Do you push weave or pull weave?
- Thread starter Irvin
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when i started out i push weaves. it's what most people did on youtube when i was learning, but i found it difficult to really grip the string with my fingers, especially when getting closer to the throat. I've moved over to the pull technique that AM stringing does, and i find it quicker because it's more consistant and i can pull weaves closer to the throat.
long story short, pushing is easier the first half of the racquet crosses, but gets much more difficult. Easier to pull weaves through out the racquet crosses and keep it consistent and keep your rhythm going.
long story short, pushing is easier the first half of the racquet crosses, but gets much more difficult. Easier to pull weaves through out the racquet crosses and keep it consistent and keep your rhythm going.
Purestriker
Legend
Both!
dak95_00
Hall of Fame
Yes. I do all four.
I prefer to push but sometimes it’s a challenge with tight patterns and stiff strings.
I often pull because it’s also easy but definitely not as fast as pushing easy, soft strings in open patterns.
I think I know what “needle and thread” means and I do that in tight spaces as I get close to the throat; especially, with stiff strings.
I’ve been stringing for about 15 years now. I started off with the first 2 hour job. Then got good enough to average 45 minutes. Now I can easily go under 30 minutes. Speed is never a concern because I just don’t care to do more than 6 racquets in a day. No matter what anyone says, there’s not a lot of money to be made in this gig nor are there that many players who genuinely care greatly here in Ohio where I reside. It’s a fun hobby and I believe I’m definitely a competent and skilled stringer who gives consistent results time and time again.
I prefer to push but sometimes it’s a challenge with tight patterns and stiff strings.
I often pull because it’s also easy but definitely not as fast as pushing easy, soft strings in open patterns.
I think I know what “needle and thread” means and I do that in tight spaces as I get close to the throat; especially, with stiff strings.
I’ve been stringing for about 15 years now. I started off with the first 2 hour job. Then got good enough to average 45 minutes. Now I can easily go under 30 minutes. Speed is never a concern because I just don’t care to do more than 6 racquets in a day. No matter what anyone says, there’s not a lot of money to be made in this gig nor are there that many players who genuinely care greatly here in Ohio where I reside. It’s a fun hobby and I believe I’m definitely a competent and skilled stringer who gives consistent results time and time again.
Dunlop300g
Semi-Pro
Push-Me Pull-You! I like the pull method. I find the string seems to slip out of my fingers less with the pull method, so I need to practice the push method more. It's probably ideal to be able to do both consistently. At the bottom I'm usually doing the stitch or weave method explained by @AM Stringing . Also love to watch @AM Stringing when Albert does the pull method because it's poetry in motion, so smooth.
Started with push. Switched to pull; I seem to have to fight the string less. Like others, I stitch the bottom couple strings. Also, shoutout to @AM Stringing .... incredible to watch him weave.
Katzenjammer
Rookie
I'm a novice stringer; I loop pull. Seems by far easier to me. And then when I get to the last few, sometimes I have to be innovative and sort of "needle and thread it." 
shug
Rookie
I started loop pulling in the beginning, and never changed. It takes longer...
Katzenjammer
Rookie
When I watch people who are really good at it -- amstringer/albert, for example -- seems much faster. I am slow at it. For now!
Irvin
Talk Tennis Guru
Many stringers claim the pull a loop and I think that gives the impression that those who can’t pick up the pull weave is because they believe they need to pull the loop.I'm a novice stringer; I loop pull. Seems by far easier to me. And then when I get to the last few, sometimes I have to be innovative and sort of "needle and thread it."
If you pull a loop you will have to pull 2 strings through the mains which will have twice the friction, making 2 times as hard to pull. Most of the videos I’ve seen the stringer only pull the end of the string, actually rolling the loop toward the last tensioned string. This method bring the end of the string between the mains at a greater angle making it easier to pull the strings trough.
Katzenjammer
Rookie
Exactly right Irvin!
