Djokovic will play US Open!!!

pabletion

Hall of Fame
CDC just changed conditions, and says non vax people are to be now treated the same as vaxed ppl!

It Will be up to the Tournament wether to allow him to play or not. Of course theyll allow him!!!!
More to come........
 
I wished it was true, but nothing certain for now, huh. It's just a rumor. His hope have increased a bit yesterday with this announcment, but the trend is still negative.
 
Sadly this but feel he will let in everywhere next season. :) I don't think he would win even if he does play. Season has 2014 vibes. Looking forward to a big next season.
Yeah we can hope for a better 2023. Although novak still has to overturn the 3 year ban in Australia which won’t be straight forward. He has a chance though as they dropped the mandate but he still has to appeal and win a court case to try enter country.
 

NeutralFan

Legend
Yeah we can hope for a better 2023. Although novak still has to overturn the 3 year ban in Australia which won’t be straight forward. He has a chance though as they dropped the mandate but he still has to appeal and win a court case to try enter country.
Imo, 3 overturning 3 years ban won't be a problem but i don't see AU government doing away with Va-x mandate next year.
 

roysid

Hall of Fame
CDC just changed conditions, and says non vax people are to be now treated the same as vaxed ppl!

It Will be up to the Tournament wether to allow him to play or not. Of course theyll allow him!!!!
More to come........
Its citizens vs non citizens. Non citizens cannot enter US if unvaccinated.

Cdc recommendation is for us citizens i believe
 

clayqueen

Talk Tennis Guru
Yeah we can hope for a better 2023. Although novak still has to overturn the 3 year ban in Australia which won’t be straight forward. He has a chance though as they dropped the mandate but he still has to appeal and win a court case to try enter country.
Under Australian law, the three-year travel ban can be lifted on compassionate grounds and for compelling reasons that would affect Australia's national interest. This means Djokovic could be calling on the services of his legal team again before the Australian Open next year. 17 Jan 2022

Novak Djokovic has been offered an olive branch by the Australian prime minister Scott Morrison, who said a ban on him returning to the country may be lifted in the “right circumstances”.

Karen Andrews, the home affairs minister, had earlier confirmed that the unvaccinated tennis star’s deportation order disqualified him from entering Australia for up to three years.


Scott Morrison is no longer in power and it wouldn't be the decision of the incumbent PM. There must be a process to go through in order to lift an entry ban.
 
Under Australian law, the three-year travel ban can be lifted on compassionate grounds and for compelling reasons that would affect Australia's national interest. This means Djokovic could be calling on the services of his legal team again before the Australian Open next year. 17 Jan 2022

Novak Djokovic has been offered an olive branch by the Australian prime minister Scott Morrison, who said a ban on him returning to the country may be lifted in the “right circumstances”.

Karen Andrews, the home affairs minister, had earlier confirmed that the unvaccinated tennis star’s deportation order disqualified him from entering Australia for up to three years.


Scott Morrison is no longer in power and it wouldn't be the decision of the incumbent PM. There must be a process to go through in order to lift an entry ban.
Yeah that’s true. Thanks for the information. Under the old government he defo wouldn’t get in. Novak has more chance with new government and vaccine mandate currently dropped. However, depends on the situation by then and the process involved.

We will see what happens but nothing is set in stone either way at this point.
 

irishnadalfan1983

Hall of Fame
Yeah that’s true. Thanks for the information. Under the old government he defo wouldn’t get in. Novak has more chance with new government and vaccine mandate currently dropped. However, depends on the situation by then and the process involved.

We will see what happens but nothing is set in stone either way at this point.
Damn - looks like more drama on they way so….It is quite the story and unfortunately doesn’t look like ending soon….Personally I’d rather he was playing US and Australia…
 

D.Nalby12

G.O.A.T.
I want Nadal vs Djokovic at USO and settle "2-1 bud" debate once for all. In my opinion Nadal is overachiever at USO and Djokovic will put him down to his place if they meet.
 

clayqueen

Talk Tennis Guru
I want Nadal vs Djokovic at USO and settle "2-1 bud" debate once for all. In my opinion Nadal is overachiever at USO and Djokovic will put him down to his place if they meet.
You will find another meeting will result in 3:1 to Nadal. Do you want them to have a rematch at the OG?
 

clayqueen

Talk Tennis Guru
Yeah that’s true. Thanks for the information. Under the old government he defo wouldn’t get in. Novak has more chance with new government and vaccine mandate currently dropped. However, depends on the situation by then and the process involved.

We will see what happens but nothing is set in stone either way at this point.
The 3 year travel ban to Australia is not to do with being vaccinated or not it’s a consequence of being deported.
 

Bartelby

Bionic Poster
The ban is more of a possibility than a fact. It depends on what the new Minister decides when he next applies. I am confident that he will play next year.

