruud himself in the 2023 Final.

This matchup is poised against the Norwegian for a very simple reason, and it is that his extremely loopy backhand jumps right into the striking zone of Djokovic off both wings, and the Serb tears it apart; on the FH wing, he doesn't hit THAT big with THAT much angles for him to trouble an elite mover like Djokovic. In addition, Djokovic can jump off his first and second serves easily to rush him.

The Monte Carlo match doesn't hold any water whatsoever for the potential slam clash at RG.

@Djokovic_is_the_best#1 @DSH

Goodnight now
Correct point, I don't know how much Djokovic is ready but if Djokovc is in form that BH from Ruud will be his kryptonite.
Djokovic will keep on striking on casper BH side.
But of course all depends upon how much Djokovic is in and can he win today? Or if he win, can he loose less energy
 

NAS

Hall of Fame
His BH is reason he can't win against Rafa, Novak or Carlos, people think he is mental mug but his BH problem against elite mover and striker is huge.
 

SpinToWin

Talk Tennis Guru
I find the simultaneous underselling of both Ruud and Djokovic rather amusing. It’s not an easy match in either direction. A lot will depend on the form of the day, but both of their levels has fluctuated this year (especially Djokovic’s, let’s be honest).
 

Lauren_Girl'

Hall of Fame
I sense Djokovic will lose to Ruud again at the QF

Ruud finally broke the curse against Djokovic at Monte-Carlo. He will play with more confidence. Ruud is in form.

Djokovic will have a hard time to hit through Ruud defense like against Musetti and Ruud has a heavier FH and a better serve. If Djokovic is forced to play another tough 4-5 setter, he will lose this time as I can't see him recover at 37 y.o. He must beat Ruud in 3 sets like he did las year.

Still a chance that Ruud doesn't show up but I don't think so. He is not afraid of Djokovic anymore. Ruud at the FO is always another player. He made 2 consecutive finals here, just lost to the two GOATS


It's quite possible. But Djokovic won more points than Ruud in Monte-Carlo. He had better stats everywhere. More winners, less UE. Ruud only made the difference in the very last game, thanks to a DF. It was a very close match. Djokovic was a double-break down in the 1st set and played a terrible last game but he seemed like the better player for the biggest part of this match. As we know, Djokovic is a better player in RG compared to MC.

Ruud has a chance but so does Cerundolo and everyone else. It's a very open French Open. Everyone has a chance to win. I don't give Djokovic more or less chances.
 

SonnyT

Legend
Djokovic has always been spared in the sets that he lost, even at RG. He just went 5 with Musetti. He goes 5 at the worst time when he needs the rest, at advancing age.
 

Mainad

Bionic Poster
I mean yeah, he was a tough match wasn't he? You think Djokovic planned/wanted to be playing until 3am in the 3rd round?

Well, he was tough for the first 3 sets because he is essentially a Bo3 player. Cerundolo is probably the same.
 

Midaso240

Legend
Well, he was tough for the first 3 sets because he is essentially a Bo3 player. Cerundolo is probably the same.
He may well win in 5 here against Cerundolo but he'll be ripe for the picking against Ruud should that be the quarter, because Ruud is experienced enough now in b05 clay court tennis and knows how to take advantage of the fatigue Djokovic will be feeling. The best case scenario for Djokovic is Fritz comes through, because Djokovic wouldn't lose to that guy even with a hand tied behind his back
 
Top