either that winners are decided beforehand or just that the matches will go the distance?
Definitely. There is no reason for the players to be as wildly pumped as they are for an event where there is no rivalry.
Medvedev played rublev yesterday in st petersburg open.Is Laver Cup serious tennis? No. Is it fun to watch? Parts of it, definitely. It's nice to see many of the players involved in an event that isn't totally 'bite-your-nails' competition. Most of them act like big kids who have been serious about their sport their whole lives. Let them have some fun for a change with their peers.
Besides, what other tennis is there to watch this weekend?
Quite right. And Fritz was basically crying after his near-win over Tsitsi.I saw Shapo lose this morning. I don't for a moment think it was scripted. He was angry too.
I fully agree, and I'd also like to stress what you brought up, the social aspect of it. One of the reason older players are doing so well today - besides the "vitamins", the egg, better surgery, world-class trainers - is that they don't get lonely. Paradoxically another era in which players were doing very well at an older age was during the pro years before open tennis. At that time players did not get to see their families, but they also traveled together, ate together. They were a bit like a traveling troupe. They competed, but there was also a big social aspect. At the time many players were retiring early there was intense loneliness, a feeling of isolation. I think a guy like Borg might keep playing today for another decade. But he mostly only had his manager, and in those days players spent a lot of time alone in their hotel rooms. They did not travel with teams, with teams that contained contemporaries. It's very different for top players now.Quite right. And Fritz was basically crying after his near-win over Tsitsi.
1) I find it puzzling that many can't grasp that you CAN play seriously with no ATP points at stake. I mean, when I play card games with my family/friends, I play to win, even if there is no money involved. What's at stake there? In comparison, Laver Cup has much more on the line bc you're playing in front of a live 17,000+ audience and seen by millions on TV/Stream.
2) Does people realize that tennis players are people too? Instead of the player box having physios/coaches/trainers/families/friends, the Laver Cup's player box consists of past Legends, current greats, and current top players. But these people showing emotions is somehow fake or 'scripted', while physios'/coaches'/families'/friends' emotions are more 'real'? Okay...
3) Except for the WTF and DC (now ATP Cup too), normal tournaments are knockouts, so you go home if you lose. That puts so much tension on the players, and some of the joy of just playing tennis is gone. LC is different, where the players WANT to win, PLAY to win, but even if they lost, they still stick around and can cheer on their teammates. That lessens the tensions brought by the threat of 'lose, go home'. Suddenly, tennis is not so stressful anymore, and everyone can enjoy just 'playing tennis'. Dont' confuse 'playing tennis' with 'not care'. Afterall, I care and want the win when playing Yugioh against my relatives, with nothing at stake.
OP doesn’t seem to grasp that scripted = defrauding the ATP, ticket holders and millions of fans around the world. The thread should be titled “Do you think Fed and many other top players risk their careers by willingly engaging in fraud?”No. I think the emotion I saw from the players was real.
Guess we will find out soon enough, as if scripted, Raonic will win the second set, and Europe will win in a very tight 3rd set tiebreak.For anyone naive enough to think LC isn't scripted, please do explain how every single addition of the event goes down to the wire with a 'thrilling finish." In real life, Team Europe beats Team world easily.
Here's why I don't think it's scripted. It's simply not 'needed' to be:For anyone naive enough to think LC isn't scripted, please do explain how every single addition of the event goes down to the wire with a 'thrilling finish." In real life, Team Europe beats Team world easily.
To add, many don't realize that the Laver Cup's genius scoring system having a Super Tiebreak as set 3 gives EACH team a real chance to win. Had Laver Cup been Bo5, then Team World would have almost no chance to win. Bo5 will always favor the better tennis player bc it's hard to fluke 3 sets (hence it's why Big3 win so many slams). Take the 'best-of X sets' to the extreme and boil it down to one set, or one game, or one point, and what do we get? As the #s get smaller, the certainty of either side winning becomes more of a coin flip .