The 3 year travel ban to Australia is not to do with being vaccinated or not it’s a consequence of being deported.
 

Sudacafan

Bionic Poster
Under Australian law, the three-year travel ban can be lifted on compassionate grounds and for compelling reasons that would affect Australia's national interest. This means Djokovic could be calling on the services of his legal team again before the Australian Open next year. 17 Jan 2022

Novak Djokovic has been offered an olive branch by the Australian prime minister Scott Morrison, who said a ban on him returning to the country may be lifted in the “right circumstances”.
The Australian Government will surely overturn Djokovic‘s 3 years ban on compassionate grounds if he shows he has learned his lesson by taking the vaxx.
 

Bartelby

Bionic Poster
You don't need to vaccinate to come to Australia as of the 6th of July so they are scarcely likely to stop him entering.

And there is no ban per se so none needs to be overturned. The situation at every conceivable level has changed for the better for Djokovic.

The Australian Government will surely overturn Djokovic‘s 3 years ban on compassionate grounds if he shows he has learned his lesson by taking the vaxx.
 

Sudacafan

Bionic Poster
You don't need to vaccinate to come to Australia as of the 6th of July so they are scarcely likely to stop him entering by enacting a ban which is strictly discretionary.
What I say will be just as discretionary as the 3 year ban: only for Djokovic.
 

Adv. Edberg

Legend
You don't need to vaccinate to come to Australia as of the 6th of July so they are scarcely likely to stop him entering. And there is no ban per se, and won't be one.
he is banned for 3 years for sure, but they'll give him special treatment of course. He'll win AO2023 for sure, just like he'll win USO2022
 

Bartelby

Bionic Poster
The ban is at the discretion of the Minister of the day, and the current Minister will not enact one for reasons given in post #31.
 

vex

Legend
Imagine if Djokovic tries to enter the US like he did in AUS… oh the deportation drama!

This huge shipment crate arrives at the NYC docks. Customs opens it up and it’s a giant hyperbaric EGG… sticker slapped on the side “Don’t open, Djokovic totally not inside”
 
Nadal would destroy Djokovic at USO. Djokovic has zero chance there against Nadal.
Nadal would be the slight favourite if they meet. He has the better us open record and H2H but still think it would be an epic clash if it happened. Djokodal matches usually deliver. Sadly we won’t see it this year as Novak still don’t think will be playing.
 
I want Nadal vs Djokovic at USO and settle "2-1 bud" debate once for all. In my opinion Nadal is overachiever at USO and Djokovic will put him down to his place if they meet.
I personally think Rafa would have the slight edge. With djokodal matches anything can happen though. Still like to see it happen one last time though. Sadly won’t be the case this year.
 

Rina

Hall of Fame
You never know with bureaucracy; that is the thing. Actions are taken slowly. Biden might change them faster as many politicians use Novak as a political weapon; nothing is new there. Politicians love using anything they can to promote themselves.
 

Federev

Legend
Nadal would destroy Djokovic at USO. Djokovic has zero chance there against Nadal.
???

“zero chance”?

Have you seen Rafa’s record against Novak off clay over the last decade?

Do you actually know when the last time he won a set off of him was?

Zero chance?

Lol.
 
Djokovic is currently banned for 3 years from entering Australia because of his deportation.

Only way the ban can be overturned is if his team can provide compelling reasons as to why not lifting the ban would affect Australia's national interest...

Thing is, by then he will be ranked well outside the top 10, maybe like no.15 or something. So unlike 2022, he can't claim that Aus would be missing out on the no.1 player or even top 5 player. However, he could argue that he is the record holder for slams won in Australia, so him not playing is a loss for the Australian public, etc.

So he could definitely make a case but it's really 50-50, because normally these bans aren't overturned! And the Australian public would demand that no special treatment is given to him and that he is treated like any other person. So it's going to be quite tricky.
 
???

“zero chance”?

Have you seen Rafa’s record against Novak off clay over the last decade?

Do you actually know when the last time he won a set off of him was?

Zero chance?

Lol.
You may review their grand slam h2h.

Also Nadal has 4 USOs.

Also USO 2010.

Also USO 2013.

Also Djokovic is the one chickening out not taking the jab and putting it as an excuse because he knows he would be destroyed as he was in RG.

Cope harder
 

Bartelby

Bionic Poster
This is not the legal situation. Whether or not he is banned depends solely on the personal discretion of the Minister of the day. And the old one is long gone.

There is no "national interest" test. The Minister has complete personal discretion to decide on any grounds. For reasons given in post #31 he will be allowed to play.

Djokovic is currently banned for 3 years from entering Australia because of his deportation.

Only way the ban can be overturned is if his team can provide compelling reasons as to why not lifting the ban would affect Australia's national interest...

