Djokovic's legacy truly feels fully secured after that AO win over Sinner

It was fully secured in 2023, nothing after 2023 could hurt his legacy.
he become:
- the BOAT of tennis at RG16
- the GOAT of tennis at RG21
- the slam leader of tennis at RG23
- the completely GOD of tennis at OG24 at RG

so his worst court was also the place of his and tennis greatest milestones

so RG was very speciall place to both both rafa and nole and even fed get his only CGS at RG09
 
Absolutely. What i mean is that after 2023 its a win/win scenario for him. Nothing can hurt his legacy but every big thing he does will strengthen it.
I disagree tbh, the emergence of Sinner and the media attempt to paint him as the successor to Djoko + Jannik beating him soundly in a stretch where he wasn't losing sets or getting broken did look bad.
 
Absolutely. What i mean is that after 2023 its a win/win scenario for him. Nothing can hurt his legacy but every big thing he does will strengthen it.
the only main record that he can lose before his retirement is W% that can go to rafa.
 
I disagree tbh, the emergence of Sinner and the media attempt to paint him as the successor to Djoko + Jannik beating him soundly in a stretch where he wasn't losing sets or getting broken did look bad.
Age is on his side though, you cant really take away anything from a player at 37y losing to a peak young ATG.
 
Dont think nole cares too much about that though. Last big goal was OG, and of course he is dreaming of that #25
nole is perfectionist and he cares about ALL main records. and W% is one of them. we will see he can lose that one but not have to do. and he can still gain and accomplish many things and milestones! but what ever he do his GOAT status is bulletproof!
 
But Federer’s legacy is not secure and apparently he will be forgotten as per Nolefam . Didn’t Federer beat Djokovic at YEC in straight sets at age 38 with sets not even going to 5 games for Novak ??
 
But Federer’s legacy is not secure and apparently he will be forgotten as per Nolefam . Didn’t Federer beat Djokovic at YEC in straight sets at age 38 with sets not even going to 5 games for Novak ??
History will remember Federer as worthy opponent of Nadal and Novak.
All this beautiful play and artistry will be forgotten and only cold numbers will remain to tell the story.
BUT
I do not think federer has any regret . He hogged all the sunshine when he was active player. 2 decades of being best player playing is satisfaction enough.
And somebody can talk about bank balance.
 
History will remember Federer as worthy opponent of Nadal and Novak.
All this beautiful play and artistry will be forgotten and only cold numbers will remain to tell the story.
BUT
I do not think federer has any regret . He hogged all the sunshine when he was active player. 2 decades of being best player playing is satisfaction enough.
And somebody can talk about bank balance.

In the life after tennis , Federer once again will rule . We all work towards reaping benefits of work when we retire . It will hurt for Novak to see he is worth one third when he has more accomplishments
 
Never beating " post-puke " Sinner would have been the only stain on his resume. Now he has significant wins over BOTH ATGs 14+ years younger than him.

That match was truly such a miracle every time I rewatch it. The more Sinner farms wins, the better it looks.
He followed up the Sinner victory with a first set demolition of Alcaraz.
Two sets away from standing alone in tennis history with #25.
But, sadly, ran out of gas.

Our Djoker could have dropped the mic at #25 and retired happily ever after.

And every shameless Djoker basher on this hapless forum, living in denial of his GOATness, would have been forced to bow down to the King.

 
He followed up the Sinner victory with a first set demolition of Alcaraz.
Two sets away from standing alone in tennis history with #25.
But, sadly, ran out of gas.

Our Djoker could have dropped the mic at #25 and retired happily ever after.

And every shameless Djoker basher on this hapless forum, living in denial of his GOATness, would have been forced to bow down to the King.


Ah, they are shameless for a reason...
 
Never beating " post-puke " Sinner would have been the only stain on his resume. Now he has significant wins over BOTH ATGs 14+ years younger than him.

That match was truly such a miracle every time I rewatch it. The more Sinner farms wins, the better it looks.
That will be Jannick's biggest sin in his career.
:X3:
 
Never beating " post-puke " Sinner would have been the only stain on his resume. Now he has significant wins over BOTH ATGs 14+ years younger than him.

