Do you think 1 extra day recovery matters for the big 3?

Sysyphus

Talk Tennis Guru
Don't think the stats indicate a big effect.

Pretty random whether the guy with one or two days rest wins, historically, if memory serves.

This was talked about ahead of the 2017 final, and it was pointed out the guy with less rest had won more often.
 

junior74

G.O.A.T.
Don't think the stats indicate a big effect.

Pretty random whether the guy with one or two days rest wins, historically, if memory serves.

This was talked about ahead of the 2017 final, and it was pointed out the guy with less rest had won more often.
Old guys brings their A-game. Is tennis the new boule?
 

Born_to_slice

Hall of Fame
I don't "think" it. I know it.

The AO is the ONLY Slam that gives an extra day to rest to one of the finalists. About time to end with that unfair practice.
Let's just forget that last year it was Nadal who had an extra day rest and still got destroyed. Also, let's forget that he played Thiem in last year's RG who played 4 days in a row.
 

Lew II

Legend
It matters more the older you are
How can we forget 35yo Federer winning 3 five-setters in the second week of 2017 AO...

From 2014 UO to 2018 AO Federer won eigth 5th sets out of nine. His best score ever in five-setters.
 
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junior74

G.O.A.T.
How can we forget 35yo Federer winning 3 five-setters in the second week of 2017 AO...

From 2014 UO to 2018 AO Federer won eigth 5th sets out of nine. His best score ever in five-setters.
Must mean we get better the older we are, and it can under no circumstances have anything to do with the level on the tour.
 

kevaninho

Hall of Fame
It shouldn't matter. Speaking from Nadals perspective. He has been his own worst enemy over the years, rallying for hours in earlier rounds, against guys he should be out there putting away quick.
Admittedly he tries to do that now in slams, but theres no excuses. 1 or 2 days rest before a final doesn't matter, unless youre carrying an injury, or have been grinding 5 setters for 2 weeks.
The top players shouldn't be grinding anything against this field.
 

Sport

G.O.A.T.
Let's just forget that last year it was Nadal who had an extra day rest and still got destroyed. Also, let's forget that he played Thiem in last year's RG who played 4 days in a row.
Your comment does not invalidate the fact that it is an unfair practice of the AO.

Only because Rafa has benefited some years it doesn't follow that it was fair. All members of the Big 3 have sometimes benefited from the extra rest day at the AO final. And the RG example is irrelevant, because they already incorporated a roof and it will never be repeated again.

The AO is the ONLY Slam where one of the finalists can rest one extra day. They should change that unfair practice.
 

Sport

G.O.A.T.
hmmm.
Roland Garros 2019?
RG 2020 will incororate a roof so it will never happen again.

Currently, only the AO keeps the unfair practice of giving one of the finalists an extra day to rest. They should change that unfair practice.
 

Sport

G.O.A.T.
Both times Nadal had the extra day's rest before the slam final against Djokovic, he lost.
Irrelevant for the point. Djokovic won because he is the AO GOAT but it doesn't change the fact that it was an unfair practice. Federer also had an extra day to rest at the AO 2009 and AO 2017 final. It was unfair in all cases when it benefited Nadal and when it did not benefit him.

The AO is the ONLY Slam where one of the finalists has one extra day to rest. Time to change that unfair practice.
 

Hitman

Hall of Fame
Irrelevant for the point. Djokovic won because he is the AO GOAT but it doesn't change the fact that it was an unfair practice. Federer also had an extra day to rest at the AO 2009 and AO 2017 final. It was unfair in all cases when it benefited Nadal and when it did not benefit him.

The AO is the ONLY Slam where one of the finalists has one extra day to rest. Time to change that unfair practice.
Did you say this last year also?
 

blablavla

Hall of Fame
Why are you lumping Federer in with a guy 5 years younger and 6 years younger? It matters to them all, but for a 38 year old it’s far more important. Six years difference at that age is massive.
sure, he had 6 years more of training, so he will beat them easily.
 

FedIsBoat

Rookie
If it really is unfair, then it should be borne out in the results. Can someone tabulate the finalist who had the extra day of rest and how often they actually won it?
 

DSH

Legend
One thing is clear: The semifinals of a Grand Slam tournament should not be played on different days, in addition to being controversial it gives an additional physical advantage to the player who disputed this instance 24 hours before the other finalist.
This should be eradicated bluntly.
 

Big_Dangerous

Talk Tennis Guru
Yes, it was unfair last year as well.
Funny how you take so much offense to this practice of the AO giving one player an extra day's rest. It's like, how does this affect you? You're never going to be one of those players that has to play on one less day of rest, so why do you even care so much?
 

fedfan08

Professional
One thing is clear: The semifinals of a Grand Slam tournament should not be played on different days, in addition to being controversial it gives an additional physical advantage to the player who disputed this instance 24 hours before the other finalist.
This should be eradicated bluntly.
Well some round will have to be played on different days unless they all go the Wimbledon route and take the first Sunday off.
 

Born_to_slice

Hall of Fame
RG example is irrelevant, because they already incorporated a roof and it will never be repeated again.
Already incorporated a roof? Literally dead last to do so and it's only one court. If it rains heavily, it will still lead to scheduling mishaps.

RG incompetence is obviously irrelevant for you because Nadal consistently wins it, while at the best organized slam he has 1 title, even though he himself had advantage of extra day rest a couple of times.
 

beard

Hall of Fame
Yes, it matters, sometimes more, sometimes less... Depending to scheduling and duration of particular sf's. Good thing is that ao dont have schedueling problems in later stages thanks to roofs...
I don't "think" it. I know it.

The AO is the ONLY Slam that gives an extra day to rest to one of the finalists. About time to end with that unfair practice.
Ao is maybe best in scheduling, rarely some player suffer of playing day after day, at least I remember as that.
Wimbledon is ok after roofs installed, earlier it was pain in ass... Uso similar...
And we get to most unfair tournament, rg, slam stucked in 19th century... When I remember 19 edition :sick:... They practically didn't gave chance Thiem (or Novak), winner was known in Friday... And it wasn't the first time...
 
Both times Nadal had the extra day's rest before the slam final against Djokovic, he lost.
Irrelevant. Just because Rafa lost, it doesn't mean he still didn't benefit. Without that extra day of rest, maybe he would've gotten dominated even more?
 

Hitman

Hall of Fame
Irrelevant. Just because Rafa lost, it doesn't mean he still didn't benefit. Without that extra day of rest, maybe he would've gotten dominated even more?
Or how about as some commentators were saying during the match, that having the extra day off messed up his timing with the ball. Since it is longer than the normal time between grand slam play?
 
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