Do you believe the Laver Cup matches are scripted?

Do you believe (some of) the LC matches are scripted in any way?


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jimjam

Professional
Whether it's scripted or just pure luck...

... they've had some really amazing scorelines all 3 years and it has translated into making the Laver Cup feel like an exciting event that's here to stay.

It could have easily gone nowhere. It's actually quite hard to build excitement over an artificial event like this. All credit (and congratulations) to organisers / owners.
 

ollinger

G.O.A.T.
No, not fixed at all, but would be better if McEnroe were dropped and they got Captain Lou Albano. Is he dead? Can they get him anyway?
 

fed1

Semi-Pro
I don’t know, 3 years in a row down to the last match. Are they worried about Sunday ticket sales if the matches aren’t “live”. They were trying to like Ryder Cup, even in Ryder Cup you have some blowouts, these matches always seem to be close.
 
Apparently in exos it’s common for players to agree to split sets before getting serious in the third, especially if one player is much better than the other

Wouldn’t surprise me at all if that was happening here
That is more of a unspoken rule, don't think they actually discuss it. But that is not happening here especially now with h2h on the line.
 

Chadalina

Hall of Fame
I don’t know, 3 years in a row down to the last match. Are they worried about Sunday ticket sales if the matches aren’t “live”. They were trying to like Ryder Cup, even in Ryder Cup you have some blowouts, these matches always seem to be close.
Exactly, its like tennis fans have never watched wrestling
 

zipplock

Rookie
Exactly, its like tennis fans have never watched wrestling
You think that scripting a wrestling match (2 people in a ring) and a tennis match (2 people on a court PLUS swinging racquets PLUS a moving ball PLUS the net) are similarly easy to script? I've seen some of these fixed tennis matches and the tanking is pretty obvious, nothing like what I saw at LC.
 

Zara

Legend
I have yet to see one match. Not even sure what the format is. I'll be honest - I don't care for Laver all that much or anything to do with him.
 
No, that would be very difficult to ensure without obvious tanking. I think, at most, players may take some matches a little easier, not going all out as if it were a big match but not intentionally holding back either, as that would easily mess with concentration and result in a plethora of errors, hence obvious tanking.
 

PT280 Fan

Rookie
No not scripted exactly but more like "stacked" in Team Europe's favor. You gotta know going in that Fed and Nadal are getting the biggest slice of the appearance money. Nadal, Fed, Thiem, Tsitsipas, Zverev, Bautista Agut and Fognini are all in the top eleven in the world. Team World starts at #20 in the world with John Isner, Raonic at 24 and Kyrgios as 27. And all that when Danil Medvedev at #4 could have been on Team World for the right kind of appearance money, you know maybe like Fed and Nadal are getting.
 

dunlop_fort_knox

Professional
you can't script it. just look at how matches are decided. if it is scripted they should let J P Mcenroe in on it. because he was GUTTED after the loss.
 

icedevil0289

G.O.A.T.
I saw Shapo lose this morning. I don't for a moment think it was scripted. He was angry too.
lmao tbh shapo losing from a winning point is actually on point from him.

but honestly i can speak for fed since i'm a fan, he is a horrendous actor. the dude was tearing up talking about playing for his country and when he won against kyrgios and isner was so ****ing pumped up.

i do think people get confused as to why some players like fritz/sock do well when they suck the rest of the tour and i think people have to understand team competitions bring out somethign different, as roger said its indoors against big servers/fore hands etc.
 

icedevil0289

G.O.A.T.
Is Laver Cup serious tennis? No. Is it fun to watch? Parts of it, definitely. It's nice to see many of the players involved in an event that isn't totally 'bite-your-nails' competition. Most of them act like big kids who have been serious about their sport their whole lives. Let them have some fun for a change with their peers.