That match was truly such a miracle every time I rewatch it. The more Sinner farms wins, the better it looks.
Copium is strong
 
It didn’t really “secure it” as Novak’s legacy was secured well before that. It just was a gentle reminder that Novak is the GOAT and should never be counted out, regardless of age.
 
In the life after tennis , Federer once again will rule . We all work towards reaping benefits of work when we retire . It will hurt for Novak to see he is worth one third when he has more accomplishments
lol how shamelessly you jump on that canard of money/fame copying Razer. That was never even on your mind before he brought it up but now you see it as a welcomed reasoning to undermine Djokovic.
 
All the Big 3’s legacies were secure long before they reached their mid 30s. Don’t listen to trolls

It didn’t really “secure it” as Novak’s legacy was secured well before that. It just was a gentle reminder that Novak is the GOAT and should never be counted out, regardless of age.
I don't think you guys understand that as long as Novak is still playing, his legacy will still be evolving.
 
lol how shamelessly you jump on that canard of money/fame copying Razer. That was never even on your mind before he brought it up but now you see it as a welcomed reasoning to undermine Djokovic.

I don’t know why it bothers you that we talk about Federer’s iconic status and brand value .

You already made it known that you only care about tennis records and not how the player influenced the sport.

So please move past it if this doesn’t interest you
 
Secured legacy but easily forgotten . Ok.

Nope. A secured legacy is not about who remembers, it is about achievements.

But they will be forgotten, especially those that don't own any records that future generations will chase.
 
Secured legacy but easily forgotten . Ok.
Djokovic will be like Lendl. The forgotten ATG of his era, and its the exact same reason, too many big losses against his great rivals in big matches when all at their peaks. Lendl's stats were better than mcEnroe and Connors, but the bulk of those stats came post prime McEnroe and Connors. Early 80's he lost most of the Slam amtches against them. Djokovic is in that same boat.
 
Djokovic will be like Lendl. The forgotten ATG of his era, and its the exact same reason, too many big losses against his great rivals in big matches when all at their peaks. Lendl's stats were better than mcEnroe and Connors, but the bulk of those stats came post prime McEnroe and Connors. Early 80's he lost most of the Slam amtches against them. Djokovic is in that same boat.

You can see how hard the Nolefam is at work because the 11-7 bothers me so much . Why cannot they be in peace that Novak has the slam record and just let other folks enjoy the success of their idol?
 
Nope. A secured legacy is not about who remembers, it is about achievements.

But they will be forgotten, especially those that don't own any records that future generations will chase.

Yes, right. Federer will be forgotten. And you will be there as witness.
 
History will remember Federer as worthy opponent of Nadal and Novak.
All this beautiful play and artistry will be forgotten and only cold numbers will remain to tell the story.
BUT
I do not think federer has any regret . He hogged all the sunshine when he was active player. 2 decades of being best player playing is satisfaction enough.
And somebody can talk about bank balance.
the most people still rank fed about rafa. i think them are equal. both has some very important thing over each othe, slams are not all that matter. probable not even most valuable stat.
 
He followed up the Sinner victory with a first set demolition of Alcaraz.
Two sets away from standing alone in tennis history with #25.
But, sadly, ran out of gas.

Our Djoker could have dropped the mic at #25 and retired happily ever after.

And every shameless Djoker basher on this hapless forum, living in denial of his GOATness, would have been forced to bow down to the King.

no, if owning as good as ALL main records by some significant margin with a lot of other great milestones is not enough nothing would be. one additional slam would not change it. it will always be some flat earthers in all areas of our life.
 
Djokovic got 2 walkovers before facing Sinner, so no, his legacy is not secure like that, Sinner has nothing to worry about.

Secondly, Djokovic has never beaten Alcaraz in a grand slam final and a 20 year old baby alcaraz beat Djokovic, sorry, Djoko does not get any marks over youngsters.
 
Novak secured his legacy in 2011, after that he only upgraded it.

The victory over Sinner on the AO is just one of the many confirmations that he is the greatest tennis player of all time, only GOAT can perform such a feat that at the age of 38 you beat ATG, 14 years younger, the best player on hard, in 5 sets after a 2:1 deficit.
 
Enhanced, not secured. But I get your point. Although there are some clowns that want us to believe Sinner tanked that match :-D :X3:
 
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