Do doubles players get respect at your club?

travlerajm said:
Crossover thread breaking news:

Long-time TTW forum poaster and frequent-playing usta 5.0c male texted me this morning to proudly report that his doubles UTR has dipped to the 3.5 lady range with 100% reliability rating.
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That's just kind of randomly blurting out things. It's not really a crossover to this thread. Better to blurt it out in the mixed doubles thread or your My UTR is going crazy thread.
 
travlerajm said:
I see your TR rating has been rising in last several years. Nice!
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acutally, dropping 50 probably had the biggest impact :P

yet another weight loss thread...

keeping myself accountable by telling anyone willing to listen :p anyone want to join me? method: calorie counting (via myfitnesspal iphone app) exercise (tennis, walk/run, gymnastic body weight exercises) 1500 net calories = caloriesIn - caloriesOut (exercise) intermittent fasting (last meal...
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nyta2 said:
acutally, dropping 50 probably had the biggest impact :p

yet another weight loss thread...

keeping myself accountable by telling anyone willing to listen :p anyone want to join me? method: calorie counting (via myfitnesspal iphone app) exercise (tennis, walk/run, gymnastic body weight exercises) 1500 net calories = caloriesIn - caloriesOut (exercise) intermittent fasting (last meal...
tt.tennis-warehouse.com tt.tennis-warehouse.com
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Every extra lb = -0.01 ntrp.
 
nyta2 said:
acutally, dropping 50 probably had the biggest impact :p

yet another weight loss thread...

keeping myself accountable by telling anyone willing to listen :p anyone want to join me? method: calorie counting (via myfitnesspal iphone app) exercise (tennis, walk/run, gymnastic body weight exercises) 1500 net calories = caloriesIn - caloriesOut (exercise) intermittent fasting (last meal...
tt.tennis-warehouse.com tt.tennis-warehouse.com
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now that is respect … crazy respect ... (y)

Of course living longer means more ttw :unsure:
 
ByeByePoly said:
I’m going to give you credit for the college tennis part. ;)
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Let's revisit my college days.
Well, let's revisit my HS days as well.
Well, ok let's revisit the past entirely.

I started playing tennis at 8. I got lessons at 10, and had a coach all the way from 6th grade through HS and college. By the time I got to college I had 8 years of coaching.
I was a natural at serving. Since the 8th grade(11yrs old for us Europeans), I could hit the ball as hard as I could and it just went in. I was 5'10" already.
Once in HS, I never met anyone who could hit their forehand harder until I went to college.
Once I got to college, I was great at keeping the games short, which was an advantage when you are second or third doubles.
In HS and college, we all had to play doubles, and we all had to be good at it. You HAD to win your doubles to win the match.
A few very skilled players spent most of their time in singles depending on how must wrestling the coach could do with the roster.
So loads of us played loads of tennis at every engagement.

If you watch(ed) college tennis, you will see badasses like JJ Wolf, etc playing singles and doubles. In fact, many ex college pros love pro doubles, and often beat higher ranked pros.



Now then... where I think the doubles stigma comes from is people who take it up late in life, get some coaching, get a bit of pride from some USTA play, and then join a club.
That's where maybe they find out most of the people in the club play doubles, and are social players. Well, it's called a club for a reason. It's as much to do with like-minded people as tennis.

So, when I hear of folks talking about not respecting doubles, I usually see people who think they have some tennis skills, who arrived at the game later in life, have no HS or college experience, maybe they got a 4.5 USTA rating, have never in their lives played the likes of a college player, and think for some reason they are hot stuff. It's a bit on the pathetic side of things, if you ask me.
 
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socallefty said:
At my tennis club in SoCal, players who play exclusively 4.5/5.0 doubles don’t get as much respect as those who also play singles. It is because there are a lot of players at those levels (usually ex-college players) who excel at both singles and doubles. To get more respect, you have to be willing to play singles with the double-digit UTR rated juniors who train at the club academy and/or enroll in the Open tournaments we host frequently. It is Open level rec tennis without the limits of USTA-defined ratings leagues where you can be a national champion in USTA 3.5/4.0 leagues, but get your ass kicked every time at club events. The hierarchy of rating player caliber is like the pros where the best singles players are considered the best players.

Is it the same at your club where doubles only players don’t get considered amongst the best players at the club?
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socal

i guess you are at a high level club.
at our club, we have some juniors that are 5.0 players, but the highest adult league players are 4.5

since i a much lower, when i play singles with friends, people give us a strange look like, "why are you playing singles?"
no one plays singles at our club except for juniors.
i would say 90% of the adults play doubles.

league captains will complain, they dont have any singles players.

i use to fill in league, when the captain would have to default a line of singles, because no one would play

z
 
WYK said:
Let's revisit my college days.
Well, let's revisit my HS days as well.
Well, ok let's revisit the past entirely.

