Djokovic's 'cold' congratulations to Sinner

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Djokovic showed all the love and affection for Zverev (which is fine) but such a 'cold' congratulations for Sinner.
Almost a dismissive tone.



A decent way to congratulate is to praise the winner first and followed by a consolation message for the runner up.
 
He tried to rattle Sinner by siding with Kyrgios who was attacking Sinner continuously. Its obvious it was a ploy to derail Sinner before AO.

That didn't work out and he realizes Sinner is the biggest threat for him. So competitive juices in full flow or he doesn't like Sinner
 
Yet he warmed up to Kyrgios who’s targeted and sl*t shamed women, pled guilty to assaulting women, harassed and bullied Sinner on social media, been violent on court and more?

That was an even worse look.
Maybe you have a point. But sinner is all 'someone elses' fault. Nick has owned up to a degree on behaviour which isnt as recent. Going after sinner isnt bullying as much as overindulging his freedom of speech. Im amazed jannick didnt block him sooner unless he used it as motivation in.. the ..ahem..gym.
 
Yet he warmed up to Kyrgios who’s targeted and sl*t shamed women, pled guilty to assaulting women, harassed and bullied Sinner on social media, been violent on court and more?

That was an even worse look.

Naomi Osaka admires Kyrgios. So will you bash Naomi for it lol?


Although the International Tennis Integrity Agency cleared Sinner of any wrongdoing and opted not to suspend him after he tested positive for the banned substance Clostebol, Kyrgios believes the world No 1’s “performance was enhanced” and he should have been banned for a minimum of two years.

But while many believe Kyrgios often oversteps the line, Osaka says that is one of the reasons why she admires the Australian as he is “unapologetic about who he is”.

Four-time Grand Slam winner Osaka has teamed up with Kyrgios through her Evolve Sports Management agency while she has appeared on the Good Trouble with Nick Kyrgios podcast with the show sponsored by her company Hanakuma.

Naomi Osaka says she is a big admirer of not letting outside noise drown out your own views.

“Nick is a dynamic person both on and off the court,” she told Harper’s BAZAAR. “I am really drawn to people who are unapologetic about who they are and aren’t afraid to show all aspects of themselves.

“I also think there is a side to Nick few people see, but I can say he has a very big heart and, for him, giving back is really important, and that is a quality I admire about him.

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But if Sinner is about to be banned for a year or two as expected, I don't think congratulating him is a good look :unsure:
 
Naomi Osaka admires Kyrgios. So will you bash Naomi for it lol?


Although the International Tennis Integrity Agency cleared Sinner of any wrongdoing and opted not to suspend him after he tested positive for the banned substance Clostebol, Kyrgios believes the world No 1’s “performance was enhanced” and he should have been banned for a minimum of two years.

But while many believe Kyrgios often oversteps the line, Osaka says that is one of the reasons why she admires the Australian as he is “unapologetic about who he is”.

Four-time Grand Slam winner Osaka has teamed up with Kyrgios through her Evolve Sports Management agency while she has appeared on the Good Trouble with Nick Kyrgios podcast with the show sponsored by her company Hanakuma.

Naomi Osaka says she is a big admirer of not letting outside noise drown out your own views.

“Nick is a dynamic person both on and off the court,” she told Harper’s BAZAAR. “I am really drawn to people who are unapologetic about who they are and aren’t afraid to show all aspects of themselves.

“I also think there is a side to Nick few people see, but I can say he has a very big heart and, for him, giving back is really important, and that is a quality I admire about him.

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Didnt realize this thread is about Osaka? Oh wait it’s not and you just completely deflected and ignored what I said LMAO. Classic.
 
Many are close to kyrgios like Kokk, Djokovic on mens side. Tiafoe and shelton have good relations too. On the womens side there would be some players who have good relations, no big deal.
But other male players are either neutral or dont like kyrgios. Tipsy, michael venus etc.

This thread is about Djokovic Sinner. And djokovic is sided with nick to take potshots at sinner
 
Maybe you have a point. But sinner is all 'someone elses' fault. Nick has owned up to a degree on behaviour which isnt as recent. Going after sinner isnt bullying as much as overindulging his freedom of speech. Im amazed jannick didnt block him sooner unless he used it as motivation in.. the ..ahem..gym.
Nick may have said things in court that were to his advantage, but he's never sincerely owned up to his bad behaviour or taken serious steps to correct it. His comments directed at Sinner were entirely unwarranted.
 
