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I see it as the opposite, we might see another 15 minute lull followed by domination just like last night in round 3 vs a tired opponent. Then when the opponents get more difficult the injury will disappear.
I see it as the opposite, we might see another 15 minute lull followed by domination just like last night in round 3 vs a tired opponent. Then when the opponents get more difficult the injury will disappear.
And you claiming yesterday that you are a Federer fan wasn't a lie?You are a complete disgrace. You continue to lie and post fake stories? Mcenroe Brothers never said he was faking.
And you claiming yesterday that you are a Federer fan wasn't a lie?
Not anymore. I was devastated last night, I have turned out broadcast after Londero broke him in 2nd set and went to bed. First thing this morning - grabbed my phone to check resultDo you feel as nervous about the injury as you did last night?
You don't understand
So you think this is serious, and will slow him down against better opponents?
I see it as the opposite, we might see another 15 minute lull followed by domination just like last night in round 3 vs a tired opponent. Then when the opponents get more difficult the injury will disappear.
You will run out of smileys the way you are using them.And you claiming yesterday that you are a Federer fan wasn't a lie?
Yeah, the one thing I do like about Djoker (not many) is his perseverance. I do think there was pain last night in his shoulder, but I just think he will manage it well and be just fine as the USO progresses. He sure did it last night in dominant form besides about 15 minutes.Not anymore. I was devastated last night, I have turned out broadcast after Londero broke him in 2nd set and went to bed. First thing this morning - grabbed my phone to check result
That made me think I am too much into it.
Your assuming the shoulder "injury" is serious. I don't.What you mention is a paradox:
If he is really injured when he faces an opponent with much more level than Londero it would mean that he would take him to the limits and if we consider that the physical effort is already demanding in itself in the final rounds of a Grand Slam, if we add to that a Physical condition with parts of the body with a lot of pain is IMPOSSIBLE that the injury disappears and the player starts playing better.
Hence the contradiction and lack of logic in what you mention.
What do you think it can be? What kind of injury?Your assuming the shoulder "injury" is serious. I don't.
So you think this is serious, and will slow him down against better opponents?
He is perfectionist, any coach that was in contact with him will say that. If something bothers him (like clay storm at FO) he destroys his level for some time until he gets used to situation. Against good player that dip in performance is not allowed and he losses match.Yeah, the one thing I do like about Djoker (not many) is his perseverance. I do think there was pain last night in his shoulder, but I just think he will manage it well and be just fine as the USO progresses. He sure did it last night in dominant form besides about 15 minutes.
I don't know, maybe it is serious. But it does not look serious when you dominate like he did after the 15 minute injury spell.What do you think it can be? What kind of injury?
A shoulder is a joint and it’s not like getting a stiff back muscles. At least I haven’t heard about an only 15 min intense injury and pain ever before.
Did I say fake? He is not faking it, there would be no reason. I just wonder at how serious it is going forward. I have twisted my knee a couple times and thought I tore something, then 15 minutes later it feels fine.I don't know if it's serious, but he definitely feels discomfort to the point where it affects his game. There is no Logical reason behind why he would fake it in the 2nd round. Just stop with these stupid theories.
If it’s a chronic injury which I think it is, it goes worse with a lot of time on court. Maybe he had some instant relief in the MTO and he could pull it through. But if he shows no further signs of having problems w that joint (in fact a very complicated joint and problematic for recovery, just as w knees) I have to say it’s hard to believe he has an injury. It’s no such thing as a 15 min shoulder injury. But I do believe him so therefor I think it’s chronic.I don't know, maybe it is serious. But it does not look serious when you dominate like he did after the 15 minute injury spell.
What serious injury are you able to get right back in form after 15 minutes?
Did I say fake? He is not faking it, there would be no reason. I just wonder at how serious it is going forward. I have twisted my knee a couple times and thought I tore something, then 15 minutes later it feels fine.
I just think he can "manage" whatever this
Yes, I agree. We just will have to wait to see in the next few rounds. The question is if it can get worse. If it can, then that is not good. But if it is just a nuance, then he will figure out how to "manage" it.We have to wait and see. But if he is playing with pain where he can't serve at his best or hit a BH as well as he can (djokovic siad yesterday these two parts is whats affecting him) then his chances are very low. Its not good at all.
Why do you put the word "manage" in quotes as if I was wrong to use that word? Are you trying to insult me?Yes, I agree. We just will have to wait to see in the next few rounds. The question is if it can get worse. If it can, then that is not good. But if it is just a nuance, then he will figure out how to "manage" it.
Exactly right. That is why Nadal did NOT even come close to winning a set in AO 2019 Final.
Also that is why Nadal has not beaten Novak outside of clay since 6 YEARS.
Do you think that in all those matches Novak was playing his A game?
Nadal is an even bigger underdog against Djokovic than Federer is. At least Fed had Match points in Wimbledon.
