Djokovic's ex-coach : It was not the real Djokovic who played Wimb 23 Final

Federev

G.O.A.T.
Djokovic and his fans and followers are truly sore losers.
Don't these idiots realize that Wimbledon is an outdoor tournament??? :laughing: :-D
To be fair - Novak didn’t complain about the wind. I didn’t hear any excuses. He gave full credit to Carlos. I heard zero excuses.
 
I thought it was more like 20mph for stretches of the match or at least according to the forecast. The commentators talked about the wind a lot when he kept catching his toss, making some errors wide into the alleys etc.
It's weird because it did not *feel* windy watching the match.
 
As far as Nikola Pilic is concerned, it wasn’t the real Novak Djokovic out there against Carlos Alcaraz at Wimbledon.

Alcaraz came back from a set down to defeat Djokovic in five sets to win his second career Grand Slam title as well as his first at the All-England Club.

Given the nature of the win — with the Spaniard notably being the first to defeat Djokovic in a completed match at Wimbledon since 2016 — many believe there will be a changing of the guard with Alcaraz spearheading it.

But Pilic, the ex-coach of Djokovic, believes this is nothing more than speculation.

“These are pure speculations by journalists,” Pilic told Meridian Sport (via Tennis 365). “It can be, but it doesn’t have to be. Let’s see what will happen at the US Open, where he (Alcaraz) defends 2000 points, and Novak doesn’t have to do anything.

“What will happen in 10 years? Are you going to tell me that Carlos will win 14 Roland Garros titles, or are you going to tell me that he will be number one for 400 weeks? Those are two records for all time.”

As for the match itself, Pilic was left to rue Djokovic’s mistakes and failed opportunities.

He even went as far as saying it wasn’t the real Serbian superstar out there on the day, specifically making note of how Djokovic’s serve appeared to be off.

“That was not the real Novak Djokovic,” he added. “It was not Novak’s day and Alcaraz himself admitted it. He could have won the second set, but he didn’t make those two backhands well [in the tiebreak] and his opponent took advantage of that.

“In the second set he completely fell, but in the fourth he got up and started playing well again. In the fifth, he made mistakes in his service and thus allowed Alcaraz to break. That was a problem in general during the match, the service movement didn’t look right.

“For example, in the [fourth round] match against [Hubert] Hurkacz, he served perfectly, and in the final, he did not make an ace for two whole sets. If only Novak had played as he knows how, he wouldn’t have lost.”

Perhaps there was an injury bothering Djokovic, or perhaps it was a case of Alcaraz simply being the better player on the occasion.

LMAOO. You know, the whole thing with Papa Djokovic talking about “son of God” is closer to the truth for these people than we first realized — it’s as if their faith has been broken, and they themselves arembroken looking for all kinds of wild excuses, and then talking about “well he’s not gonna win 14 RG or he’s not gonna be number one for 400weeks.”

This is absolutely wild and it’s glorious.
"Perhaps there was an injury bothering Djokovic, or perhaps it was a case of Alcaraz simply being the better player on the occasion."

I'm surprised they even gave the latter option a consideration. lol
This is like the person who has faith and believes in the religion of Djokovic having doubts for the first time by giving this option that maybe little Carlitos outplayed him.
 

Mike Sams

G.O.A.T.
To be fair - Novak didn’t complain about the wind. I didn’t hear any excuses. He gave full credit to Carlos. I heard zero excuses.
It's in Novak's best interest too. Better to STFU and not mention it rather than having the crowds hate him even more than they already do :-D
 

CHillTennis

Hall of Fame
Pilic should know better than to argue against the facts.

Don't you know that Carlos is now guaranteed a bare minimum of 100 slams because he beat Djokovic (one time) in a grand slam final?

Djokovic has never played better in his life than in the final of Wimbledon.

Carlos is now officially the GOAT because he won a match against Djokovic.

Now that Alcaraz has won this match against Novak, Holger Rune and Jannik Sinner will start to beat Djokovic every time.

Even though the former has never made it past the quarters of a slam and the later is known for firing blanks in the latter stages of events.

