Djokovic's inferiorty complex against Federer is excruciating to watch...

FreeBird

Legend
I know this is just a 500 but I will never understand why Djokovic gives too much respect to Federer?

He is 2-4 against Federer in last 6 matches. Even in the two matches he won, he failed to serve out the match and made it more tense.

In 2013, Federer was below par. Accordingly, Djokovic dropped his level two notches below Federer resulting in two low quality matches.

The same thing is going on with Djok-Wawrinka. Djok crushes him in BO3 but whenever they are playing Bo5, he has the habit of stretching matches to 5th set whether Wawa is playing good or bad. No way AO 15 should have gone to 5th..This is strange...

Some players figure out the level of the opponent and accordingly raise their level, Djok does the opposite. :lol:
 

Fiji

Legend
Peak Roger would destroy this clown everywhere. Lucky for Djokovic, Federer is not 25 anymore....
 

Tiger8

Semi-Pro
I know this is just a 500 but I will never understand why Djokovic gives too much respect to Federer?

He is 2-4 against Federer in last 6 matches. Even in the two matches he won, he failed to serve out the match and made it more tense.

In 2013, Federer was below par. Accordingly, Djokovic dropped his level two notches below Federer resulting in two low quality matches.

The same thing is going on with Djok-Wawrinka. Djok crushes him in BO3 but whenever they are playing Bo5, he has the habit of stretching matches to 5th set whether Wawa is playing good or bad. No way AO 15 should have gone to 5th..This is strange...

Some players figure out the level of the opponent and accordingly raise their level, Djok does the opposite. :lol:
It's very strange, Djokovic just doesn't seem like he gets himself ready for these bigger matches. His strategy in slams seems to be to want to outlast his opponent physically, not through actual tennis skills. Doesn't work in BO3 matches, particularly against Federer. Plays passively too much, it's infuriating to watch as a fan.
 

FreeBird

Legend
Peak Roger would destroy this clown everywhere. Lucky for Djokovic, Federer is not 25 anymore....
Shame that Canas and NAdal didn't face Federer a lot in 2004-07. Fed would have been at 10 Slams. Lucky Federer clown....

:D
 

Fiji

Legend
Djokovic is number 1 in one of the weakest eras ever. He is a very weak number one. Will not win another slam this year.
 

FreeBird

Legend
Weak era?? Reminds me of 2004-07....Challenger player (at that time) defeating Federer back to back in masters..
 

Fiji

Legend
It's very strange, Djokovic just doesn't seem like he gets himself ready for these bigger matches. His strategy in slams seems to be to want to outlast his opponent physically, not through actual tennis skills. Doesn't work in BO3 matches, particularly against Federer. Plays passively too much, it's infuriating to watch as a fan.
That is why they call him the gymnast. His biggest talent is outlasting the players.
 

cknobman

Legend
Weak era?? Reminds me of 2004-07....Challenger player (at that time) defeating Federer back to back in masters..
I understand you're upset about the match today but please spare us your spiteful stupid posts.

Everyone wins and loses in tennis.
Today Fed won and Djoker lost.
A different day could lead to a different outcome.
 

swordtennis

G.O.A.T.
Way too much respect. Even in the loss he is far too classy. He needs to take the path of the scum bag Federer fans. Filthy dirt bags. He needs more of that killer instinct. Dirty low down underhanded back stabbing scum.
 

swordtennis

G.O.A.T.
I understand you're upset about the match today but please spare us your spiteful stupid posts.

Everyone wins and loses in tennis.
Today Fed won and Djoker lost.
A different day could lead to a different outcome.
WTF are you talking about? The Federer fans are scum in wins and losses.
 

jm1980

G.O.A.T.
In spite of what the H2H records say, Djokovic seems to play much better against Nadal than Fed overall. Match ups?
 

FreeBird

Legend
I understand you're upset about the match today but please spare us your spiteful stupid posts.

Everyone wins and loses in tennis.
Today Fed won and Djoker lost.
A different day could lead to a different outcome.
I really don't care about the outcome today. You are stupid if you don't get it. I am more concerned about the grand picture. Today's loss indictates why Djokovic might not win RG even if Nadal plays on wheel chair against him..If Nadal plays bad, he will accordingly play poorly (as seen at RG 14 also).

Djokovic needs to avoid Nadal if he has to win RG..
 

Fiji

Legend
Watching gymnast outlasting players with his stamina in Bo5 instead of his tennis is excruciating..
 

Backspin1183

G.O.A.T.
In spite of what the H2H records say, Djokovic seems to play much better against Nadal than Fed overall. Match ups?
Federer's serve makes the difference. When Nadal is serving above his standard level, he also has an easier time beating Djokovic. Let's just say Djokovic's return isn't really the best ever.
 

AngieB

Banned
He is 2-4 against Federer in last 6 matches. Even in the two matches he won, he failed to serve out the match and made it more tense.
Also, #Novak hasn't defeated #RafaelNadal in a #grandslam #match since #January2012.

#Novak has captialized from the aging #Rafael and #Roger lack of consistency and benefits from it historically.

