Do we need any more proof that why Nadal beats Federer is because Nadal plays lefty?

CDestroyer said:
What are the 2HBH weaknesses? And Tsonga is not switching to a 1HBH. By the way I play a 1HBH. Couldn't hit a 2HBH if I had to. Feels backwards somehow.
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:lol: There's a whole thread on the 1 vs 2hbh - good fun guaranteed if you go through it.

Breakpoint is actually Roger in person, as you'll come to learn in that thread :)
Funny enough he's suspecting someone here of being Nadal!!
 
veroniquem said:
Federer can spank 2011 Djokovic? :shock:
Not that often apparently given that he lost 4 matches out of 5 to him this year (most of them in masters and slams). If we're not talking about this year, then Nadal still has a leading head to head vs Djoko which Fed NEVER had against Rafa. Not for 1 day.
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Federer did beat Djokovic on clay in 2011. Nadal can't say that. Has Nadal beaten Djokovic this year by the way?
 
SoBad said:
Nadal owns Federer because he is the far superior tennis player. It really is that simple people. Not because Nadal is left-handed, stronger, better-looking, has far more class, etc. etc. All those things are true, but not the reason why Nadal always beats Federer. Repeat after me - great Nadal is a much better tennis player than overrated Federer.
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Ye ye ye, don't forget the butt-picking - besides being a knock-out hunk that's also why Ralph is the most superior, no? Most biutiful too.

Happy trolling.
 
marcub said:
Ye ye ye, don't forget the butt-picking - besides being a knock-out hunk that's also why Ralph is the most superior, no? Most biutiful too.

Happy trolling.
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Thank you for your input. Will you be requiring psychiatric assistance this evening?
 
SoBad said:
Nadal is on alternate year schedule. He uses even years for wins and odd years for rest. Strong 2008, rest 2009, great 2010, rest 2011, get the picture? Spinning serves into the middle of the box at 60mph in the US Open final is rest, not winning. 2012 could be a golden calendar year slam for great Nadal! Although guys like Golubev, Donskoy, and Dolgopolov are certainly starting to knock on the door.
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That's why Federer is the GOAT and Nadal never will be because Federer is able to maintain a high level for 4 years in a row ('04-'07) while Nadal can only maintain a high level for one year in a row. :oops:
 
veroniquem said:
Federer can spank 2011 Djokovic? :shock:
Not that often apparently given that he lost 4 matches out of 5 to him this year (most of them in masters and slams). If we're not talking about this year, then Nadal still has a leading head to head vs Djoko which Fed NEVER had against Rafa. Not for 1 day.
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And how many times has Nadal lost to Djokovic this year? How many times has he beaten Djokovic in 2011? And how many of those losses were in finals? And how many were in Slams or Masters? But more importantly, how many match points has Nadal had on Djokovic this year? :oops:
 
Crazy man said:
Federer did beat Djokovic on clay in 2011. Nadal can't say that. Has Nadal beaten Djokovic this year by the way?
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Once out of 5 times. Big deal. It could have been a Djoko day off, a 1 out of a million perfect match from Fed. Whatever. You can't draw stats from 1 match when one has lost all 4 other matches to same player. + no one knows if Djoko would have beaten Rafa at RG. RG has a slower clay like Monte-Carlo. And there is no proof Djoko would have beaten Rafa there. Fed lost all the matches he played vs Djoko on his best surface: hard court (2 in slams) and he was too bad on his other best surface (grass) to even get to Djoko.
So, it's a far cry to use that one victory to draw any kind of conclusions as to Fed's "domination" of Djoko. He's not dominating anything. He just happened to play Djoko in his worst event, an event where he lost to Kohl and Melzer in the 2 previous editions. We all saw what happened when Fed played Djoko in any other event than that one.
(+ that 1 victory over Djoko didn't even enable Fed to win the slam. He still lost in the final. At least Rafa can win the event if Djoko is out of the way. Fed cannot win period Djoko or not. Because there are other top players who can beat him).
 
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BreakPoint said:
And how many times has Nadal lost to Djokovic this year? How many times has he beaten Djokovic in 2011? And how many of those losses were in finals? And how many were in Slams or Masters? But more importantly, how many match points has Nadal had on Djokovic this year? :oops:
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Both Fed and Nadal have been dominated by Djokovic this year. If that is your point, I can certainly agree with it.
 
SoBad said:
Unwinding a bit sounds like a fantastic idea! What did you have in mind – watching Nadal adjust his underwear on youtube frame by frame?:lol:
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Don't be afraid to call it by name, son, it's butt-picking :lol:
Why, it doesn't go well with your idol?

Happy trolling.
 
