Do not feel bad for Zverev

kishnabe

Talk Tennis Guru
Murray was agressive with his forehands when he won those 3 slams. Ivan Lendl did not allow passive forehands.

Murray stopped having his 2nd serves like Sara Errani serves.
 

nolefam_2024

Bionic Poster
Only those who buy into the "man can do no wrong / its his right" abuse BS that is poisoning the world. I've seen more character judgements about Djokovic--who has not beat a woman--than Zverev who is guilty of the assault.

Almost no one says it's mans right to beat up a woman. This is not a real thing in life.
 

fedfan24

Hall of Fame
It’s all in his head. Earlier in the tournament he was crushing the FH for easy winners. Failed to punish Alcaraz moonballs because he played scared from that side.
 

KantenKlaar

Hall of Fame
Only those who buy into the "man can do no wrong / its his right" abuse BS that is poisoning the world. I've seen more character judgements about Djokovic--who has not beat a woman--than Zverev who is guilty of the assault.
Slandering Zverev does not say much about your charactèr
 

Knife

Professional
A player like Zverev has been slamless till now because his forehand is very passive. Even Andy Murray won just 3 slams because of his weak fh.

Today from the baseline, Zverev hit 4 FH winners in over 4 hrs. That's 1 FH winner from the ground in more than an hr.

Boris Becker once said a player can't wait for his opponent's mistake in grand slam final. Zverev's problem today is the same as its been all his life. He can't buy a forehand with all the money he got. Let it be a lesson for him next time in big matches.

The thing is he used to hit amazing forehands. Somewhere in time he lost confidence in it. It’s all mental.

Usually, Zviraffes fh is good enough until it commes to pressure points. From there it let's him down together with the serve...
 

Arak

Legend
Usually, Zviraffes fh is good enough until it commes to pressure points. From there it let's him down together with the serve...
True enough. His serve let him down during the final of RG in a spectacular way. I remember his OG match against Djokovic though. He was shooting missiles with his FH, which I definitely attribute to overcoming his fear after losing the first set.
 

tennis24x7

Hall of Fame
I don't know if even best backhand can ever make up for a pretty mediocre fh.

Andy Murray had amazing backhand, he went 3-8 in slam finals.
Andys problem was in his head, nothing to do with BH or FH. He has hit one of the fastest FHs in the ATP. He was just soft, didn't have a strong father figure.
 

nolefam_2024

Bionic Poster
Andys problem was in his head, nothing to do with BH or FH. He has hit one of the fastest FHs in the ATP. He was just soft, didn't have a strong father figure.
Please don't make ridiculous claims based on some 1 or 2 shots here and there.

Andy was built like a boxer but his fh was never big. His average fh lagged Rafole by 5 mph.
 

bluetrain4

G.O.A.T.
In the second set he hit his forehand aggressively with confidence. He CAN hit a huge forehands and it can be a weapon, but he couldn't keep it up and often doesn't.
 

CHillTennis

Hall of Fame
Trust me, I don't feel badly for a guy that has strangled his girlfriend.

More than one of them, for that matter.

Beater is a piece of work (to put it nicely.)
 
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