#Just wanted to #point that out in the #event there was #anyone who wasn't #understanding.

#PTL #JC4Ever

AngieB
 

WhiskeyEE

G.O.A.T.
Yeah and Federer is the only one that is clean. Sure thing there.
If someone doesn't follow the rules on court, they probably don't follow them off court either.

If Nadal did cheat, his accelerated hair loss would've been a parting gift from it and for that he can hang his bald head in shame.
 
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Mkflag1

Rookie
Take it easy. Just remember:
1. He was facing the most successful player in the history of the game
2. He comes from a long break after winning a slam
3. His mind is probably in Philippe Chatrier
4. It's fricken Federer in fricken God-mode
 

Fiji

Legend
I really don't care about the outcome today. You are stupid if you don't get it. I am more concerned about the grand picture. Today's loss indictates why Djokovic might not win RG even if Nadal plays on wheel chair against him..If Nadal plays bad, he will accordingly play poorly (as seen at RG 14 also).

Djokovic needs to avoid Nadal if he has to win RG..
Nole will not win rg this year. The argie astrologer told me.
 

cknobman

Legend
Way too much respect. Even in the loss he is far too classy. He needs to take the path of the scum bag Federer fans. Filthy dirt bags. He needs more of that killer instinct. Dirty low down underhanded back stabbing scum.
WTF are you talking about? The Federer fans are scum in wins and losses.
And you have the nerve to call other people scum?

Your posts make you seem like a petty pathetic human being.

I pity your life.
 
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Nathaniel_Near

Guest
Djokovic does have questionable lapses in big matches as we saw in the RG and Wimbledon 2014 finals and the US 2014 semi-final recently. He's not a smooth sailing player mentally, but rather somewhat volatile. He's dealing with it well enough though to be the best player in the world clearly, and has won 2 of the last 3 Majors. It's a deficiency in his game—he isn't the most consistent player mentally and is prone to lapses in concentration. He is mentally a beast though when his back is against the wall, very often. The question of course is, why does he get himself into such positions in the first place, however he is not some Uber GOAT nor impervious to sometimes being outplayed and put in compromising positions by Jelena.
 

Pocalypse

Banned
Also, #Novak hasn't defeated #RafaelNadal in a #grandslam #match since #January2012.

#Novak has captialized from the aging #Rafael and #Roger lack of consistency and benefits from it historically.
Yes because beating a #25 year old Nadal #7 times in a row is an #aging age :roll:

When I see dumb posts like these...no wonder discussions get heated by us Novak fans.
 

Fiji

Legend
Nole won wimby last year

Nada won rg last year

Nole won ao this year


Looks like they excell at predicting rg and wimby winners...

They got rg and wimby winners rite since 2011..

Ao winner in 2011, 2012,2013 and 2015

Uso winner in 2011, 2012, 2013.
 
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Tiger8

Semi-Pro
Looool people here love making statements right after a match, emotions running high....whenever someone's wins a match over a rival, oh he's winning it all this year, domination, other player is weak, sucks. When the other player wins, exact opposite said... People need to calm down, majorly.
 
It's because fed serves lights out at times. Look had he not today on break points down, Djoko would have won. Everytime Nole got a chance, fed snuffed it out with big serves.

Nole played a good match just fed played pretty perfect game on a court that suits him. Nole had more break point chances than fed, yet fed only had two but took both.

That's hard to take being a Djoko fan and for novak himself. Similar to Karlovic match in Doha. However, it's encouraging that on a court what suits fed the best and not so Djoko, it was a close match and had 1 or 2 big points went the other way, we could easily have a different winner!
 

sportsfan1

Hall of Fame
Looool people here love making statements right after a match, emotions running high....whenever someone's wins a match over a rival, oh he's winning it all this year, domination, other player is weak, sucks. When the other player wins, exact opposite said... People need to calm down, majorly.
Good post, don't invest too much of your emotions into it. Djokovic himself was alright after the match, complementing Federer. After all, he's won the big matches - IW, Wim and WTF last year.
 

AngieB

Banned
Djokovic does have questionable lapses in big matches as we saw in the RG and Wimbledon 2014 finals and the US 2014 semi-final recently. He's not a smooth sailing player mentally, but rather somewhat volatile. He's dealing with it well enough though to be the best player in the world clearly, and has won 2 of the last 3 Majors. It's a deficiency in his game—he isn't the most consistent player mentally and is prone to lapses in concentration. He is mentally a beast though when his back is against the wall, very often. The question of course is, why does he get himself into such positions in the first place, however he is not some Uber GOAT nor impervious to sometimes being outplayed and put in compromising positions by Jelena.
#+10

#Thankyou for so #eloquently #pointing out what has been #Novak's issue for #years. His record in #grandslam #finals reveals his difficulty in the latest stages of #grandslam #events. #Mentally, he takes #walkabouts, often, before he even #steps #on-court.

Now he #struggles #defeating #Fedal which is #mind-boggling given the natura,l #historical #progression of #tennis #player. #Novak should be able to #dominate them. But #he #can't.