I'm not sure if this is trying to make a mountain out of molehill, or if there is something to this. But I do have a hard time in general trusting sources that don't even do basic fact checking. To wit:

"Notably, they are the only two men in the Open Era to have successfully defended their first Grand Slam"
As far as I know, Federer did, in fact win Wimbledon 2004 :rolleyes:
 
Sinner is the new King of the Australian Open and he may take Djokovic's most precious records there. The bitterness makes sense.

He doesn't even have to take the records for Djoko to feel slighted

He just has to win one or two while Djoko is still playing and that's enough to wake the dragon

Many are close to kyrgios like Kokk, Djokovic on mens side.

Everybody likes kokk lol.
 
Sinner is the new King of the Australian Open and he may take Djokovic's most precious records there. The bitterness makes sense.
Sinner beat Djoker on Rold Laver Arena using Djoker's own game. That was cold. I understand Novak.
 
Sinner is the new King of the Australian Open and he may take Djokovic's most precious records there. The bitterness makes sense.
No. How can Sinner be considered the new King of Australia simply because he's won two? It requires more than that to be the King. I don't think even Djokovic, with 10, can claim that, as he's not been that dominant. He's played many close five-setters on his way to the trophy, and he's only won it 10 out of 20 times of trying.
 
No. How can Sinner be considered the new King of Australia simply because he's won two? It requires more than that to be the King. I don't think even Djokovic, with 10, can claim that, as he's not been that dominant. He's played many close five-setters on his way to the trophy, and he's only won it 10 out of 20 times of trying.

Oh right. No one is the king of anything aside from Rafa.

I get what you're saying and Federer had a longer streak of SF or better at some point.

But he has 10 crowns there....silly to say he isn't "The King"

Although, Sinner is the man to beat at the moment. He's won 2 in a row now and has beaten basically everyone along the way
 
Nick may have said things in court that were to his advantage, but he's never sincerely owned up to his bad behaviour or taken serious steps to correct it. His comments directed at Sinner were entirely unwarranted.
So i guess you know more than most. Fantastic. But if you havent seen his lengthy interview with piers morgan (not someone i like but he gets good discussion and insights anyway) then maybe you are missing my point. Also i guess you couldnt care any more for kygrios being suicidal than his fellow aussie aiava .. but he is trying to do something positive.

I just see a pr machine with sinner out to make as much money as possible. Not the first not the last. Bet he enjoyed playing victim recently to improve his own publicity.

And if you had many injuries and cant get over them somw frustration on court is normal. I prefer a relatable reaction to quiet resignation to something soul destroying. Sinners mtos are a joke as he clearly is very fit. I see little better than what the big 3 have pulled (yes even federer has a small history, see 2017 in particular).
 
So i guess you know more than most. Fantastic. But if you havent seen his lengthy interview with piers morgan (not someone i like but he gets good discussion and insights anyway) then maybe you are missing my point. Also i guess you couldnt care any more for kygrios being suicidal than his fellow aussie aiava .. but he is trying to do something positive.

I just see a pr machine with sinner out to make as much money as possible. Not the first not the last. Bet he enjoyed playing victim recently to improve his own publicity.

And if you had many injuries and cant get over them somw frustration on court is normal. I prefer a relatable reaction to quiet resignation to something soul destroying. Sinners mtos are a joke as he clearly is very fit. I see little better than what the big 3 have pulled (yes even federer has a small history, see 2017 in particular).

Federer used one vs Stan and was not real shy about the motivation--bc Stan took one first

Do you have any others? Because there's a huge gap between Nadal, then Djoko, then Fed when it comes to MTO
 
No. How can Sinner be considered the new King of Australia simply because he's won two? It requires more than that to be the King. I don't think even Djokovic, with 10, can claim that, as he's not been that dominant. He's played many close five-setters on his way to the trophy, and he's only won it 10 out of 20 times of trying.

He's the current king, 2x defending champion. Djokovic is still the all-time king, for now. At this rate, by the time Djokovic's statue is built (if it happens), it may then get demolished to make room for Sinner's.
 