Thing is, by then he will be ranked well outside the top 10, maybe like no.15 or something. So unlike 2022, he can't claim that Aus would be missing out on the no.1 player or even top 5 player. However, he could argue that he is the record holder for slams won in Australia, so him not playing is a loss for the Australian public, etc.

So he could definitely make a case but it's really 50-50, because normally these bans aren't overturned! And the Australian public would demand that no special treatment is given to him and that he is treated like any other person. So it's going to be quite tricky.
 
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You may review their grand slam h2h.

Also Nadal has 4 USOs.

Also USO 2010.

Also USO 2013.

Also Djokovic is the one chickening out not taking the jab and putting it as an excuse because he knows he would be destroyed as he was in RG.

Cope harder
Destroyed in RG? 7-6 in the 4th set with a 5-2 lead and multiple set points in the 4th, knowing he would have been favorite in a 5th set? What a massive destruction lol.
That's the main difference. Nadal rarely destructs Djokovic on clay if you look at the recent confrontations. Djokovic often wins a set and he beats him once i a while. You know, like in Rome last year when Djokovic breadsticked him?
Djokovic always destroys Nadal on hard courts in the last decade, on the other hand. 19 sets won. 0 set lost.

USO 2013 is soooo long forgotten. Since that match, Djokovic proved he is the GOAT on hard courts and grass. Over and over again.
 
Destroyed in RG? 7-6 in the 4th set with a 5-2 lead and multiple set points in the 4th, knowing he would have been favorite in a 5th set? What a massive destruction lol.
That's the main difference. Nadal rarely destructs Djokovic on clay if you look at the recent confrontations. Djokovic often wins a set and he beats him once i a while. You know, like in Rome last year when Djokovic breadsticked him?
Djokovic always destroys Nadal on hard courts in the last decade, on the other hand. 19 sets won. 0 set lost.

USO 2013 is soooo long forgotten. Since that match, Djokovic proved he is the GOAT on hard courts and grass. Over and over again.
Oh you surely missed that lovely bagel Nadal served Djokovic in 2020??

It was so, so lovely.
 

Federev

Legend
You may review their grand slam h2h.

Also Nadal has 4 USOs.

Also USO 2010.

Also USO 2013.

Also Djokovic is the one chickening out not taking the jab and putting it as an excuse because he knows he would be destroyed as he was in RG.

Cope harder
Cope?

Anyone who says either Rafa or Novak has a ZERO chance against the other in any match is coping for something.

I’m no Novak fan, he’s my least favorite of the big 3, but calling him a coward when he’s met Rafa on RG anytime he can - and even won a couple …i guess that’s more coping?
 
Some posters might want to review the Nadal Djokovic US Opwn h2h. Plus their slam finals h2h, too.
:giggle:
Let Djokodal play 8 more times in AO and 8 more times in Wimbledon. 2 slams Djokovic massively dominates.
Only then their slam h2h will be significant.

9 of their 16 completed matches in GS were in Nadal's pet slam.

Djokovic wins 2-0 in AO and 2-0 in Wimbledon in completed matchs.
What would be the H2h if they had 10 matchs in AO and Wimbledon? 9-1 if Nadal has any luck on his side.

It isn't DJokovic's fault if Nadal systematically implodes in Australia and Wimbledon before he can play Djokovic.
What do you think would've happened if Nadal didn't lose to Thiem and Tsitsipas in AO 2020 and 2021?
Or if he played the final in Wimbledon 2019 or 2021? Nadal couldn't even beat Djokovic playing his C game in Wimbledon 2018. lol

Thats the main difference. Djokovic rarely loses against anyone but Nadal in RG. That's why they've had so many matches in Paris.
Nadal usually screws up in AO and Wimbledon and Djokovic only has to beat the player who beat Nadal earlier in the tournament.
 
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Oh you surely missed that lovely bagel Nadal served Djokovic in 2020??

It was so, so lovely.
Not as lovely as the AO final, lol. At least Djokovic lost a set 7-5 and broke Nadal's serve once.
Nadal couldn't even win 4 games in a set in that AO final. And didn't have a single break point in 3 sets.

If you look at Nadal and Djokovic's scores on clay since 2011, you will see that Nadal RARELY destroys Djokovic. Monte Carlo 2012, RG 2020 and maybe Madrid 2017 are the only counter examples.
Whereas Djokovic SYSTEMATICALLY obliterates Nadal on hard courts since that USO final.
A lot of 6-3 6-3 and 6-3 6-4, with a 6-1 6-2 in the middle. 19 sets to 0. Now that's what I call DESTROYING

Djokovic also destroyed a non-injured Nadal 7-5 6-3 6-2 in Nadal's pet slam.
Wake me up when Nadal straignt-sets Djokovic in AO or Wimbledon.
 
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