Does adding weight in handle add power?

brtennis

Rookie
Yes, but not a whole lot unless you add a whole bunch. Adding weight in handle changes little or no swing weight but increases static weight of the racquet. Upon impact with ball, higher static weight racquet will yield less, thus more power. This is assuming the racquet swings at the same speed.
 
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UCSF2012

Hall of Fame
It does add power. The center of mass drops lower, but it does hit harder. I have 6 RF's in my bag. Two have silicone in the handle. Everything else same. Serves harder for sure.
 

movdqa

Talk Tennis Guru
It does add power. The center of mass drops lower, but it does hit harder. I have 6 RF's in my bag. Two have silicone in the handle. Everything else same. Serves harder for sure.
You can hit harder serves because you have to accelerate more mass (different with groundstrokes and volleys) but you also have a higher injury risk.
 

tennis347

Hall of Fame
IMO depending on how much weight you add to the butt of the handle it tends to lower the sweet spot and deaden the feel of the racquet. It does add some stability.
 

blai212

Hall of Fame
It actually makes the racket more unstable and less powerful..
incorrect. It actually adds more power and allows the racquet to feel more stable but that’s only if you can handle the weight, otherwise an overweighted racquet could feel unstable and less powerful if you cant produce adequate racquet head speed and/or maintain good technique with proper follow through


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1HBHfanatic

Legend
-i agree with @movdqa and @morten
-more mass in the HANDLE (the OPs question), "does not give more power"!!
-it allows you to swing faster!, because the HEAD seems "lighter", but that does not mean more crushing power
-more weight in the head of the racquet = more power

-think of a simple hammer with a wood handle; it matters to the nail if you hit it by grabbing the simple-hammer by the handle or the head of the hammer!!
 

markwillplay

Hall of Fame
Then it’s wrong. Adding weight to the handle does not mean less mass in the head. If anything it can help someone swing a little faster because of the way the balance feels. Incentive to swing away.
 

Sweets3450

New User
If I'm blocking a return or blocking with a short back-swing in general (volleys, short hops, etc) my racket which has been built up with shrink sleeves and overgrips by 1oz in the handle is noticeably better in this regard compared to the others
 

Shroud

G.O.A.T.
If I'm blocking a return or blocking with a short back-swing in general (volleys, short hops, etc) my racket which has been built up with shrink sleeves and overgrips by 1oz in the handle is noticeably better in this regard compared to the others
are the others the same grip size?
 

morten

Hall of Fame
It all depends and is relative.. if the racket is more headheavy and/or has a high swingweight adding some weight to the handle is ok, it may also make it more stable etc(to a certain point) but if a racket is headlight and/or has low swingweight the racket will play very strange and more unstable. It is all related to eachother. There is no "right" answer. All i can say is adding lead 7 inch from the buttcap works great on most rackets if you want more plow and slightly more headlight feel. Adding under the buttcap hardly ever worked for me. And i tried it on about 30 different frames. IN the handle could be better.
 

PMChambers

Hall of Fame
Mass in handle will give more power, but not much more.
SW is not true representation of what's happening, your not pivoting racquet at 6"from the end. The entire racquet is moving in an arc but the head is accelerating faster.

The modern ATP has a lot more head speed compared to CG of racquet. But not many rec player use modern ATP forehand most use a 90 ATP or WTA type.

End of day adding mass adds plow but the mass will tend to rotate around the CG and the body is Appling force at the handle as well.
 

movdqa

Talk Tennis Guru
If I'm blocking a return or blocking with a short back-swing in general (volleys, short hops, etc) my racket which has been built up with shrink sleeves and overgrips by 1oz in the handle is noticeably better in this regard compared to the others
That's stability, though, not power.

I once added a couple of ounces to the handle and no change in power. I added lead in the hoop which increased power. The racquet was over 17 ounces.
 

movdqa

Talk Tennis Guru
17 ounce racquet. Injected silicone, then drove nails into the silicone. I might have added lead tape around the handle too. You could hit the ball anywhere on the strings or frame and there would be no shock or vibration.

 

Alexh22

Professional
17 ounce racquet. Injected silicone, then drove nails into the silicone. I might have added lead tape around the handle too. You could hit the ball anywhere on the strings or frame and there would be no shock or vibration.

I cannot believe I have done exactly the Same.
 

Sweets3450

New User
Yes Shroud, more or less they're about the same size now.

I've been reading these forums for a while and there is quite a lot of misinformation. Adding weight to a racket will allow you put speed on the ball faster in different types of hits. Adding 2 grams at the tip of the racket will help more with a ground stroke and ~10 grams somewhere in the handle or butt cap will help you return the ball faster with a short backswing. Call it "stability" or whatever you'd like, those are subjective terms which people interpret to mean different things. I'm no expert in racket customization, but when I have to return a partner's 120mph+ serve, I'm definitely going to grab the racket that's heavier in the handle so I can block it back, especially on the one handed backhand side.

Geez a 17oz racket? I hope your shoulder isn't complaining with that!
 

Shroud

G.O.A.T.
Yes Shroud, more or less they're about the same size now.