Please don't be distracted by my sarcasm.
 

WeekendTennisHack

Hall of Fame
He's basically saying it was the real Djokovic when he won the set and not the real one when he lost a set. So essentially a delusional Djokertard.

About missed BH's in the TB, yes Djokovic made those UE's, but if he had made those balls, then it doesn't automatically mean he wins the point, the point simply goes on and Alcaraz might still come out on top, and then they'd be looking for another excuse UE. Rinse and repeat.
 

DSH

Talk Tennis Guru
As far as Nikola Pilic is concerned, it wasn’t the real Novak Djokovic out there against Carlos Alcaraz at Wimbledon.

Alcaraz came back from a set down to defeat Djokovic in five sets to win his second career Grand Slam title as well as his first at the All-England Club.

Given the nature of the win — with the Spaniard notably being the first to defeat Djokovic in a completed match at Wimbledon since 2016 — many believe there will be a changing of the guard with Alcaraz spearheading it.

But Pilic, the ex-coach of Djokovic, believes this is nothing more than speculation.

“These are pure speculations by journalists,” Pilic told Meridian Sport (via Tennis 365). “It can be, but it doesn’t have to be. Let’s see what will happen at the US Open, where he (Alcaraz) defends 2000 points, and Novak doesn’t have to do anything.

“What will happen in 10 years? Are you going to tell me that Carlos will win 14 Roland Garros titles, or are you going to tell me that he will be number one for 400 weeks? Those are two records for all time.”

As for the match itself, Pilic was left to rue Djokovic’s mistakes and failed opportunities.

He even went as far as saying it wasn’t the real Serbian superstar out there on the day, specifically making note of how Djokovic’s serve appeared to be off.

“That was not the real Novak Djokovic,” he added. “It was not Novak’s day and Alcaraz himself admitted it. He could have won the second set, but he didn’t make those two backhands well [in the tiebreak] and his opponent took advantage of that.

“In the second set he completely fell, but in the fourth he got up and started playing well again. In the fifth, he made mistakes in his service and thus allowed Alcaraz to break. That was a problem in general during the match, the service movement didn’t look right.

“For example, in the [fourth round] match against [Hubert] Hurkacz, he served perfectly, and in the final, he did not make an ace for two whole sets. If only Novak had played as he knows how, he wouldn’t have lost.”

Perhaps there was an injury bothering Djokovic, or perhaps it was a case of Alcaraz simply being the better player on the occasion.

This guy has more excuses than President after one year in the office.

What the guy doesn't say is that he finally had a serious rival in a final and not opponents who were defeated before facing him on the court or who were unable to expose him despite his advanced age.
:whistle:
 

roysid

Legend
As far as Nikola Pilic is concerned, it wasn’t the real Novak Djokovic out there against Carlos Alcaraz at Wimbledon.

Alcaraz came back from a set down to defeat Djokovic in five sets to win his second career Grand Slam title as well as his first at the All-England Club.

Given the nature of the win — with the Spaniard notably being the first to defeat Djokovic in a completed match at Wimbledon since 2016 — many believe there will be a changing of the guard with Alcaraz spearheading it.

But Pilic, the ex-coach of Djokovic, believes this is nothing more than speculation.

“These are pure speculations by journalists,” Pilic told Meridian Sport (via Tennis 365). “It can be, but it doesn’t have to be. Let’s see what will happen at the US Open, where he (Alcaraz) defends 2000 points, and Novak doesn’t have to do anything.

“What will happen in 10 years? Are you going to tell me that Carlos will win 14 Roland Garros titles, or are you going to tell me that he will be number one for 400 weeks? Those are two records for all time.”

As for the match itself, Pilic was left to rue Djokovic’s mistakes and failed opportunities.

He even went as far as saying it wasn’t the real Serbian superstar out there on the day, specifically making note of how Djokovic’s serve appeared to be off.

“That was not the real Novak Djokovic,” he added. “It was not Novak’s day and Alcaraz himself admitted it. He could have won the second set, but he didn’t make those two backhands well [in the tiebreak] and his opponent took advantage of that.