#PTL #JC4Ever

AngieB
 

Mkflag1

Rookie
Also, #Novak hasn't defeated #RafaelNadal in a #grandslam #match since #January2012.

#Novak has captialized from the aging #Rafael and #Roger lack of consistency and benefits from it historically.

#Just wanted to #point that out in the #event there was #anyone who wasn't #understanding.

#PTL #JC4Ever

AngieB
No, sorry, your argument is invalid. Wrong assumptions and wrong conclusions. Djokovic is, by some distance, the best player in recent years. Roger is not inconsistent, there hasn't been a player winning with such consistency at such age.

And if Djokovic hasn't beaten Rafa in recent times in a Slam is more because rafa hasn't been good enough to get to the finals. You can't beat a guy in a final if he's on a beach in Majorca or he doesn't make it past the quarters.
 

heninfan99

Talk Tennis Guru
True he does bend over for Mr.Fed. Neither played their best today but Fed hit some clutch one handers that should silence his detractors for a few nanoseconds.


I know this is just a 500 but I will never understand why Djokovic gives too much respect to Federer?

He is 2-4 against Federer in last 6 matches. Even in the two matches he won, he failed to serve out the match and made it more tense.

In 2013, Federer was below par. Accordingly, Djokovic dropped his level two notches below Federer resulting in two low quality matches.

The same thing is going on with Djok-Wawrinka. Djok crushes him in BO3 but whenever they are playing Bo5, he has the habit of stretching matches to 5th set whether Wawa is playing good or bad. No way AO 15 should have gone to 5th..This is strange...

Some players figure out the level of the opponent and accordingly raise their level, Djok does the opposite. :lol:
 
6

6-3 6-0

Guest
Fiji at full force embarrassing the good fans in our fanbase.

On topic, its the variety that hurts more than anything specially that low BH slice and IOFH combo, that's deadly. Djokovic didn't play bad today (FFS, he had 6 BPs) but Federer served out of his mind in those opportunities.
 

Djokovic2011

Bionic Poster
In spite of what the H2H records say, Djokovic seems to play much better against Nadal than Fed overall. Match ups?
Without doubt. The three things that Fed does that trouble Nole that Nadal doesn't do:

Serves fast with great precision.

Uses a lot of variety to take him out of his rhythm.

Plays very aggressive, first strike tennis.

All in all a very bad combination for Novak. In fact thinking about it now, it's remarkable that he's even been able to win 17 times against Fed over the years. A very uncomfortable match-up indeed.
 

Mainad

Bionic Poster
Federer seems to be the only player who can handle Djokovic right now with maybe Stan and Kei too!

Nadal hasn't been able to do this since 2014 FO and Murray not since 2013 Wimbledon!

Roger is enjoying an Indian Summer and, in some respects, playing better than ever even if no longer in his prime. He has that relaxed air of confidence and 'nothing now to lose' mentality of someone who has already done it all, has nothing left to prove (except that he can still do it) and treats anything else that now comes his way as just a welcome bonus!

In this mood, Roger is always going to be the most consistently dangerous threat to Novak. The world #1 is clearly going to have to be on his guard against him, constantly!
 

FreeBird

Legend
Federer seems to be the only player who can handle Djokovic right now with maybe Stan and Kei too!

Nadal hasn't been able to do this since 2014 FO and Murray not since 2013 Wimbledon!

Roger is enjoying an Indian Summer and, in some respects, playing better than ever even if no longer in his prime. He has that relaxed air of confidence and 'nothing now to lose' mentality of someone who has already done it all, has nothing left to prove (except that he can still do it) and treats anything else that now comes his way as just a welcome bonus!

In this mood, Roger is always going to be the most consistently dangerous threat to Novak. The world #1 is clearly going to have to be on his guard against him, constantly!
Novak v/s Murray at W?
 

FreeBird

Legend
Fiji at full force embarrassing the good fans in our fanbase.

On topic, its the variety that hurts more than anything specially that low BH slice and IOFH combo, that's deadly. Djokovic didn't play bad today (FFS, he had 6 BPs) but Federer served out of his mind in those opportunities.
Hey, long time no see.Busy?

Variety is definitely one of the reasons. That's why Stepanek troubles him too. But, in this case, it has more to do with mental state of Djokovic.
 

Djokovic2011

Bionic Poster
Also huge LOL@ AngieB for mocking Novak's loss today, even though she repeatedly says on here that she never "majors in minors". Has she completely forgotten that he's won 2 of the last 3 majors? :grin:
 

Pocalypse

Banned
Federer was just too good at serving it out and saving those BPs...it hurts obviously when Novak works into them. Oh and how Novak lost his serve whilst being 40-0 up...I can't find a good facepalm pic FreeBird :lol:
 

ScottleeSV

Professional
7 titles in 12 months for old man Rog! All I can say to that is; have some of that!

The Djokovic fan was right though; today came down to one or two break points. On another day, Fed loses 6-3 7-5 and everyone says he's finished lol.

Tbh, Fed needed this one more than Djoko. Am I right in thinking this now ties Fed and Nadal for '500' wins?
 
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