Actually, as I have worked it out, u don't have to "pull" at all. You create a loop and the center of that loop is where you start and you simply weave diagonally - but the loop tail is already there so no need to "pull" the string through the mains while you're weaving; until you get to the center mains and near the tail end of the loop: then you pull another bit of string through to create another loop, and do it again to the frame.
It's hard to describe in words haha.
Katzenjammer
Rookie
Radicalized
Professional
Pull. I think it works better in the tighter areas with the mounting on my basic machine. I've found it funny in the past when newer stringers "discover" they can pull when all along they've had problems mastering the push method. That being said, I've never mastered the push method like a pro like Drakulie. I'm just not that smooth.
shug
Rookie
not really, I pull the lose end through the mains not the end exiting the inside grommet. Once I exit the outbound grommet with the lose string end, I pull the rest of the string through.
Irvin
Talk Tennis Guru
Then you’re not pulling a loop only the end of the string.
anarosevoli
Semi-Pro
I always push with loop, both hands above the racquet, very convenient and quite fast.
Irvin
Talk Tennis Guru
I’m curious how you weave with both hands above the racket. Can you make a short video, please?
Both.
This also happens to require less spinning of the turntable/racquet - which aids in efficiency.
There are a number of variables (string material, string gauge, hoop size, density of pattern, potential hard/soft weaves, "pin-hole" grommets etc. etc.) that all contribute to just how much "resistance" one will/won't experience whilst weaving.
Utilizing various methods allows one to find the "path of least resistance" for a wide variety of situations.
After all, if you have only a screwdriver in your toolbox, it's going to make it hard(er) to deal with the variety of things you will be fixing.
This also happens to require less spinning of the turntable/racquet - which aids in efficiency.
There are a number of variables (string material, string gauge, hoop size, density of pattern, potential hard/soft weaves, "pin-hole" grommets etc. etc.) that all contribute to just how much "resistance" one will/won't experience whilst weaving.
Utilizing various methods allows one to find the "path of least resistance" for a wide variety of situations.
After all, if you have only a screwdriver in your toolbox, it's going to make it hard(er) to deal with the variety of things you will be fixing.
anarosevoli
Semi-Pro
Video can take some time, but it's like this: I hold the slack end with left hand, the loop with right hand. I push the loop under the string with right thumb and take it from under the string with right middle and ring finger. I support this by pushing with the slack end in left hand a little (which is easy with stiff poly and harder with multi: with most polys I can weave in one step, with multi I re-grip the slack end in the middle of the racquet to be able to support weaving by pushing it).
ryushen21
Legend
I jumped on here because I didn't want to start a new thread. I typically push weave as much as possible.
I also discovered this week that apparently syn gut is the fastest string. I usually average 22-25 minutes per frame with full poly. But I knocked out two frames with full syn gut in 14 minutes and 16 minutes respectively. The weaving was so much faster.
I also discovered this week that apparently syn gut is the fastest string. I usually average 22-25 minutes per frame with full poly. But I knocked out two frames with full syn gut in 14 minutes and 16 minutes respectively. The weaving was so much faster.
Shroud
Talk Tennis Guru
Irvin
Talk Tennis Guru
I made that video for you a long time ago because you had issues weaving poly through Kevlar mains.
EDIT: That was 7 years ago are you just seeing it now for the first time?
Shroud
Talk Tennis Guru
pretty sure I saw it but I did have brain surgery a year ago so some things are kind of foggy.
Amazed that I could remember to string when I got out of rehab.When I watched the video today it was great to know kev/poly is hard.
I have been using 4g and have to say that is probably the toughest poly to use with kevlar because its the stiffest. This week I plan to do full kevlar but skip every other cross so that should be easier to weave like it was when I did the kev/poly skipping every other cross.But I am just a home stringer so its probably best to ignore me...
Irvin
Talk Tennis Guru
That’s the only place I’ve ever strung except when I helped a few friends a few times.
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