Besides, what other tennis is there to watch this weekend? :)
i just wish that people could have tennis be not so black and white. the leader behind this event is a traditionalist he himself is not going to want this event to change the face of tennis, but its legit a 3 day event, why cant people just have fun. im not saying there are no flaws but this event is fun, i know someone who has traveled for a lot of different tennis tournaments for many years and said that this has been hands down one of her favorite tournaments, that has to say something. people keep saying tennis is a sport and not entertainment, but why not both? are you telling me that they are playing with baseball bats out there? they are still playing tennis and fighting for every point, shoot i saw some amazing shot making from almost everyone. except maybe fabio.
 

icedevil0289

G.O.A.T.
I don’t know, 3 years in a row down to the last match. Are they worried about Sunday ticket sales if the matches aren’t “live”. They were trying to like Ryder Cup, even in Ryder Cup you have some blowouts, these matches always seem to be close.
the first year actually had some blow outs iirc before world turned around. i think the format works that even in the third day the other team can survive
 

icedevil0289

G.O.A.T.
Whether it's scripted or just pure luck...

... they've had some really amazing scorelines all 3 years and it has translated into making the Laver Cup feel like an exciting event that's here to stay.

It could have easily gone nowhere. It's actually quite hard to build excitement over an artificial event like this. All credit (and congratulations) to organisers / owners.
the people who were there said it was a really great event and **** some people who are fed fans actually found themselves rooting for team world and the opponents from time to time, when does that happen. im not saying there arent issues and who knows how long this will go and obviously i do gree that the payment structure if you want to look at it closely it should be, but also im going to be blunt, one better also have some strong words for the atp because guess who ruled the atp this year and padded their pockets further....atleast i saw a new side of tsitsipas and can tolerate him now and fabio was fun and i was able to like nadal for a whole 3 days. it also confirmed that oddly nick despite not having a coach is not a bad one himself and as a good tennis mind.
 

icedevil0289

G.O.A.T.
You think that scripting a wrestling match (2 people in a ring) and a tennis match (2 people on a court PLUS swinging racquets PLUS a moving ball PLUS the net) are similarly easy to script? I've seen some of these fixed tennis matches and the tanking is pretty obvious, nothing like what I saw at LC.
i'd like for people to argue how fed defeating isner last year when the ball barely sailed over the net allowing fed to pass isner was scripted? fed was lucky and everyone knew it, i mean it was also well played for him, but that could have easily clipped the net and fell back on his side
 

icedevil0289

G.O.A.T.
I have yet to see one match. Not even sure what the format is. I'll be honest - I don't care for Laver all that much or anything to do with him.
honestly i respect that tbh. i get that this is not to everyone's liking, what i find annoying is seeing people watch here and also on other places on social media watch it and then proceed to complain about it. why watch? if you dont like it, thats cool and you can invest in the other tennis going on
 

rainingaces

Legend
This made up for the Wimbledon final and us open quarter final defeats, as well as the inevitable Nadal goathood. Fed is a three time lc champ wooo wooo!
 

Enga

Hall of Fame
I think a lot of the accusations of scripted comes from the closeness of some of the matches, when on paper team Europe should win easily.

Lots of people play better in a team environment. Some people take the pressure and responsibility of team better than others. I think it really is different knowing you have the hopes of others on your shoulders, not just in the box but on the sidelines as well, receiving cheers and coaching. Tennis is different from most sports in that its usually very solitary, like chess, you get no help. You have to figure the puzzle yourself. In Laver Cup, you can get analysis from teammates. Tennis is hugely a mental game. A coach or a good tip can be the difference. And if you lose despite good coaching, that can be really emotional. It means you just werent good enough, couldnt execute the plan.

Also the Canadian and US players are a lot more experienced in doubles.

If I were to compare it, its like Davis Cup. Some players raise their game for it.
 
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darkhorse

Semi-Pro
Not scripted, there may be an unspoken understanding that they should put on a good show for the fans but I don't think anything is prearranged.
 

Bhagi Katbamna

Hall of Fame
I honestly thought that it was scripted because every match seemed to be going to 3 sets but then Nadal won in 2 sets. Also, these guys are extremely competitive(even in video games or cards or board games) and it's hard to turn the competitiveness off.
 

accidental

Hall of Fame
That is more of a unspoken rule, don't think they actually discuss it. But that is not happening here especially now with h2h on the line.
They do discuss it. James Blake said as much in his book

I think these players care a lot more about getting paid st this meaningless exo than their official atp H2H which is also ultimately meaningless for most of them
 
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