Do we have a player among next gen/new gen whose forehand is at least anywhere near the level of that of the big-3?

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seriously it is difficult to imagine a multi-slam future ATG who cannot hit forehands as well as any of the current big 3......what are your thoughts?

for some reason pretty much all the rising youngsters seem to be deficient in that area......there is a glaring lack of confidence and authority in that shot which is supposed to be their best actually......

it would be interesting to know if any of the modern coaching methods have ruined the forehand stroke in men’s tennis......
 
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Rublev has a YUGE, MAMMOTH, EPIC forehand. He doesn't have much of any kind of variety with it... But he certainly lacks neither confidence nor authority with it. When he is on, which is sadly all too rarely the case, he can absolutely own guys with it.
 
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ibbi said:
Rublev has a YUGE, MAMMOTH, EPIC forehand. He doesn't have much of any kind of variety with it... But he certainly lacks neither confidence nor authority with it. When he is on, which is sadly all too rarely the case, he can absolutely own guys with it.
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Agree with that.
 
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Tsisipas has a lot of Fed's game, but doesn't have his killer forehand. Thiem has big topspin FH, but not as big as Nadal in his prime. But Thiem's BH is better than Nadal's. No promising next-gen player resembles Djokovic. Maybe Djokovic's game is not so easily imitated, after all!

Tsisipas also has Fed's BH shanks down to a T!
 
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Zoid

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Thiem's is the closest and tsitsipas is good - the problem isn't that they lack a great forehand. No one has the full package: shots, movement, mentality. The big 3 have all 3, the nextgen only have 2/3.
 
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Rublev has so much game as someone above said. He just hasn't figured out how to control it.
Tsits is probably the real answer.
Shap's FH is super fun, but every bit as wild as Rublev.
 
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Casper Ruuds FH.
Not even joking. Not As good as Rafas, (Rafa FH been top notch in Mexico), but maybe at this point not far, maybe even equal to Fed and Novak’s.
Caspers FH is insane. It’s so good he doesn’t need to develop it anymore, it’s other parts of his game he needs to do that.
 
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Shapo desperately needs a professional coach, on almost every shot he's off balance. It's probably too late now, bad habits formed at a young age are tough to break. A great athlete like him should be on balance before, during and after every shot.
 
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it's amazing how many people are fooled into thinking tsitsipas has a great forehand........it's a **** poor shot when he is up against the big 3.......he is merely rolling them into the court these days.......

all i am asking is for a consistent forehand with adequate meat in the shot, heck gonzalez and some of fed's pigeons had better forehands compared to these jokes........apart from thiem, i don't like anyone's forehand........forehand is supposed to be THE shot for a men's player and it's sad to see how poor some of these players are at that shot in relative terms to big-3 forehands........nadal is nothing without his forehand, that's how important that shot is to him........

you just don't feel the punch in the forehands of the following players,

tsitsi
meddy
felix
khachanov
zverev
shapovalov (plays mostly dumb tennis and covers it up with once in a while fancy backhands)

and the list goes on.......i am not impressed with the forehands of the new gen........what has changed from the past? coaching? why does khachanov have to make such weird movements to hit a forehand?
 
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ibbi said:
Rublev has a YUGE, MAMMOTH, EPIC forehand. He doesn't have much of any kind of variety with it... But he certainly lacks neither confidence nor authority with it. When he is on, which is sadly all too rarely the case, he can absolutely own guys with it.
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i am not impressed with him either.......
 
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Zoid said:
Thiem's is the closest and tsitsipas is good - the problem isn't that they lack a great forehand. No one has the full package: shots, movement, mentality. The big 3 have all 3, the nextgen only have 2/3.
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yeah, that's another problem but first they got to figure a way to develop massive forehands........the rest will flow from there........you know it's a man's shot.......the pride and confidence you derive from hitting forehands is unmatched by any other shot in tennis........you basically end the point whenever you want with that shot........
 
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TheGhostOfAgassi said:
Casper Ruuds FH.
Not even joking. Not As good as Rafas, (Rafa FH been top notch in Mexico), but maybe at this point not far, maybe even equal to Fed and Novak’s.
Caspers FH is insane. It’s so good he doesn’t need to develop it anymore, it’s other parts of his game he needs to do that.
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He looked very good at Houston last year. Really solid game!
 
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It's not so much about the FH stroke itself, but more about the footwork in setting it up. The top 3 are head and shoulders above the rest in this.
 
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Zoid

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yeah, that's another problem but first they got to figure a way to develop massive forehands........the rest will flow from there........you know it's a man's shot.......the pride and confidence you derive from hitting forehands is unmatched by any other shot in tennis........you basically end the point whenever you want with that shot........
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Fairly certain Thiem has always had a massive forehand. It doesnt flow from the forehand.

Athleticism allows > movement and great shots > builds confidence/mental toughness. I genuinely don't think we have athletes in the calibre of fed/novak/rafa.

Tsitsi and thiem and med are good, but they don't have the jaw-dropping end range capabilities, the endurance, or the mental fortitude yet the big 3 possess.
 
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