I've been reading these forums for a while and there is quite a lot of misinformation. Adding weight to a racket will allow you put speed on the ball faster in different types of hits. Adding 2 grams at the tip of the racket will help more with a ground stroke and ~10 grams somewhere in the handle or butt cap will help you return the ball faster with a short backswing. Call it "stability" or whatever you'd like, those are subjective terms which people interpret to mean different things. I'm no expert in racket customization, but when I have to return a partner's 120mph+ serve, I'm definitely going to grab the racket that's heavier in the handle so I can block it back, especially on the one handed backhand side.

Geez a 17oz racket? I hope your shoulder isn't complaining with that!
If they are not the same size you cant conclude that the difference is solely weight

Larger grip will help on those shots too.
 

GBplayer

Hall of Fame
If I'm blocking a return or blocking with a short back-swing in general (volleys, short hops, etc) my racket which has been built up with shrink sleeves and overgrips by 1oz in the handle is noticeably better in this regard compared to the others
Higher recoil weight.
 

movdqa

Talk Tennis Guru
Yes Shroud, more or less they're about the same size now.

I've been reading these forums for a while and there is quite a lot of misinformation. Adding weight to a racket will allow you put speed on the ball faster in different types of hits. Adding 2 grams at the tip of the racket will help more with a ground stroke and ~10 grams somewhere in the handle or butt cap will help you return the ball faster with a short backswing. Call it "stability" or whatever you'd like, those are subjective terms which people interpret to mean different things. I'm no expert in racket customization, but when I have to return a partner's 120mph+ serve, I'm definitely going to grab the racket that's heavier in the handle so I can block it back, especially on the one handed backhand side.

Geez a 17oz racket? I hope your shoulder isn't complaining with that!
Only issue is the serve. It's hard to bring up all of that weight over your head.

My current racquets are only 13.25 ounces, 386 swingweight. 15 grams of lead at the tip. Shroud-type stuff.
 

Irvin

Talk Tennis Guru
Does adding weight in handle add power or is it mainly to counter the head weight for better maneuverability?
Under a given force (gravity) adding weight to the handle will speed up the racket. Fairly simple to prove. Pick the weight you want to add and determine the change in balance and RW. Then using the formula T = 2Pi * SQRT(I/mgL) you will see the period for the racket is faster (shorter period) and if the racket speeds up with more weight you will have more power.
 

teachingprotx

Hall of Fame
Weight in handle makes it more head light . So makes it more whippy!
So one could argue that yes as it may let you swing faster giving you more power .
Conversely ,
Adding weight to the handle may bring
More control as their is less weight distributes in the head making it lighter / less mass going into the ball..
Hmmmmmmm it’s a real mind scramble ..
it’s like the age old ???????
Looser strings give you more power ?
tight string tension gives more control ?
kinda ..
 

LOBALOT

Hall of Fame
It looks like we need a good Mechanical Engineer (ME) to describe the relationship between Torque and Power and how that translates into a human being and our ability to utilize our strength to whip an object through space given varying the position of a given weight.

I did not do well in this particular area in school so will continue to watch where this thread heads... It is an interesting topic!
 

LOBALOT

Hall of Fame
If you have any sources to prove that, then I'm really interested!
I am not expert but I think he was saying is if I have a racquet like this ------0-0------
with the 0's being weight and I move the weights to the end like this -0------------0-
The second is more polarized (meaning weight on the ends of the racquet).

Similarly if I have one weight like this it is less polarized ------0------ than if I move the weight to the handle like this -0----------- or the head like this ----------0-
 
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Anthony Kirk

New User
To answer the OP, adding weight to the handle I would say increases maneuverability but it all depends on the racquet specs. If it does add power, its very little. Power in a racquet generally comes from weight on the hoop, stiffness on the hoop, string type/tensions, and perhaps the most important is technique. I've found that after playing with lower powered racquets for 4-5 years, that if I hop to a more powerful frame the feel and touch shots are not nearly as good as they were. The flip side of power is, if your older and arent able to make the power yourself you will need a more powerful(free power) frame.
 

ericg

Rookie
What type of change in the racket will a leather grip create as there is a significant weight change in the handle area also
 

topspn

Legend
Force= mass x acceleration

Any added mass will provide more force provided you can get the same acceleration. Granted where you add the mass could influence little vs a lot and once again if you can provide same acceleration
 

morten

Hall of Fame
What type of change in the racket will a leather grip create as there is a significant weight change in the handle area also
Quite a bit. About 10 grams more weight in the handle area. I always do it. Sometimes i have to put some more weight at the tip of the racket to counter. But i like heavy and headlight
 

Simplicius

Semi-Pro
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If you have any sources to prove that, then I'm really interested!
I want to apologize for that post above...
I wrote a quick reply without the appropriate double check...
I check it now with the tool ( thank God it's Friday! ) and an actual example and the "polarization index" goes up.
Not much, but up....

eg for the sample "Head MicroGEL Radical MP" racquet:

Starting point:

Mass = 312 g
Balance = 34,29 cm
Swingweight = 315

MGR/I = 21,201
Recoilweight = 129,148
Polarization index = 0,409

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After, addition of 20 g in the butt cap:

Mass = 332 g
Balance = 32,01 cm
Swingweight = 316.6

MGR/I = 21,010
Recoilweight = 155,765
Polarization index = 0,469

Sorry again! My fault...
:sick:
 

polksio

Semi-Pro
it's cool man. the cutoff point is around 27cm balance, if a racket is anything above that, additional weight in the buttcap increases polarization. Coincidentally, that's also where more weight increase MGRI the most
 
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