Lmao....the McEnroe clowns are Federer worshippers.Both McEnroe brothers said he was faking, and aren’t bitter fans of rival fan bases. They were present at the match and had their own opinions.
Spot on...and if she was a Nadal fan would have been banned by now for such trolls and lies...on another thread she says kyrgios is white!!!!You are a complete disgrace. You continue to lie and post fake stories? Mcenroe Brothers never said he was faking.
He has won 2 Majors...its not really a killer for him if he goes out. Same for Nadal..both have had a good year. All the pressure on Federer.LMAO if you know djokovic a little you can tell he kinda knows he prob will not be going all the way. His comments on "keeping positive" "hoping he gets some luck" "hoping with therapy the pain will go away by next match" etc etc. He is just going give it a go and if he gets knocked out he is ready.
I assume you are joking?Why do you put the word "manage" in quotes as if I was wrong to use that word? Are you trying to insult me?
No, I'm being serious. I replied to one of your posts in another thread and said Djokovic can manage the injury, and then I start seeing you use the word "manage" in quotes. As if it is not the right word to use. Not the first time someone has done this with me.I assume you are joking?
Do you think that Nadal was playing his A (or even B) game in any of those matches Seriously man Joker racked up 7 wins against 2015-2016 Nadal (aka the worst he has ever played Nadal). 2017 Joker would have been slaughtered by Fedal, but he couldn't even make it to them.Exactly right. That is why Nadal did NOT even come close to winning a set in AO 2019 Final.
Also that is why Nadal has not beaten Novak outside of clay since 6 YEARS.
Do you think that in all those matches Novak was playing his A game?
Nadal is an even bigger underdog against Djokovic than Federer is. At least Fed had Match points in Wimbledon.
No, I actually must have missed your quote, I just saw it now. I was quoting it as in to say he might need to manage it or he might not depending on the severity. I was not taking a shot at you or anyone. I, and everyone else here has no clue how serious it is or is not. That is why I say "manage" because it might be hard to do, or easy.No, I'm being serious. I replied to one of your posts in another thread and said Djokovic can manage the injury, and then I start seeing you use the word "manage" in quotes. As if it is not the right word to use. Not the first time someone has done this with me.
Fully agreed! Great year for both. Fed has to win this. If nadal does feds record is toast. Also i do not think djokovic will get past 20. I figured 16-18 and still sticking to that right now.He has won 2 Majors...its not really a killer for him if he goes out. Same for Nadal..both have had a good year. All the pressure on Federer.
Well you'd have to concede that if Djokovic does go on to win this USO, he was indeed faking, no? Else how could he win with such an injury? Would you be implying Djokovic with such a serious injury is better than Nadal and Federer playing well? Especially after Djokovic was down match points to the old man a few months ago. Thus, if Djokovic wins USO19 = him faking.
I'm not really a Djokovic fan so i'm not trying to defend him but what would be his motivation for faking an injury and hitting much weaker backhands and serves than he normally does against Londero in r2? I can understand the criticism in that AO final against Murray where he looked dead at some point and was flying on the court the rest of the match but I don't see a valid reason for him to fake it at the USO r2, yet I see a lot of people accusing him of faking it.
If Djokovic wins OG he for me ties Rafa for GOAT maybe even surpasses him. OG would mean Djokovic has won literally all there is to win. Nobody else would have done that. He already planning for tokyo. He is playing there after USO this year.Yes a player purposefully drops 7mph on his ave
Fully agreed! Great year for both. Fed has to win this. If nadal does feds record is toast. Also i do not think djokovic will get past 20. I figured 16-18 and still sticking to that right now.
But what does asstrollogy say?If he was really injured, he won't risk further injury by continue playing.
Fake!
Looked like faking to me. He was in total pain while down 3-0 in the 2nd and then out of nowhere he started lasering backhands to the corners. I am sorry if you are in that kind of pain strokes don't get better.I'm not really a Djokovic fan so i'm not trying to defend him but what would be his motivation for faking an injury and hitting much weaker backhands and serves than he normally does against Londero in r2? I can understand the criticism in that AO final against Murray where he looked dead at some point and was flying on the court the rest of the match but I don't see a valid reason for him to fake it at the USO r2, yet I see a lot of people accusing him of faking it.
how many times have they played off clay in those 6 years? Last year at wimbledon Nadal was 1 point from beating him.Exactly right. That is why Nadal did NOT even come close to winning a set in AO 2019 Final.
Also that is why Nadal has not beaten Novak outside of clay since 6 YEARS.
Do you think that in all those matches Novak was playing his A game?
Nadal is an even bigger underdog against Djokovic than Federer is. At least Fed had Match points in Wimbledon.
5*how many times have they played off clay in those 6 years? Last year at wimbledon Nadal was 1 point from beating him.
Why does Djokovic get crap for something like this but Delpo does the exact same **** and gets nothing?