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G.O.A.T.
Then again clay has the least amount of upsets
Do you guys think Djokovic can still be a contender for RG?
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TheGhostOfAgassi
Talk Tennis Guru
If Rafa can reach a grass slam semi after 7 years.....
Of course Novak can get things going on clay again.
Of course Novak can get things going on clay again.
MichaelNadal
Bionic Poster
van_Loederen
Professional
he doesn't win against a fit Thiem, and as a distant 3rd fav he would need quite some luck.
i doubt that DJ will focus much on RG anymore, but he can still always make a SF.
i doubt that DJ will focus much on RG anymore, but he can still always make a SF.
HetTheGreaterer
Banned
There will not be any well established next generation in tennis, on any surface, till the day when all the big 3 hang their racquet or age wears them out
Corrected it
Federer lacked ground game in 30s??
Wow, that's the joke of the year
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Noleberic123
G.O.A.T.
LOL You do realise Djokovic has won slams before right? This isn't his first
weakera
Talk Tennis Guru
It's totally dependent on Rafa. If Rafa isn't playing or is somehow eliminated, yes he has a chance. Against Rafa in form? Virtually no chance. Look what Rafa did to Delpo in France compared to how close they played at Wimbledon a month later. Rafa on Philippe Chatrier is simply beyond what anyone else on tour can come close to right now.
Pheasant
Legend
Djoker’s chances of winning RG are quite slim right now. Nadal is dialed in and Thiem is the next best player on clay. Thiem would be a handful for Djoker right now on clay. I would give Djoker a 50% percent chance of beating Thiem and a 10% chance of beating Nadal. And guys like Stan, Delpo, or Cilic could catch him if they redlined as well. Schwartzman on a good day could catch Djoker on a mediocre day.
Djokovic_is_the_best#1
Bionic Poster
If he plays at Wimbledon 2018 level and back to before 2016 Wimbledon, he will be 2nd favourite after Nadal.
At his best, Novak is a beast on clay but obviously Rafas the king!
Novak needs to build momentum before then. It’s too early to judge. He needs to back this up by showing great form on the North American hard courts, plus indoor season and start 2019 well. If so, he’ll be in the equation
At his best, Novak is a beast on clay but obviously Rafas the king!
Novak needs to build momentum before then. It’s too early to judge. He needs to back this up by showing great form on the North American hard courts, plus indoor season and start 2019 well. If so, he’ll be in the equation
flanker2000fr
Hall of Fame
I can't see why not. He's one of the very best players in the world, and one of the best athletes too.
nolefam_2024
Bionic Poster
If Novak is playing well, Thiem would find it difficult to win 2 sets vs him. 3 almost impossible.
Thiem is the guy who gave us this year's French open finals, lets not go overboard with him.
Thiem is the guy who gave us this year's French open finals, lets not go overboard with him.
His ground so good, that's why he not even stepping on clay court for two years now.
Federer stopped being contender at FO in 2012. He was 30 years old then.
weakera
Talk Tennis Guru
Totally depends on the day for Thiem. He blew Rafa off the court in Madrid.
Nadal destroying Thiem doesn't mean Djokovic would be able to do the same. Also Thiem can still improve his game and become a bigger threat. (though I wouldn't bet on that)
nolefam_2024
Bionic Poster
Djokovic won't destroy Thiem but will convincingly beat him. The guy has no strategy it seems.
tennis_pro
Bionic Poster
Nadal will be 33 years old come the 2019 FO. Yes.
HetTheGreaterer
Banned
36-37 year old is playing tennis at top levels and this is the most important....
How can you imagine the grandpa of tennis to grind out himself on the most physically demanding surface???
He made 2 QFs at RG after 2012 too...
Let me remind you, he played clay even in his worst year (2016). Dont expect more
Let us see that 35/36/37 year old djok/nadal will even be on the tour or not
mike danny
Bionic Poster
I think Djoker will struggle on clay because it's his weakest surface. Grass is easily his second best surface. You don't even need to look at the number of titles to conclude that. His serve+return combo works much better on grass than on clay. His serve on clay isn't as effective as on grass.
mike danny
Bionic Poster
In his prime I always had the impression that he is better on clay than on grass. Now it changed, maybe grass will be his best surface, who knows.
mike danny
Bionic Poster
Even in his prime I felt he was deadlier on grass. At his very peak he lost to Stan in the RG final. I don't see that happening at Wimb.
Steve0904
Talk Tennis Guru
Yes. It will be interesting to see what happens until RG next year, but I suspect Novak will be a solid 2nd favourite there in 2019. If he plays as well as expected, he's way better than Thiem, and after that he'll battle it out with Nadal. He'll probably lose, but he's definitely a contender.
maratha_warrior
Hall of Fame
I think Djoker should stop killing himself on Clay and rather focus on Hard court Slams and Grass for next 3-4 years..
Let Nadal have 15 Roland Garros instead try to peak on other 3 slams where he is clearly better than Nadal ( even USO in terms of consistency )...
Let Nadal have 15 Roland Garros instead try to peak on other 3 slams where he is clearly better than Nadal ( even USO in terms of consistency )...
At his peak he also lost to Wawrinka in AO, his best slam. Does it mean he is weak there too? And in his prime in Wimbledon he lost a final to Murray in straight sets. If anything, Murray has less weapons to hurt him than Wawrinka does.
roger presley
Hall of Fame
Nole is back and I think Rafa will stay at 11 RG. Only if Nole gets injured ,Rafa can make it to 12.
True Fanerer
G.O.A.T.
Yeah and once he got the career slam he went into the dark ages.
Noleberic123
G.O.A.T.
You expected him to go through a whole career without a crisis?
True Fanerer
G.O.A.T.
Of course not. All I said was let's see how he handles it. It's been a long time. I'm of the few that thought he would be successful again. Ask anybody since apparently you were in hiding until he won something.
Noleberic123
G.O.A.T.
Actually I wasn't hiding. I took a lot of breaks even when he was dominating. I just have periods when I can't be bothered posting. This time it was different though I had personal problems to deal with from december of last year. Didn't really recover till like March.
mike danny
Bionic Poster
I hope you're doing ok now
True Fanerer
G.O.A.T.
That's understandable. Everyone goes through hard times. Glad it worked out for you.
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