Djokovic's decline

TheMaestro1990

Hall of Fame
I think his decline is mainly due to loss of motivation after completing the career Grand Slam last year. Then his injury has probably made it tougher for him to reach his best level. He had the fire in Wimbledon, but couldn't really give his best, it was quite obvious.

So, with Djokovic being 30 now, is he finished? Or can he still win Grand Slam titles, and if so - how many?

Personally, I actually feel Djokovic hasn't declined that much physically. Obviously the shoulder is hurting him, but if he can get that fixed, I see no reason why he can't reach a level close to the 2015-2016 one if he is fully motivated. I think it's possible for him to stay competitive at the very top, especially on hard courts until his 33. Just look at Federer...

I found this article, pretty in-depth about Djokovic's decline:

http://www.tennis-pulse.com/djokovic-sand-castle-effect/
 

ACE of Hearts

Bionic Poster
It has to do with a lot of factors and I would include age. I don't think his game's similar to Federer for him to compete later during the stage of his career.
 
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Deleted member 307496

Guest
I don't see him dropping off that dramatically until he's in his mid thirties. He's got the tools to stay competitive at the top for quite a long time so long as he shortens rallies and plays a more high percentage aggressive game.
 
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Deleted member 307496

Guest
It has to do with a lot of factors and I would include age. I don't think his game's similar to Federer for him to compete later during the stage of his career.
No, but it isn't that far off Agassi with better movement.
 
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Deleted member 307496

Guest
He needs to find his fighting spirit back. Fk Pepe and amor y paz, he got to play angry again.
I think it's more motivation. Djokovic hasn't been as hungry since he won the French Open and that Wimbledon upset has snowballed into something awful.

He just needs to start entering smaller tournaments and build confidence, like he did before Wimbledon.

Winning events like Bangkok would actually do a lot for Novak if he uses them as a platform to achieve bigger things.
 

Jackuar

Hall of Fame
If Nadal can come back after his 253rd career injury, Djokovic can come back too. But don't expect Djokodal to do everything Federer does, like for example, winning after a 6 month injury off, or being competitive post 33/34ish. That's the max I give Djokodal to be competitive - 33 or so.

So they have about 3 more years to win as much as they want, 4 / 7 slams, and anything else. And pray that the mug gen remains so. I cannot imagine the next champion not coming up even after 2019/mid 2020.
 

stiggytennis

Semi-Pro
Perhaps playing full schedules is behind Nole now, not just physically but mentally, and with it, maybe no1 ranking, for a while at least.
Does he have the motivation to put all those hard hours in to maintain his freakish physical attributes?
If not, half his game has gone, so perhaps he needs to contemplate changing his style towards attacking tennis.
 

Checkmate

Hall of Fame
Personally,really looking forward to the USO and see how Djokovic fares there if he is fully fit. He will have to heal a lot if he wants to hurt a lot.
 

Red Rick

Bionic Poster
Djokovic is still the one who's done the most brutal demolitioj jobs and highest levels this year. He still has it. Problem is that he doesn't have it in tight matches anymore. That is something that can come back
 

Jonas78

Legend
A combination maybe, but mostly motivation. It can't be a coincidence that he declined that fast right after RG16. Injuries and age doesnt help though.

I think Djoker has another run in him, but as i have said before; Federer is the exception, not the rule, almost all Feds peers are long gone. I dont expect Rafa, Djoker and Murray to all have great late careers, especially post 32.
 

Thundergod

Professional
If not, half his game has gone, so perhaps he needs to contemplate changing his style towards attacking tennis.
That's pretty much the key right here for both Djokovic and Murray. Aside from Ferrer(before this year), most of the guys who have been aging relatively well on tour have a really good serve and at the very least try to shorten points more. People like Fed, Karlovic, Muller, and Lopez all have ways of shortening points.

Nadal should be the perfect example for them since he's been getting a better serve and has been at least a little more of an attacking player.
 
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Charlie

Guest
I think Djokovic will win Slams again once he recovers. IMO he was fired up at Wimbledon but the shoulder problem denied him a better result. It's better that the injury is his obstacle now rather than his loss of motivation. If he doesn't want to be the best again then we shouldn't be expecting much from him. But if he wants it then he is going to be very dangerous. The body can heal, and Novak in particular hasn't been prone to big injuries throughout his career which is great. Watch out for him in the following seasons because Earth's Mightiest Warrior is far from done.
 

Beowulf

Rookie
Assuming his body gets back to 100% and he sorts out his emotional/motivation issues, Djokovic can still win several more majors, but because he's in his 30s, he'll probably need to learn to shorten the points like Federer. Maybe start skipping clay events too. It might be a hard transition for him to change his game. He'll need a good coach for that sort of thing. Don't think Agassi will devote the time necessary for it.
 

FiReFTW

Legend
Everyone declines physicaly after so much wear and tear, both Nadal and Federer have declined significantly after 28, Djokovic is no exeption, its the same for him.

Thats why I find it funny how people come up with these crazy theories how pepe imaz destroyed him or how his personal life affected him... lol.. its the same with every athlete, they start declining after their body starts showing wear and tear.

Nadal did a good job changing his game to make up for his physical decline tho, so now his serve is better and he is more aggressive and made his backhand better etc...
Federer even more so, changed his game to make up for the decline, changed racquets tho he only got used to it really this year for the first time, worked on serve alot to improve it etc...
With Djokovic it depends how he will handle the decline and how he will change his game.
 

Rafa the King

Hall of Fame
So you don't see him doing anything on grass or clay for the rest of his career?
Ofcourse very plausible, even this year at WIM I think his best level was only second to Roger. He is an incredible all-rounder but I think he doesn't have 5+ slams in him like I thought last year and his chances are always the best on HCs, 13 slam finals and 8 majors show that as opposed to 8 finals and 4 titles on the natural surfaces.
 

reaper

Legend
Djokovic is a true great of the sport and will find his way back to the top if he can sort out the arm injury. Dumping his team and hiring Agassi suggests the hunger is still there. He won't be content to go down as the least of the big 3, and will try to get back to number one and look to chase down (probably unsuccessfully) some records of the other two. The guy who might well go into freefall is Murray. He's got a significant injury, has always had to work incredibly hard to stay with the greats of his era, and doesn't look to have goals to chase as motivation.
 
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