“In the second set he completely fell, but in the fourth he got up and started playing well again. In the fifth, he made mistakes in his service and thus allowed Alcaraz to break. That was a problem in general during the match, the service movement didn’t look right.

“For example, in the [fourth round] match against [Hubert] Hurkacz, he served perfectly, and in the final, he did not make an ace for two whole sets. If only Novak had played as he knows how, he wouldn’t have lost.”

Perhaps there was an injury bothering Djokovic, or perhaps it was a case of Alcaraz simply being the better player on the occasion.

True. Its djokovic of 36 years and 2 months. Body wont be the same like in earlier years
 

Silverbullet96

Hall of Fame
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It is what it is.
Carlos also had a tape on his wrist, it's all even.
 

Mike Sams

G.O.A.T.
"Perhaps" there was an injury?? Clearly there was an injury in one of those first 2 tumbles Djoker took. you could see him laboring the leg. Mix the wind (Which Djoker has always struggled with anyways), yes it wasn't Djoker's day. But there will be other days. If Fed was playing at 38, so will Djoker be
Shut up. You said NOTHING during the final. Don't be a little yellow coward and try to discredit Alcaraz's victory now. Be a man and eat your crow. Novak was beaten up and reduced to tears in front of the whole world.
 

tex123

Hall of Fame
As far as Nikola Pilic is concerned, it wasn’t the real Novak Djokovic out there against Carlos Alcaraz at Wimbledon.

Alcaraz came back from a set down to defeat Djokovic in five sets to win his second career Grand Slam title as well as his first at the All-England Club.

Given the nature of the win — with the Spaniard notably being the first to defeat Djokovic in a completed match at Wimbledon since 2016 — many believe there will be a changing of the guard with Alcaraz spearheading it.

But Pilic, the ex-coach of Djokovic, believes this is nothing more than speculation.

“These are pure speculations by journalists,” Pilic told Meridian Sport (via Tennis 365). “It can be, but it doesn’t have to be. Let’s see what will happen at the US Open, where he (Alcaraz) defends 2000 points, and Novak doesn’t have to do anything.

“What will happen in 10 years? Are you going to tell me that Carlos will win 14 Roland Garros titles, or are you going to tell me that he will be number one for 400 weeks? Those are two records for all time.”

As for the match itself, Pilic was left to rue Djokovic’s mistakes and failed opportunities.

He even went as far as saying it wasn’t the real Serbian superstar out there on the day, specifically making note of how Djokovic’s serve appeared to be off.

“That was not the real Novak Djokovic,” he added. “It was not Novak’s day and Alcaraz himself admitted it. He could have won the second set, but he didn’t make those two backhands well [in the tiebreak] and his opponent took advantage of that.

“In the second set he completely fell, but in the fourth he got up and started playing well again. In the fifth, he made mistakes in his service and thus allowed Alcaraz to break. That was a problem in general during the match, the service movement didn’t look right.

“For example, in the [fourth round] match against [Hubert] Hurkacz, he served perfectly, and in the final, he did not make an ace for two whole sets. If only Novak had played as he knows how, he wouldn’t have lost.”

Perhaps there was an injury bothering Djokovic, or perhaps it was a case of Alcaraz simply being the better player on the occasion.

Comparing no-forehand servebot mentsl midget Hurkacz to the most complete player Alcaraz LMAO. This coach needs some meds.
 

Spin Diesel

Hall of Fame
If that's the logic, then there's compensation for that - because pretty much every player made a lot more errors and less winners when facing Djokovic, compared to their previous rounds.
 

aldeayeah

G.O.A.T.
Everyone saying Djokovic threw away the second set is absolutely full of ****

Alcaraz was all over the Djokovic service games. Wasted BPs, was 0-30 several times. If he had lost the set, it would have been his own failing.
 
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Hood_Man

G.O.A.T.
What exactly was wrong with the server in the final? I saw for myself Djokovic hitting serves that would have been aces or unreturnable against anyone else, and every time I was shocked to see Alcaraz return them.

Alcaraz read the serve, it's as simple as that.
 