I started playing tennis at 8. I got lessons at 10, and had a coach all the way through HS and college. By the time I got to college I had 8 years of coaching.
I was a natural at serving. Since the 8th grade(11yrs old for us Europeans), I could hit the ball as hard as I could and it just went in. I was 5'10" already.
Once in HS, I never met anyone who could hit their forehand harder until I went to college.
Once I got to college, I was great at keeping the games short, which was an advantage when you are second or third doubles.
In HS and college, we all had to play doubles, and we all had to be good at it. You HAD to win your doubles to win the match.
A few very skilled players spent most of their time in singles depending on how must wrestling the coach could do with the roster.
So loads of us played loads of tennis at every engagement.

If you watch(ed) college tennis, you will see badasses like JJ Wolf, etc playing singles and doubles. In fact, many ex college pros love pro doubles, and often beat higher ranked pros.



Now then... where I think the doubles stigma comes from is people who take it up late in life, get some coaching, get a bit of pride from some USTA play, and then join a club.
That's where maybe they find out most of the people in the club play doubles, and are social players. Well, it's called a club for a reason. It's as much to do with like-minded people as tennis.

So, when I hear of folks talking about not respecting doubles, I usually see people who think they have some tennis skills, who arrived at the game later in life, have no HS or college experience, maybe they got a 4.5 USTA rating, have never in their lives played the likes of a college player, and think for some reason they are hot stuff. It's a bit on the pathetic side of things, if you ask me.
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Are you mad at me … you know I’m kidding right? I do that. 8-B ;)

My favorite tennis memories are my 4.5 singles tournaments in my 20s. I made it to a top 4.5 singles player in the state by 25-27ish … no coaching, never had a coach. Worked very hard for that … didn’t come easy ... probably why my main love of tennis was singles.

But that was 10-15 years of my tennis … next 30+ primarily USTA 4.5 doubles … took that serious also, got my tennis and competition fix.
 
WYK said:
So, when I hear of folks talking about not respecting doubles, I usually see people who think they have some tennis skills, who arrived at the game later in life, have no HS or college experience, maybe they got a 4.5 USTA rating, have never in their lives played the likes of a college player, and think for some reason they are hot stuff. It's a bit on the pathetic side of things, if you ask me.
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No, playing college tennis doesn't matter much, doubles is still not thought of as the same by those who are ex college players. Respect is a stronger word than it is, but all that was covered above.
 
Max G. said:
Yes, there are exactly two skill levels in tennis.
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Pretty much

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WYK said:
Let's revisit my college days.
Well, let's revisit my HS days as well.
Well, ok let's revisit the past entirely.

I started playing tennis at 8. I got lessons at 10, and had a coach all the way from 6th grade through HS and college. By the time I got to college I had 8 years of coaching.
I was a natural at serving. Since the 8th grade(11yrs old for us Europeans), I could hit the ball as hard as I could and it just went in. I was 5'10" already.
Once in HS, I never met anyone who could hit their forehand harder until I went to college.
Once I got to college, I was great at keeping the games short, which was an advantage when you are second or third doubles.
In HS and college, we all had to play doubles, and we all had to be good at it. You HAD to win your doubles to win the match.
A few very skilled players spent most of their time in singles depending on how must wrestling the coach could do with the roster.
So loads of us played loads of tennis at every engagement.

If you watch(ed) college tennis, you will see badasses like JJ Wolf, etc playing singles and doubles. In fact, many ex college pros love pro doubles, and often beat higher ranked pros.



Now then... where I think the doubles stigma comes from is people who take it up late in life, get some coaching, get a bit of pride from some USTA play, and then join a club.
That's where maybe they find out most of the people in the club play doubles, and are social players. Well, it's called a club for a reason. It's as much to do with like-minded people as tennis.

So, when I hear of folks talking about not respecting doubles, I usually see people who think they have some tennis skills, who arrived at the game later in life, have no HS or college experience, maybe they got a 4.5 USTA rating, have never in their lives played the likes of a college player, and think for some reason they are hot stuff. It's a bit on the pathetic side of things, if you ask me.
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Wow, just watched the sinner video. There's no way either of those two teams can make it deep in a tournament like IW. So many easy volleys, especially BH side that aren't put away but just stabbed at. Same w poaches that aren't put away, but just leave the court open. Sinner, in particular, floats volleys just waiting to be crushed. Top doubles teams would eat these guys alive. It's clear that they're singles players playing doubles.

Edit: just checked, wolf and giron got smoked next round by heliovaara/glasspool 2 and 3.
 
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