SoBad said:
Unwinding a bit sounds like a fantastic idea! What did you have in mind – watching Nadal adjust his underwear on youtube frame by frame?:lol:
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How are you, ya, Sobad? I went to tennis court today after 6 for one hour (120 balls). You have a new signature again. Can I ask you some questions priviately?
 
BreakPoint said:
Nadal's lefty massive, high-bouncing, topspin crosscourt forehand to Federer's one-handed backhand has always been a major headache for Federer. However, that same shot to Djokovic is ineffective because Djokovic effectively nullifies Nadal's lefty advantage with his great two-handed backhand, which he can crush either down-the-line or with sharp crosscourt angles. Thus, without his lefty advantage, Nadal is basically left without any weapons. He might as well play right-handed against Djokovic because the results would be the same.

And anyone who claims that if Nadal played right -handed he could just hit inside-out forehands to Federer's backhand and have the same results is wrong. That's because Nadal's inside-out forehand is much flatter than his cross-court forehand so that ball wouldn't bounce nearly as high to Federer's one-handed backhand. Federer would also have far fewer problems with Nadal's serves in the ad court. :)
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YES YOU ARE RIGHT. THAT IS WHY NADAL PLAYS LEFT AND BEAT FEDERER.
HE IS A SMART MAN. YOU KNOW IT IS NOT CHEATING

WHY DO NOT FEDERER PLAY LEFT OR DOUBLE HANDED BACK HAND TO BEAT NADAL?

DON'T YOU THINK IT IS A SMART MOVE TO ATTACK YOUR OPPONENT'S WEAKNESS? IT IS THE BEST WAY TO WIN AND NADAL HAS DONE IT A LOT OF TIMES SO HE IS A GREAT PLAYER.
 
SoBad said:
Thank you. Do you find your ass fetish tendencies soothing or empowering?
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You're welcome.

Son, you need to - ah said you need to unwind you'self :lol: The's too much anger pent up in that lil brain of youz. Don't go from euphemisms to plain rude, juts call it by name: Ralph is butt-picking.

Hey, and no crying, nobody's perfect.
 
veroniquem said:
Federer can spank 2011 Djokovic? :shock:
Not that often apparently given that he lost 4 matches out of 5 to him this year (most of them in masters and slams). If we're not talking about this year, then Nadal still has a leading head to head vs Djoko which Fed NEVER had against Rafa. Not for 1 day.
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This is really sad. Djokavic took all of Nadal's key titles from him this year except for the one that a white hot Federer prevented Djokovic taking from Nadal. You should be more thankful for Roger because if it hadn't been for him, Dokovic very likely would have taken much more from Rafa than just his Madrid, Wimbledon, and USO titles, but also Nadal's beloved Rolland Garros title. Anyone with an objective brain cell can see the truth in all this, but instead you prattle on, "But, but, but this head to head record is better than that one."
 
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If Nadal was born a woman Federer would be on 20+ slams by now. I blame Rafa's mother.
 
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Looks like "The Brightest Mind in Tennis" agrees with me.

I knew I had something in common with the brightest mind in tennis. ;-)


Inside Tennis: Conventional wisdom says that Roger is the best of all time, but he can’t beat the main rival of his generation. Big losing record to Rafa not just on clay but on other surfaces, except maybe indoors. The best player of all time can’t beat the best player of his era.

Larry Stefanki: It’s interesting. I think it has something to do with Rafa being a lefty. Roger feeds into his strength. Roger likes to extend on the forehand a lot. But with Rafa everything’s hooking into his body. He’s got to get away from it a lot more. He does not like hitting the backhand out and away from his body on serves. Consequently, he ends up hacking short. He beats most guys in big situations. He’s learned to bunt it short and it feeds into the righty’s backhand side and then into Roger’s strength on the forehand. When you play a lefty, into Nadal’s forehand, it flip flops. That’s Nadal’s best shot coming forward. He can drag it up the line or he can hook you back off the court and go back into your weakness, which is your backhand. Roger doesn’t seem to like to move in and take the ball off the rise with the backhand. You have to do that against lefties, especially off the return. Otherwise, Rafa’s so quick with his feet moving to his right, he’s going to dictate control with that little bunt slice return. He’s off to the races.


http://www.insidetennis.com/2011/07/larry-stefanki-brightest-mind-tennis/
 
drgchen said:
Nadal is a good player in his own right. But I believe that his wins against Federer are mostly because he is lefty. Slice serves go to the Federer backhand, Big loopy forehands go the the Federer backhand. It is next to impossible to put away a high topspin backhand shot if you have a one hander. Federer has one weakness and Nadal's strength (loopy topspin balls) plays right to the weakness.
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