40Deuce

Rookie
Novak lost because of Novak, there’s nothing that Carlos did to pressure or force Novak into hitting the ball into the net repeatedly along with all the other odd and strange mistakes Novak made.

Same for Carlos and the FO after the first set, except for the fact that Carlos is not a proven player. Some day he will be, but as of now he isn’t.

Novak looked and played 100% burned out, he’s already won two slams and almost completed the Chanel slam which is the most difficult part of the calendar slam.

Carlos is still an amazing rising player and there’s no doubt his own legacy is imminent, but the hype has been just that.

With that said the USO will be a huge indicator for how imminent that emergence really is.

He was primed and ready after straight setting Sinner in the SF and he played before Alcaraz on SF day. Just accept Carlos didn't crumble like a Ruud or Berrettini and Carlos took Novak's legs away. Those unexplained missed easy backhands happened because Djokovic didn't move his feet for positioning on those shots because he was tired.
 

Rina

Hall of Fame
He is correct in what he is saying. The kid won slams, and now people are acting like Djokovic is a total loser, and Carlos will have 30 slams. You are all writing it here. Nadal, Fed, and Djokovic are basically aberrations in the history of tennis. It is extremely rare to win even five slams, let alone over 20. All this hyping is very, very premature. We had similar expectations and hypes, and none paid off before.

I agree with Pilic; I think the translation or it or how he said it is slightly wrong; it was Djokovic playing out there, but perhaps in the same way as the declining Fed did.
We all thought Nadal was "finish", but nope, yet won AO and RG again, right? As you all say, never count out Nadal at RG, and I think you are all too quick to count Djokovic out after one lost Slam to Carlitos.
 
He is correct in what he is saying. The kid won slams, and now people are acting like Djokovic is a total loser, and Carlos will have 30 slams. You are all writing it here. Nadal, Fed, and Djokovic are basically aberrations in the history of tennis. It is extremely rare to win even five slams, let alone over 20. All this hyping is very, very premature. We had similar expectations and hypes, and none paid off before.

I agree with Pilic; I think the translation or it or how he said it is slightly wrong; it was Djokovic playing out there, but perhaps in the same way as the declining Fed did.
We all thought Nadal was "finish", but nope, yet won AO and RG again, right? As you all say, never count out Nadal at RG, and I think you are all too quick to count Djokovic out after one lost Slam to Carlitos.
Hype is based on the eye test comparing him to those aforementioned aberrations.
 

paolo2143

Hall of Fame
Look the wind affected the match, just watch some of the rallies to see that. However, both players had to deal with it and Carlos dealt with it a bit better than Novak.
 

Sephiroth

Hall of Fame
Alcaraz was much closer to not playing like his usual self at RG compared to egg at Wimbledon

Alcaraz took it to Djokovic in the final and never relented even after a breadstick, many others would've folded straight up
 

heninfan99

Talk Tennis Guru
“What will happen in 10 years? Are you going to tell me that Carlos will win 14 Roland Garros titles, or are you going to tell me that he will be number one for 400 weeks? Those are two records for all time.”
No. What we are saying is that if they both play their best the kid wins.
It's a natural thing for every champion to face.
 

octobrina10

Talk Tennis Guru
So the excuse of the day is now injury?
Let's see, we've had wind, the crowd, burned out, injured.

My my, Ultron at his finest?

By injury they must mean like the horrendous, pulled hamstring he had in Australia, which was seen as such a joke a 100 metre dash Olympic Champion tweeted making fun of him claiming he had a pulled hamstring after watching him play some of a match. :laughing:
 

Torben

Semi-Pro
Alcaraz was all over the Djokovic service games. Wasted BPs, was 0-30 several times. If he had lost the set, it would have been his own failing.
Alcaraz’s return game had Djokovic under extreme pressure from the beginning.

The backhand return winner to give him the tie break and 2nd set was incredible.

Alcaraz meant nothing but business on this day. Tremendous effort!
 

Torben

Semi-Pro
Nikola has been hanging around Srdjan a little too long.

It’s not the first time he’s sounded off base by some margin.
 
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