Djokovic's Current Game; Rest of 2018 Season

Examine DJoker's entire performance of 2018 Wimby versus his peak yrs of 2-3 yrs ago, I can see:

1) His 1st serve speed down by 2-3 mpg but he spots his 1st serve very well now. Also 1st % is high, often in low 70% which is very good. Overall his 1st serve level is as good as peak yrs.

2) Drop of 2nd serve speed by 3-4 miles vs his peak 3-4 years ago. He used to crack 105-108 mph heavy-spin 2nd serve regularly, not anymore. This resulted in his 2nd serve winning % low (52% before final) which I have to believe it was higher (55-57%?) before.

3) Forehand held up well in 2018 Wimby but shot depth seemed a bit shorter then before, due to lighter racquet?

4) Defence/Movement as great as before.

5) Return of Serve and backhand got better and better through these 7 matches. Largely old self at the business end of the tourney.

6) Hasn't moved up to the net as often as he used to. But one has to believe it will come with more match plays. Shorten the game somewhat bodes well for his longevity.

7) Breakpoint conversation rate is LOW for his caliber (35/96 for the tourney before final). Hopefully another 5-8% increase with more match plays in North America hard court season.

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If he can shore up 2nd serve a bit more, a bit more depth on FH, more alert on breakpoint opportunities, he should fare very well rest of the season including winning US Open and take the elusive Cincy title, and possibly challenge Nadal for 2018 year-end #1. And how great will that be?

What do you guys think?
 

Red Rick

Talk Tennis Guru
Rest of the season is on HC, so stats should shape up a little differently. I think his 2nd serve% won will probably have suffered a little from playing both Nishikori and Nadal.

And I fully agree he's Nadal's primary competition for YE#1.
 

sarmpas

Hall of Fame
Let's wait until he is as good as we think he can be at his current age before we start talking about which areas he does or doesn't do as well as he used to. After Wimbledon he said he had doubts if he'd reach slam winning level again so let's see how much better a more assured Novak is at the USO.
 

jm1980

G.O.A.T.
Let's see how he looks in Canada and Cincy

Maybe he could win the USO, but another early defeat to a mug wouldn't surprise me
 

N01E

Professional
His Ros is well below his standards, especially on body/fh side. Just look how furious he was against Rafa, when he got the serve on his racket, but couldn't do anything. And the second serve looks terrible. Thank goodnes Rafa didn't attack it so much in the first set. Forehand looks good, maybe to loopy and too short, but I think it may get better as his confidence gets higher. Same with BP conversion.
 

Djokovic2011

Bionic Poster
Who would it be then? If it’s not a resurgent Nole who will push Nadal from the #1 spot?
I don't know but considering Nadal's been a professional for seventeen years and still hasn't posted back to back YE#1s, not to mention the fact he hasn't completed a HC tournament since Shanghai last October, let's just say I'm more than a little dubious about his chances.
 

GabeT

Legend
I don't know but considering Nadal's been a professional for seventeen years and still hasn't posted back to back YE#1s, not to mention the fact he hasn't completed a HC tournament since Shanghai last October, let's just say I'm more than a little dubious about his chances.
True. It is quite a challenge.
 

TheAssassin

Legend
I want that return and backhand to improve by the US Open. Not that I am complaining about the last tournament, he had several tough tests and passed them all for the first time in a while. But it's not going to get any easier.
 

Playing return games seem to be at the highest level for Novak, but thats his natural gift and talent
So i guess thats always the easiest one to come back too..

 

BeatlesFan

Talk Tennis Guru
Neither is Nadal. (ending YE #1);)
Damn straight. This unique and beautiful specimen of manhood shown below us is now 38 years. old We could take him from mothballs and he'd have almost the same chance that Nadal has of finishing #1:

 
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His Ros is well below his standards, especially on body/fh side. Just look how furious he was against Rafa, when he got the serve on his racket, but couldn't do anything. And the second serve looks terrible. Thank goodnes Rafa didn't attack it so much in the first set. Forehand looks good, maybe to loopy and too short, but I think it may get better as his confidence gets higher. Same with BP conversion.
I don't know his return of serve is well below high standard but both Nadal and esp. Anderson (in 3rd set with success) targeting his FH all the time when serving.That's the weaker wing for sure.
 

RF-18

G.O.A.T.

Playing return games seem to be at the highest level for Novak, but thats his natural gift and talent
So i guess thats always the easiest one to come back too..

