Indigo
Professional
His coach Wajda, told today that they are going for the GS record. So, there's no doubt he will be motivated once again. By snatching USO and AO he's made a massive step in tying Nadal and then he has open road to rush to 20 and beyond and finish it off quickly before retiring. He has to do it quickly considering his age.
uscwang
Hall of Fame
You do know grass is not Novak's best surface, don't you?
uscwang
Hall of Fame
We'll see a lot of records broken in the next few years.
uscwang
Hall of Fame
I see a Novak-Nadal final already. RBA has pretty much reached his ceiling. Thiem is not consistent enough.
Luka888
Professional
Keep dreaming bud regarding youngsters
. I dream too but it sucks. Youngsters might surprise again but NOT the way we want too. Watch them drop out in a few first rounds again and again 
. One might make it to the QF 
. I'm joking but I seriously lost my hope for them 
WhiskeyEE
G.O.A.T.
Keep dreaming bud regarding youngsters
I think from here on out the young guys will be more competitive. This USO is the first slam I give the young gen a realistic chance of winning. They nearly beat Nadal there last year. I do expect at least one of them to do well. Not a dream at all, just a prediction.
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Deleted member 762343
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Thanks for the info, I’ve never noticed that.
Djokodal Fan
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with the USOpen courts as slow as molasses, I fancy Thiem to make deep inroads. He even bageled Nadal last time and Nadal had to finish him off in 3 very tight sets.
So yeah Thiem has a very good chances considering he is young and will be up for the task. If djoker has to face him in his draw, that will very likely end his run.
So yeah Thiem has a very good chances considering he is young and will be up for the task. If djoker has to face him in his draw, that will very likely end his run.
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Where were you in 2014 ?
King No1e
G.O.A.T.
Nadal won AO and not RG in 2009. Doesn't make him more favored at AO than RG.
Djokodalerer31
Hall of Fame
10 out of 15...perfect 7 at AO and lopsided 3 at USO (lost more finals, than he won, totally should have beaten Murray in that 2012 final and Nadal either in 2010 or in 2013, kinda layed an egg there! Wawrinka deserved his win over Djokovic though as he played fantastic, whilst Djokovic has already been in the beginning phases of his famous career "slump")
Im(moral) Winner
G.O.A.T.
But Novak has been more successful at Wimbledon than at the USO
Cortana
Legend
So why is he better on HC again?
There are 2 HC GS tournaments and 1 grass, so taking that into account Djokovic is clearly better on grass than HC?
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Your point was that Djoko can’t lose on HC if he wins on grass. 2014 disproves this claim.
King No1e
G.O.A.T.
That was not my point. My point was that if he's already won Wimbledon on grass, he should be favored to win USO on hard.
Djokodalerer31
Hall of Fame
Because of his 55 hard court titles? because of his 24 hard court masters titles? because of 5 YEC titles won on hard courts? And that is on top of those 10 hard court grand slams! LOL 55 titles out of 75 won on hard courts against just 6 on grass...i dunno...to me the pattern is pretty damn clear...LMAO
Enceladus
Legend
On the other hand, whenever Djoker won AO and Wimbledon in a season, he also added US Open to them:
2011
2015
2019
Cortana
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Deleted member 762343
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Okay. Who said otherwise ?
Djokodalerer31
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It doesn't matter how many events there are on grass, what matters is percentage ratio and surface distribution of player and that what decides what is his best surface! LOL These days many top players ignore grass warm-up tournaments to be mentally and physically ready for the Wimbledon...
He will be the overwhelming favourite to win any slams he enters for the next 2 years at the very least with the exception of FO.Also he never really gets injured and his decline is really slow if at all.He has good 5 years in him with no real competition outside clay.If he can't win at least 6 slams in these 5 years he will really underachieve.
DSH
Talk Tennis Guru
TennisDawg
Hall of Fame
He needs to win them with the next couple of years since he’s now 32. Winning gets harder past 35.
helterskelter
G.O.A.T.
You are right on both counts: he is the favorite AND he is unlikely to win. In a 128-player competition, the favorite is usually unlikely to win. The bookmakers currently have him at about 5/4, which makes him a pretty firm favorite but not more likely than the entirety of the field. Probably gives him about a 40% chance.
I always favour Nadal at USO..its not by chance in 3 finals he is 2-1 v Djokovic.
However i think Thiem will be a threat there. Courts suit him
Nadal arguably played best tennis past two years at USO and Thiem took him to the wire last year.
Thiem a definite massive threat there along with Nadal and Djokovic
Phoenix1983
G.O.A.T.
Disagree with the thread title.
Djokovic is a strong favourite to complete another 3-slam season this year.
Djokovic is a strong favourite to complete another 3-slam season this year.
helterskelter
G.O.A.T.