An enemy who attacks you from front is better than enemy who ambush you from behind.

Just a thought. No personal offense to any player or their fans, plz

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Is this your rule?

Sinner is the top dog of the venue as 2x defending champion. He is the hunted and the competitors are the hunters, including Djokovic who would be afraid to face Sinner at AO at this point. It's not more complicated than that.
 
Sinner is the top dog of the venue as 2x defending champion. He is the hunted and the competitors are the hunters, including Djokovic who would be afraid to face Sinner at AO at this point. It's not more complicated than that.
I disagree with you. We shouldn't set the bar too low. There is no way Sinner is the King over Djokovic at the AO.
 
Federer used one vs Stan and was not real shy about the motivation--bc Stan took one first

Do you have any others? Because there's a huge gap between Nadal, then Djoko, then Fed when it comes to MTO
Of course stan needed one. Fed didnt.. apart from stopping momentum against him. Im not trying to say fed did anything like the other 2.. im actually more on about his lack of empathy for others and saying he didnt quit. Of course he didnt and thats good.. but that ruined the yec when he beat stan for points and prize money only to withdraw anyway. At least goran in a meaningless seniors event did the right thing and retired even though he could easily have won.. allowing rafter to play the final.
I know federer has always been popular on ttw but im just staying true to what i always thought of him.. a maestro who puts no1 first.
 
Sinner is the top dog of the venue as 2x defending champion. He is the hunted and the competitors are the hunters, including Djokovic who would be afraid to face Sinner at AO at this point. It's not more complicated than that.
Novak really wanted a rematch of 2024.. he wasnt afraid.. but was wary. I doubt he would mind being the oldest Ao finalist ever, even had he lost badly.
 
Sinner is the new King of the Australian Open and he may take Djokovic's most precious records there. The bitterness makes sense.
Sinner will need that record, because his best clay title is Umag 2022, and Alcaraz owns Wimbledon and Roland Garros :love:

Current king but not yet all-time king.
Winning 2 AO titles doesn't make you the king of anything :laughing:
 
Anyone still think I'm crazy for saying Djoko doesn't like Sinner?
Well, maybe he thinks Sinner will win every HC major in the next 5 years. And that will probably happen if Alcaraz doesnt make a HC final in the next years.

So you have Undisputed grass GOAT in Federer, the undisputed Clay GOAT in Nadal and Novak on HC. Sinner is way above everyone else on HCs right now.
 
I remember when they asked Novak what’s the first thing that came to his mind when they mention Sinner and he said “Skiing”. That tells you all you need to know lol.
 
Sinner will need that record, because his best clay title is Umag 2022, and Alcaraz owns Wimbledon and Roland Garros :love:


Winning 2 AO titles doesn't make you the king of anything :laughing:

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What a bad feeling it must be to wake up and see that your favorite is always 5000 points behind the king of the circuit.
That the more time passes the more you realize that the predestined new GOAT Alcaraz probably won't even be the best player of his generation at the end of his career.
 
I remember when they asked Novak what’s the first thing that came to his mind when they mention Sinner and he said “Skiing”. That tells you all you need to know lol.
hmm..possible though it can be harmless also. But siding with Nick and questioning Sinner getting away just before AO revealed the intentions
 
Djokovic can see his hard court goat status, which is debatable anyway, slipping away before his very eyes.
He and Zod always had a love in. They share the same persecuted mentality.
Oh yeah Djokovic is really scared of someone with 3 slams, and a consistently cramping body that looks like a ticking time-bomb :-D
And the problem with Sinner's constant reliance on hardcourt, is that most of the best up-and-comers are hardcourters.
 
You're seriously comparing the YEC to a Legends match? Ok
Im comparing what federer is about to someone who didnt want to let people down. The money and stakes is not the real point. You focus on the events but cant you just admit federer wanted money and points more than making the event meaningful.
I also found mirka truly repugnant. Whatever her reasons.. just leave it for another time lady.

In general i find rogers waving to the crowd etc always a bit forced. I also recall how he expected to be let through without a pass. Maybe some security havent watched a second of tennis. Maybe they are jobsworths. But he has that air of exemptions applying.

With that said, sinner walking on like its just another match in the AO final was grimly insular.
 
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