Djokovic's return stats this grass season was on an all time high for him on grass.
 

justasport

Professional
Djokovic is playing great tennis! That semifinal win against nadal will prove to be huge for the remainder of his year because he played even better in the final! The final looked like 2015 Djokovic to me! He's full of confidence again and has all his ducks in a row for a great north American hardcourt swing. I predict him to win in Canada and play well in Cincinnati too! The us open is the big one now though and as I have said since roger lost to Anderson at Wimbledon he is going to win his 6th title at the us open this year to break the record he now shares with Sampras and Connors. If Nole is on the opposite side to Roger in the draw I think we will have a Fed vs Djoker final for the third time in the us open final!
 

Pheasant

Hall of Fame
Djokovic’s serving has been lights out. He still moves extremely well too. I think that he has a better chance than anybody at winning the USO, although Nadal is a close 2nd.
 
Djokovic is playing great tennis! That semifinal win against nadal will prove to be huge for the remainder of his year because he played even better in the final! The final looked like 2015 Djokovic to me! He's full of confidence again and has all his ducks in a row for a great north American hardcourt swing. I predict him to win in Canada and play well in Cincinnati too! The us open is the big one now though and as I have said since roger lost to Anderson at Wimbledon he is going to win his 6th title at the us open this year to break the record he now shares with Sampras and Connors. If Nole is on the opposite side to Roger in the draw I think we will have a Fed vs Djoker final for the third time in the us open final!
The only trouble Novak faced in the final against Anderson is in the final 2 service games in 3rd set. He saved 5 break points there I believe. But those 5 BPs mostly are caused by double faults (4 DFs in those 2 games I think). Why 4 double faults? Largely because he tried serving HARD on those 2nd serves, touching 106, 108, and even 110mph - which he used to be able to do 3-4 yrs ago but NOT at this tourney. He failed and most of them went long. Tim Hemnan on BBC wondering why he suddenly tried to serve that hard (and failed) against a not-so-good returner at that moment? Nerve it must be.

My point being: Novak's 2nd serve is not yet up to his old standard, noticeably slower now and subject to attack. He should be able to improve that somewhat over this summer.
 

Checkmate

Hall of Fame
The only trouble Novak faced in the final against Anderson is in the final 2 service games in 3rd set. He saved 5 break points there I believe. But those 5 BPs mostly are caused by double faults (4 DFs in those 2 games I think). Why 4 double faults? Largely because he tried serving HARD on those 2nd serves, touching 106, 108, and even 110mph - which he used to be able to do 3-4 yrs ago but NOT at this tourney. He failed and most of them went long. Tim Hemnan on BBC wondering why he suddenly tried to serve that hard (and failed) against a not-so-good returner at that moment? Nerve it must be.

My point being: Novak's 2nd serve is not yet up to his old standard, noticeably slower now and subject to attack. He should be able to improve that somewhat over this summer.
Maybe because he doesn't trust his 2nd serve at all ?
 

pikku05

Rookie
I think Wimbledon tournament is probably a one off and he may slack off during the US HC season. His ROS was on and off and depth in his shots was missing, he is not going to have it easy if he is missing those attributes of his game while playing on the HC. Also his fitness still looks suspect, HC is more demanding on the body than grass. Needs to improve on a lot of aspects of he is to have a shot at upcoming tournaments. I think he will be back to his consistent best from AO 2019, won't be surprised if he crashes out in early rounds this year.
 

MichaelNadal

Bionic Poster
For your kind concern, I would like to enlighten the fact that imhotep was the best engineer of ancient Egyptian culture, not the villian he is pictured in films
Hes a great movie villain tho :) my nickhames are compliments, I nickname all my friends :p dont believe the TTW hype that I "hate" him. He's my guys rival :) enuff said
 
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Deleted member 77403

Guest
All I will say is this...

Earth's Mightiest is only going to get stronger...just like the Legendary Super Saiyan Broly has arrived, Earth's Mightiest will continue his ascension and take the darkness away from tennis and bring it into the light. :cool:
 
Will either win or be runner up at the US. Will win Aussie & Wimbledon next year. Probably runner-up at RG as well. YEC in the bag obviously.
 

NoleFam

G.O.A.T.
Can you somehow get his average 2nd serve speed for this 2018 Wimby? Maybe along that stat from other year (like 2015). I have not seen it (2nd serve speed) anywhere. I beat it is noticeably slowed than 3 yrs ago. Thanks.
2015
F - 96
SF - 92
QF - 98
4th - 99
3rd - 97
2nd - 98
1st - 100

2018
F - 99
SF - 95
QF - 96
4th - 97
3rd - 97
2nd - 96
1st - 97

Those are the second serve return speeds from 2015 and 2018. 2018 is only slightly slower but what made the difference is that the 2nd serve in 2015 was much deeper and closer to the lines. His 2nd serve at this Wimbledon could still sometimes be too short and not pulling the opponent out of position enough. That comes back with more matches and confidence, and will take him more time to get to that level.
 
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