@Imperator On this note, I just read these words of Nate Silver on the US Democratic primary, which he wrote a week ago:
"It’s worth keeping in mind that in a field of 20-something candidates with no runaway frontrunner, all of the candidates are fairly heavy underdogs. Joe Biden is probably going to lose. Kamala Harris is probably going to lose. Elizabeth Warren is probably going to lose. Bernie Sanders is probably going to lose. And so forth." To which I adapt:
"It's worth keeping in mind that in a field of 128 candidates with no runaway frontrunner [and even arguably then], all of the candidates are fairly heavy underdogs. Novak Djokovic is probably going to lose. Rafael Nadal is probably going to lose. Roger Federer is probably going to lose."
That said, I see that the bookmakers already have Nadal as in with around a 50% chance at Roland Garros 2020. He's just so dominant there that the usual rules don't apply - he is a runaway frontrunner.
helterskelter
G.O.A.T.
Strong favorite - yes.
Odds on favorite - probably not. Bookmakers think not.
His chances are about 40%. Way higher than anyone else. But lower than everyone else combined. So, he's likely to lose, just less unlikely than is anyone else.
Nadal at FO is just insane and not subject to normal rules.
Federer is insane on grass...thats what makes yesterday sting for his fans and i do sympathise...just not with the Royal Box or John Bercow!!!
DSH
Talk Tennis Guru
Federer without Djokovic, is very close to the level of Nadal's dominance in their preferred surface.
The Swiss would have 11 Wimbledon titles, only 10 defeats there, and he would have won 5! Wimbledon titles being over 30 years old (the same as the legendary Borg).
Federer has 13 semifinals there, Nadal has 12 semifinals in RG.
Both have 12 finals in their favorite Major (all-time record in male tennis players)
Federer has 5! Wimbledon finals being more than 30 years old (the same as McEnroe and Nadal in their career).
Nadal has 3 consecutive titles in RG being over 30 years old (the third largest domain in the open era of that tournament only surpassed byhimself twice and the great Borg).
The Serbian has inflicted a lot of damage on Federer, without any doubt.
But thats exactly why Federer st wimbledon is nowhere near Nadal at Roland Gorras. Nadal doesnt have a Djokovic or whoever at the french open who beats him in the final, he has not a single rival there and never had.
Saying that i think that dominating at wimbledon is much harder than dominating at the french open
Sudacafan
Bionic Poster
This title thread would never get my attention unless it is written by Sureshs.Yes, it seems a bit silly to make such a statement so early but that’s my feeling. Before the start of 2019, I predicted 2 GS wins for Djoko : AO and Wimby. I never had the feeling he would get USO and last events reinforced my opinion.
First of all, the younger players are clearly harder to deal with on HC than on grass or clay. And Djokovic’s level dropped after AO, I don’t know if it’s because he’s 32 but he hasn’t had the same explosiveness ever since the AO. The field will be hungrier than ever, it will be difficult to make it to the final and I feel like someone will pull an upset.
If Djokovic does win, obviously I’ll be glad and I will happily bump this thread to mock myself (unless someone does it before me).
DSH
Talk Tennis Guru
No, the problem for Federer is that he is almost 6 years older than Djokovic, while Nadal is one year older than Nole.
If the Swiss were only a couple of years older than the Serbian, I ask you, what do you think the result would be in the 2014, 2015 and 2019 finals?
BeatlesFan
Bionic Poster
What young player could seriously challenge Novak at the USO, unless he's injured or seriously ill? I think he could have pneumonia and he'd still beat Tsitsipas, FAA, Shapo, Zverev, Thiem or any of the other young guys. Whoever is winning the USO will come from a pool of three names: Novak, Fed or Nadal.
Is the USO the slowest of the non-clay slams? AO was slow again this year after 2 years being faster. It is between the USO and AO for the slowest non-clay slam. Given that, it will provide challenges for Federer. I am hopeful though.
MugOpponent
Hall of Fame
Naomi Osaka as well. I bet her after IW and got her at 35/1. Thiem has a real shot at the USO and I couldn't resist 30/1.
titoelcolombiano
Legend
Djoker is a heavy favourite for the US Open with Federer and Nadal his only challengers as usual. Nadal will be more of a challenge at the US Open than at Wimbledon.
Rabe87
Professional
Were you at the AO? It was fast, in fact very fast. Craig Tiley had to come up with a bs excuse as to why it was so slick.
Rabe87
Professional
Rabe87
Professional
I agree, he's the HC and grass GOAT now.
Rabe87
Professional
Disagree, I think although he didn't play well in the final against Fed, he's had very few losses on grass in his career. Plus he's won more matches at Wimby than at any other Slam (this surprised me).
Rabe87
Professional
For berating Djok and his family for years when Nole was just a pup? For the arrogance displayed when he bested Djok before Nole became superhuman? He doesn't deserve another Slam, Novak won't allow him to get another.
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